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You can get some pretty awesome vegetarian products from the supermarket these days that go really good in sandwiches and such. I use soyco tofu I get from Woolworth in all my sandwiches, it comes in perfect slices and the one I get is marinated in a peanut satay sauce, tastes absolutely lush!

Yeah, well just to be clear I don’t think all meat is unhealthy. In fact I think some meat (like some oily fish and lean wild game) would probably be very healthy. But imo most of the domesticated meat people eat these days that’s drenched in hormones and all the rest is probably not very good for us at all and is probably (imho) a major factor in the obesity epidemic within our society. Ok, now you really have lost me! If meat isn’t a really efficient source of energy (and there for fat if you eat more than you expend) then why did our ancestors spend all that time expending thousands of calories running around in the hot sun to hunt meat down? If “meat doesn’t do that” as you have so arrogantly claimed then wouldn’t they have been better of just calmly digging for tubers high in carbohydrates? I’ve read the same theory multiple times, in articles about dieting or on body building forums and such, they all say if your going to eat a big meal do it within an hour because there’s only so much energy your body can convert at anyone time. There is no point giving a link because it’s not taken from any scientific journal, it’s just an opinion from people who like to stay lean and to be completely honest with you dude, it’s just common fricking sense! I really am going to go out here and suggest maybe it’s is you who lacks the understanding of how food is digested. Fact is, I eat like a pig quite regularly and still have a BMI of 21.4, so that’s my evidence! If your claim had any basis in reality then there wouldn’t be those people who can eat whatever they want without getting fat, since your claiming everything that gets eaten must become energy and then fat if the energy is not used. That’s just one example, hardly scientific. I still stand by my claim that most people would become sick from an all meat diet for a long period of time, without the aid of added vitamins. The few kilos of weight loss btw would have obviously been expected from loss of water retention from not eating carbs. I'm not totally against no carb diets anyway, I get on them occasionally when I want to quickly loss that water retention and look cut. Do it for longer than two weeks though and I barely have enough energy to move, so I refuse to believe it's healthy in the long term.

Yeah, who could blame ya, your only human I suppose. Everybody loves the white trash blondes.

Anyway, the Inuits ate wild game that was very high in omega 3. Also, humans in general have evolved on lean wild game with very little saturated fat, which is completely different to the majority of domesticated meat most people eat these days. Besides, I think we might be getting a little carried away here, since I don’t think I ever claimed meat was evil and inherently unhealthy. Just that it was a luxury and in no way vital for a healthy diet. Plus I personally believe in a first world diet of abundant carbs, sugars and fats that meat is a major contributor in making as overweight. Sure meat was a super food in the past when we had to pack on the fat quickly during good times to see us though the lean times, but now we don’t have that problem I personally think meat might be doing more bad than good. Lol, why should the burden of proof be on me? I clearly stated it was just a theory of mine, whereas you claimed it as fundamentally and factually wrong. I think the burden of proof should be on you, since you’re the one making claims, I was just merely putting a theory across of which I have heard before.

Well, the actual period food takes to digest is kind of irrelevant, since it’s obviously going to be different for everybody due to many different factors, but my point was that meat usually takes a lot longer to digest than non-meat products. They have adapted to it over many generations, if most of us tried to do it we would make ourselves sick from a nutritional deficiency and probably would end up dying from severe constipation. Besides, I’m sure they survive just fine, but at the same time I don’t think the Inuits are famous for living amazingly healthy and long lived lives. Just because something might not kill ya doesn't automatically make it healthy. I disagree, the body is amazingly efficient at turning food into usable energy, but even the human body has it's limits. I personally believe (and have read) there’s only so much it can convert at any one time.

Do you have a reliable source to back that up? Because every source from a google search says it does and some claim meat takes even far longer. Yeah the human gut is one tough organ and can digest almost anything into usable energy, it’s probably one of the things that made us the most successful species. But apart from that are you trying to make some kind of other point? Humans evolved to be capable of many different things to help us survive in the wild that are not in any way healthy and will lead to ill health and injuries in later life. Yes mate that was kind of my whole point. Maybe you just need to slowly read what you yourself wrote, then consider the fact that there is only so much energy your body can absorb at any one time. Is it starting to make sense now?

Put people on any kind of diet and they’ll lose weight every time, if by diet you mean eating fewer calories than you are expending. There’s a lot of outright BS propaganda with the no carb diets you’re talking about (which obviously doesn’t have to be done with just meat). Firstly it is essentially just like any other diet, you will only achieve real fat lose (rather than just losing some water retention, which is only temporary) if you are eating less calories than you are expending, anyone who claims you will lose weight in the long term by eating as much calories as you want just by not consuming carbs is full of shit! Also you seem to have associated not eating meat with not consuming protein and fat, which is a total misconception, there are many other sources of food, which contain protein and fat. Anyway, I have personally come to the conclusion that meat is a major contributor to putting on excess fat, mostly because weight started becoming a huge issue for me once I hit 25, but since I stopped eating meat it just hasn’t been an issue. As a meat eater I used to have to try and control food intake to get rid of flabs of fat I was carrying. Now though, as a non-meat eater I only have to control my food intake so I can get my abs showing. My theory is it’s because there’s only so much energy your body can use at any one time and non-meat food is digested within an hour or 2, where as meat is still digesting up to 8 hours later. So for example, if you stuffed yourself with 2 greasy vegetarian pizzas in one setting, your body simply wouldn’t be able to turn it all into energy in the few hours it takes to be digested and most of it would just go straight though ya as waste product. Where as if you stuffed yourself with 2 meat lovers pizzas, your body has over 8 hours to turn all those calories into energy and then obviously into fat unless your planing a marathon.

Well actually our bodies don't need a balance of meat at all. In fact it's far more healthier to go without meat, it takes ages for the body to digest it and imo is a major factor in the obesity epidemic within our society. There's simply nothing in meat that you can't easily get from other sources (except omega 3 from oily fish, but most westerners don't eat fish regularly, so that's mostly irrelevant) and with all the hormones and stuff that go into producing meat, I very much doubt theirs anything good about it.

Why should the ability to see the truth be such a negative thing? By truth I mean to have the intelligence and enough cognitive thought to realise that existence is essentially meaningless. Who needs the hassle of spending your whole life being terrified that some vindictive and jealous higher entity is going to send ya to a place to suffer for eternity if you put one step wrong? Who wants the burden of constantly worrying about how people perceive you, or always trying to live up to some perceived expectation of what you and others think you should be? Why would you want to be one of those idiots who give themselves a bad heart and high cholesterol by always panicking about the damage done to earth by us humans? Or why bother inducing premature aging and causing yourself go bald by always being afraid of global warming or some other apocalypse, as if your day ain’t coming either way? Shit, if are person could even be so lucky as to be able to witness the end of the world in the period that they inhabit the earth! As far as I’m concerned, we are all just star waste, energy being exhausted and in 80 years time me and anyone else reading this will just be fertilizer anyway. So why not quit worrying about it and just sit back and enjoy the ride while it lasts? Oh no!!!!! Completely slaughted. I’m just tooooooo embarrassed to even be able to express it in words. I guess this where I get all self conscious about my own intellect and grammar and quickly edit my signature? Yeah, I’ll get right on to that mate. lol, is that honestly your best effort?

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"Fuck it, maybe I'm a bum, But I was put on this earth to make your baby mamma cum"

I’m a passionate cannabis activist, so it does really get to me when I here stories about people having there kids taken off them for such a trivial reason as being known cannabis users. But at the same time there’s plenty of parents out there who smoke weed and don’t have there kids removed because they realise that (right or wrong) cannabis is illegal and there for manage to keep there shit on the down low. So I think in reality you really have to ask yourself, if parents are smoking weed so openly that some dog who would ring human services on them knows about it, then maybe they need to reassess if they are actually bringing there kids up in a healthy environment. Gillard had the right friends and Rudd had the wrong enemies, pretty simple really. I don’t personally agree with what happened there because it went against the whole democratic process and simply should not of been allowed to happen. But just because I think the process of government isn’t perfect, doesn’t mean I want to go back and live on the plains of Africa with no technology getting chased around by lions and shit. We need a centralised power so us humans can progress to a higher existence. I don’t really give a shit what they say I can and can’t do, because I’ll do whatever I want to do anyway and except the consequences as they come, since I already indulge in the perks of a centralised power, just like everyone here. Personally, I’m all for a one world government where everyone is working towards one goal of human advancement. Not like the United States of America where there’s a single leader though, but more like the European Union. Just imagine what humans would be capable of if we banned religion and extremist spiritual beliefs and started concentrating on what makes us similar and worked together as one, rather than running around concentrating on what makes us different just looking after our own stupid needs. We’d already be inhabiting the moon and mars and travelling to other star systems and shit. Just imagine if we were using our resources to have more control over our own existence, instead of using all your resources to fight and protect yourselves from each other. We’d already have technology to allow us to live forever and would be able to use the sun and other energy sources to sustain ourselves and have all the resources that we would ever need.

If anyone’s interested in inducing the most extremely vivid lucid dreams of your life, then I have a really effective method. Abstain from cannabis for at least a few days (I think at least a week or 2 would be best, but probably not feasible for some people). If you don’t smoke or don’t smoke daily then this part probably isn’t that important, you still might find just doing the next 2 steps effective. Put on two 21mg nicotine patches (keep in mind they take 24 to 48 hours to start to work). Take at least 10mg of Melatonin before bed on the night you have followed first 2 steps. Seriously, crazy, like I mean really crazy dreams. It puts you into the kind of dream state where you can get up in the middle of the night to go to the toilet or whatever, then go back to bed and start dreaming about the same dream right where you left off. I actually don’t where nicotine patches at night now, simply so I can feel like I actually slept and didn’t spend the night having all these crazy adventures. You really do want to be careful with the nicotine patches though, especially if you don’t smoke, first time I discovered the dreaming power of the combination I describe above I had a nicotine overdose! It was like over 2 years ago now, I was living outbush, I hadn’t had weed for months had been wearing 4 21mg nicotine patches for about 4 days and had just acquired some melatonin to help me sleep. Anyway, I woke up in the middle of the night feeling like such crap that I almost wanted to be put out of my misery (you know like when you have a really bad case of flu or food poisoning). The thing was though, I was completely paralysed and still in the middle of this whacked out dream, yet completely conscious at the same time as well, it was kind of like being in the midst of some potent LSD visual, like when it seems there’s a movie playing right behind your eyelids. (lol, just for my own personal benefit really) In the dream I was back at the old unit I used to live in with my ex girlfriend, the furniture and everything was all back to how it used to be, which was weird since it had been years since we lived there (I knew it was a dream because I was obviously conscious, but at the same time thought it was real, kinda hard to explain). Anyway, I walked into the bedroom and the walls were lined with fish tanks filled with thousands of different fish, which got me extremely distressed, because I’m flipping out thinking “how have these fish survived all these years not being feed? Fair enough that she (my ex) pissed off to go live a new life, but how could she just leave all these fish to starve? That’s just wrong!”. Then I see on the bed all these mobile phones, so I start going though them to ring her up and tell her to come do something about these stupid fish that are going to starve. The problem is though, all these mobile phones fall apart every time I pick one up and so I start panicking, because these fish are starting to die in front of me and I have no food for them, there’s simply just nothing I can do to help them. But I’m thinking if I can just put one of these mobile phones together again then I can ring my ex and she can bring food for these damn fish, like why else would she put all these fish here if she couldn’t feed them? After a while all these different people that I grew up with are one by one standing outside the bedroom window telling me that there’s an awesome party happening outside and that there’s nothing I can do for these fish anyway, so I might as well just come outside and have fun, but I just can’t do it and am stressing out hard to no end trying to put these mobile phones back together, thinking it’s the only way I’ll ever save these fish. Till eventually all these phones that are in pieces layed out over the bed, just crumble into dust and I have nothing else to do but just say “Fuck it” and just go outside where this parties happening, though I still feel mega guilty about these fish dying, even tough I keep telling myself it wasn’t even me who left them there and to just chill! So now I’m sitting outside just being miserable, well all these people are having the time of there lives around me, then out of nowhere a kombi van rocks up all painted out with bright colours and hippy type drawings and art all over it. Then all these people start jumping out, then from nowhere my ex girlfriend jumps out all dressed up like some stereotypical hippy (lol, she was a melbournite citygirl and in no way a hippy in real life, so it just blew my mind). She walked up to me without saying anything, just kissed me on the cheek and said, “your not done yet, you’ll work it out” then just turned around and hopped back in the van and all the other people got back in the van in the same order they got out and the van just drove off. Then the dream faded and I was no longer paralysed and could now move. Probably sounds dumb to most people, but I had pretty much given up on life at the time and that would have had to be the single most spiritual & meaningful thing that has ever happened to me. All it was in essence was a dose of melatonin and a nicotine overdose, lol. For the most part I think dreams are simply a whole heap of random thoughts and memories all jammed into one scenario. But at times I really think they can be your subconscious giving you a type of therapy session.

From watching lots of episodes of cops i guess. Hmmm, what on earth would be your point if one of my relatives was a women beater? lol, for all those random comments you've made about Americans being incapable of being deep, you are actually the one who's coming across as being completely shallow & petty, imo.. Ok, I know it's hard for some alcoholics to keep track of anything, but maybe you should go back and properly read what I say before you make a fool of yourself and claim things that haven't actually been said. What I claimed was when I 'used to' (pay attention here mutant, the 'used to' is emphasized just for you. I do realise english isn't your first language, but try to keep up) quit weed, I used to get symptoms that resembled what you would get from an addictive drug because I had convinced myself that it was addictive and that I was to weak to go without cannabis, this was in my teens & early twenties. But then in my mid to late twenties I came to the realisation that when I run out of weed I just had to accept it and move on, just put it out of my mind and think about something else. Once I learnt this simple mind exercise the withdrawal symptoms I described became non-existent. So I have now come to the obvious conclusion that cannabis is not actually physically addictive like cigarettes, but just psychologically habit forming, the withdrawal symptoms I used to get where actually just an immature mindset caused by myself not being able to accept life as it was. Yeah your very much right, it did used to serve me right to have suffered, because now I realise that it was just my own mindset just doing it to myself, rather than an any actual physical withdrawal symptom. I was putting myself though it because I selfishly wanted a smoke and wanted to convince myself and everyone around me that I couldn't go without it. I haven't told any contradicting stories, try to keep up braz! I've been a heavy cannabis smoker for 17 years and have abstained many times though that period. I quit for about 8 months about 2 years ago and have abstained for a week or two every few months during that 2 year period, purely to kill that tolerance. At the moment I have quit for nearly 3 months and ain't really missing it yet, from experience that comes at about the 6 month period, when I know that one bong will get me as smashed as when i first smoked, lol. Abstaining just ain't a problem for me anymore and not because I'm superior to anyone, but because I've come to the conclusion that I'm a grown man now and just can't justify wasting my money, smoking my life away watching stupid tv shows and stuffing myself with pizza and shit. If you truly want to do it, then stop convincing yourself it's hard! you must convince yourself that you have the power to live your life however you want and then just do it and move on. There's nothing superior about it dude, it's just simple frame of mind.

The neg button used to suck! But only because it was anonymous. I would have been all for it, if people weren't just able to neg every post you made simply because they didn't like you without any accountability.

Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself! I hate that extremist hippy mentality, where they claim to be the definition of diversity and different views. But in reality, the second someone comes along who actually is a little different to them or has a difference of opinion, they claim “negative vibes” or something similar, then refuse to listen to anything the person has to say and try to have the person outcasted so they can go back to there little box and not have to hear any other point of view but there own. Worse than Christians mate! If your talking about me, well screw that! If you read though that thread, you'll see the OP acts like some enlightened soul, till someone dares to give an opinion that doesn't feed the OP's own personal ego and he just snaps. The people I'm thinking of didn't deserve it and I'm just feeding him his own medicine with my honest opinion. It ain't trolling, I'm merely not letting something slide for good reason.

Well, I just don’t think a person that proudly claims to verbally attack women can be trusted or considered a decent person in any way shape or form. But that’s just my opinion. Cannabis isn’t addictive! It’s just a habit-forming substance; the only addictive thing about it is what you create in your own head. I personally have decided to refuse to pay for it, so that’s it, it’s simply just not an issue if you just accept it mentally. I’ve also just quit from an 18-year pack a day cigarette habit. Now that’s a battle, it don’t even compare to abstaining from benign old erb. Maybe it’s the alcohol that’s your problem, its’ far more addictive and really bad for your body and general self-control abilities!

I bet that’s what happened to your last girl. You verbally attacked her and she reacted in a way that inconvenienced you, so you smacked her around right? Yeah, you can always recognise the women beaters from a mile off, usually always volatile & short-tempered drunks!!!

dude, I don't even think weed is your problem, I think it's probably the grog that's causing you to rant absolute senseless gibberish. Either that or your half retarded! Why would ya make a thread about quitting/cutting down on cannabis in the first place? Like someone has already pointed out, it's a recreational drug, not crack cocaine! Get over yourself.

edit; just realised your talking about the second eminem song I embedded, forgot about that. lol. Anyway, what are you talking about judging other peoples universes? I spent half my life getting smashed at work, it's my universe too. Though, I still ain't sorry for saying what I think about dumb shit I used to do, hence why I embedded the eminem song I guess! I swear you remind me of a drug councilor. A whole lot of theories and misinformation, but in reality no real world experience or any real idea of what you’re talking about. I've been a very heavy cannabis smoker since I was 13 and used to always whine and moan about how hard cannabis was to quit. I used to get extremely depressed, nausea & couldn't eat or sleep properly for 2 weeks after. Then one day I realised I just needed to grow some balls and deal with it, now I can quit without any withdrawal symptoms at all, except for a slight disturbance in my sleep pattern. Simple frame of mind and determination works wonders for me, how would I not be helping by sharing what works for me. Fact is anyway, I could tell by how the post was written that he had no desire to quit or even slow down, just wanted to whine about how hard he has it and get people to talk about him. For the second time mutant, I ain’t American. Why would liking eminem make me American? With all the years you’ve spent on an Australian forum I would have thought you would have learnt something about Australian culture. But obviously like most Greeks your so absorbed in your own ego your completely oblivious to everything going on around you except yourself. Edit: Don't won't to sound racist, but if you can give it then you should be able to take it!

I think that’s the whole put dude, the rich and educated aren't breeding anywhere near as much as the poor and uneducated. Why don’t you try telling people living in the slums of India or china that overpopulation is just a myth, or even the countries that have land borders with these countries for that matter. How long do you think it will be till the problem over their spills over to us? Even if you look closer to home, you have a trailer trash mother (or a hippy for that matter) popping out six kids who will raise them poorly and keep them uneducated so that each of those kids will start popping out multiple kids of there own as soon as they are sexually viable, then within two generations this original female is now grandmother to 20 semi-literate drug addict dole bludgers. It’s ridiculous! Yet you have bitched and moaned several times about the danger of having your dole check taken from you, how ironic! Dude, people like to idealise how perfect it was back when humans roamed around like wild animals without a centralised power. But in reality it was a brutal dog eat dog world, only the strongest survived and just living though the day was a stressful struggle. A centralised power is vital to our way of life, of course we need to keep nipping at their heels to ensure they remain fair and working towards what is best for the people, but that hippy shit about not needing a government is deluded. Go try living out bush only surviving on tubers and kangaroo meat, without the luxury of government funded medical care, wiping your arse with dried leaves, then come back and tell us how beautiful and dignified reality is without government. God, I hate hippies!!!!!

Unless you’re overly built with lean mass, then weighing 87 kg and being 5 foot 11 is indeed overweight. Secondly, no amount of lifting weights is going to turn fat into muscle!

Obviously they didn't fight it, because a job and a few clean drug tests and they would have had there kid straight back. Yet they obviously just decided to sit on there arse smoking weed instead! Btw, if there was actually a deliberate evil government plot to kill us off, then why did they force cigarette companies to put warning labels on cigarettes? Why do they spend many millions a year to promote & enforce safety in the workplace? Why does Medicare even exist? Kinda counter productive isn’t it! Truth is the only conspiracy the governments involved in is by trying to keep us as healthy as possible for as long as possible, so they can eventually raise the retirement age to 95 years old. Your theories have no bases in logic or any kind of rational thought dude, a population of sick and dying citizens doesn’t help build a healthy and hard working society, which is the goal of all wealthy nations. Proposals like this are a long-term plan to break the cycle of generational welfare and neglect. Maybe they don’t always get it right, but if you compare our living standards and general health to the majority of the rest of the world, it then becomes very clear that our government is getting a lot of things right and making a serious effort to perfect children from parents who can’t raise them in a healthy environment is one of the things they are doing right.

I think people tend to wear their heart on their sleeve too much sometimes and take words way to seriously. I mean honestly at the end of the day, it’s just a sound that humans make, it’s not like it’s a slap in the face or a beer bottle to the head. Personally, I throw the word “junkie” around all the time. Like anyone who uses more drugs than me, I have been known to call a junkie. Or if someone goes way overboard, gets so messed up on any drug (including alcohol) and does something stupid or makes a fool of themself, I would refer to them as a junkie. Damn, I wouldn’t even hesitate to call myself a cannabis junkie when I’m smoking way too much or get smashed when I have something important I should be doing. I guess it’s just because there’s not one single word that anyone could say to me that would really offend me, so I sometimes just forget that people can be petty and superficial and take that stuff to heart.