Bush is psychotic, hears voices

[Torsten]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressrele...r/06/bush.shtml

President George W. Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.

In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."

The series charts the attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999/2000 to Israel's withdrawal from Gaza last August.

Norma Percy, series producer of The 50 Years War (1998) returns, with producers Mark Anderson and Dan Edge, to tell the inside story of another seven years of crisis.

Presidents and Prime Ministers, their generals and ministers tell what happened behind closed doors as peace talks failed and the intifada exploded.

[Evil Genius]

I don´t want to harm the feelings of american citizens or the fans of bush but to me this person is just another dictator who domineers the weak for his own personal base motives.As i know a lot of americans, i know that the people there are aware of this though. I´m sad that the world seems to recognate this but hasn´t the balls to just say KNOW to the Devil. Please don´t get me wrong, everyone has to have his own point of view and i don´t want to retune peoples thoughts but as i´m german i think that we should be very cautious about people who say that they are acting in the name of god. We germans learnt our lesson in the meantime. I saw an interview bush gave short after breakfast about 1 or 2 years ago during a TV show in which he spoke about gods voices in his head and the future plans that he has. Very scaring shit, really! I don´t think that this is the right way to reach a consensus on the difficult islamist situation at the moment. I don´t think that religions have to be teared apart like that because of such basic political interests! The day i mentioned that people are still killing each others because of their religious believes, i became an atheist. That was long before the time bush jr. became president of the US. The Faces change, the shit stays the same.

[C12H16N2]

IMHO politics and religion should not be mixed....

The fact that Bush openly says that GOD told him to invade Irak and Afghanistan is repulsive.

Now its official, it's a bloody war between Chritianity and Islam

...although I guess it has always been that.

GOD damnit....

[Gunter]

I am a citizen of the US, and Bush doesn't represent me.

I don't recognize his authority. I think he was elected fraudulently the first time, and using deplorable and underhanded tactics the second time, also involving potential fraud. I think he is a greedy self interested politican, motivated far more by money than God, and that the God thing is mostly a tactic he uses because many Americans fall for it. America is run by greed and corporations, the people have no power and the government does not respect their will.

In the States we have a system that prevents the votes of the people from determining who is president. We are not a democracy.

The people in the states are considered consumers, not citizens. The government treats them like cattle. There is also more economic imbalence in the states than there is in China or Cuba, both communist nations. Most of the wealth is held by less than 2% of the people. America cannot even pay its own way, it is in severe debt.

The people are also kept ignorant as that the government and its corporate sponsors control the information in the media. Most americans have never heard of the Downing street memo.

I don't know what to say, I love the people but I am ashamed of the direction my country is going in. If the defintion of terrorism is the use of terror and violence to promote an ideology, then America under George Bush is undeniably guilty of terrorism.

Oh by the way, sorry about all the westernization assimilation bullshit too. Most americans have no idea how our government and corporations are conducting themselves outside out our borders. All of the educated US citizens I know are fed up and disgusted, but feel helpless and frustrated. Bush is a monster to me, murdering our soldiers for greed. For some of us Americans, these are terrifying and sorrowful times.

[Amulte]

i remember when all thisshit started and bush came out for a press conference, "well what are you going to do Mr Bush?"

"Well were going to start a crusade..."

[trixxy3]

I think its quite pathetic of someone to seek validation of their actions in this way, regardless of who they are. In a way it could be quite incriminating for a normal person if they were found to be sane, yet "blaming" their actions on a higher entity rather than themselves shows they knew what they were doing was wrong, either morally or legally. In a way its kind of similar to a trait that some serial killers have been known to possess.

Still how are you supposed to learn from your mistakes if you're not responsible for your own thoughts and/or actions?

[Torsten]

Al Gore recently gave an interesting speech. It is way too honest and brutal to win him any friends, but then again I never understood how he made it this far in politics.

His point is that americans are more interested in mindnumbing television news and hype than in reality itself. They carry on about obessive single causes while thousands of people die on the other side of the world. It';s an interesting read. And it explains very well why things won't change in the USA in the near future. I am just wondering who the next dictatorial psychotic at the helm will be.....

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/06/D8D2IU703.html

[Darklight]

It's interesting that a leader of such note is committed to listening to a being whose existence is in question, but when it comes to listening to actual real people he's less than interested

[Cyjack]

I can just imagine the conversation Bush and his co-horts might have had...

Bush: Wont they just want to kill me because of everything I stand for?

Co-horts: No =- all you have to do is tell them that God told you to do these things.

Bush: What? Thats crazy - no one will believe that!

Co-horts: You dont understand Mr President, these people actually believe in God. They arent just using God as an excuse for their actions. So if you claim that God is on your side, then they will respect that.

Bush: Are you sure? I dont want to go in there with a smile on my face, telling them that God talks to me.

Co-horts: Dont worry Mr President, when it comes to 'hearing voices', half the people in the world are in denial, and the other half are in prison. No one is going to question you. In fact, we wont allow anyone to question you, just to be sure.

Bush: Right then - God told me to do it. If you dont like it, I can have you killed. Easy.

[Leo^]

Its funny, Ive been to bible college (not that I trust the bible 100%) and theres a very strong point made in it that in the future the one who would bring death and destruction to the world would do it in the name of peace and security for Israel and that these claims are lies that will never cullminate in anything but death ;)

[zee_werp]

Cyjack, I think you have too much faith in Bush as a person....I doubt he ever questions the cohorts.

Maybe 'God' actually is the cohorts....speaking to bush through that big gold telephone on his desk that they told him was the direct line to heaven.

[ShiningPlain]

insane, or just one of the world's stupidest liars? hmm, probably both. and he did cheat both elections.

[Gunter]

America doesn't have any good karma I fear. Slavery, murdering natives and stealing their lands, and global imperialism just aren't good for the spiritual health of a nation.

His tests scores seem to show his IQ is around 120, that is much smarter than the average american, but still not that smart in my opinion. All of the people who now run my nation have corporate experience, very few ofthem have any experience in governing. Many corporate sponsors of the American Empire give money to both candidates in the elections. The choice becomes between one sell out and another, but the people who choose are not the citizens, who really are more concerned with celebrity gossip than what their leaders are doing. It is a nation composed mostly of apathetic sheeple.

I don't know what to say other than I care, and I do voice my opinion and vote and believe in ethics and peace and freedom all things I think Bush acts against. If you were born into this situation, what would you do?

[Evil Genius]

Hi Archaea,

it´s important that the people in your country keep on raising their voices and tell what they actually think about the ongoing political situation. Bushs IQ isn´t very important to me as i´m pretty sure that he doesn´t even come up with his own lies. He´s just a puppet who gets a new script every day.

Don´t judge your country that hard. It´s all about the dictators that we should get rid of. We can´t change what happenend years before as long as we aren´t willing to sit on our own hands any longer. I´m pretty sure that the americans aren´t willing to acquiesce the actions of their first soldier anymore. I´m sure that the political situation in your beautiful country will recover as soon as you got rid of the texas desert dirt. If there are any Bush Followers, "don´t get mad"! Everyone has his own way to look at the truth and that´s mine. I know too many people who are suffering since the bush administration. I think that Bush only attacks because he is weak and wants to distract of his own domestically failures. As long as Bush stays president of the United States, there will be war. It´s the only way he knows and it seems to be the only thing that he has learnt from his father.

[Amulte]

Cyjack, I think you have too much faith in Bush as a person....I doubt he ever questions the cohorts.

Maybe 'God' actually is the cohorts....speaking to bush through that big gold telephone on his desk that they told him was the direct line to heaven.

yeah, they got Mr Chaney to call up Bush pretending to be God

[ShiningPlain]

you can only say that americans are stupid for not getting rid of bush, if you also say that australians are stupid for not getting rid of howard. at least there are still many americans that are going nuts with activism, aswell as the 9/11 investigation; which is more than i can say about australians. i mean, is there even ONE australian site talking about the 9/11 conspiracy, or the iraq war conspiracy?? 9/11 is the most investigated and researched conspiracy IN HISTORY, yet us as australians are barely talking about. damn lazy apathetic conservative bastards we are!

[occidentalis]

White House denies that God told Bush to invade Iraq

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/White_House_de..._to_invade_Iraq

[-YT-]

Heres a little sumthing thats good for a laugh thanks to Smogs :D

http://www.badmash.org/videos/videos_flv.p...2K_Stream.flv&t

Sorry to detract from the disscussion but its dam funny enjoy

[Amulte]

you can only say that americans are stupid for not getting rid of bush, if you also say that australians are stupid for not getting rid of howard. at least there are still many americans that are going nuts with activism, aswell as the 9/11 investigation; which is more than i can say about australians. i mean, is there even ONE australian site talking about the 9/11 conspiracy, or the iraq war conspiracy?? 9/11 is the most investigated and researched conspiracy IN HISTORY, yet us as australians are barely talking about. damn lazy apathetic conservative bastards we are!

now keep in mind i dont NOT support Bush or howard, but Australians are not yank your doodle dandys. that why, and it is NOT the biggest conspiracyIN HISTORY! maybe if you are american, but otherwise...

now i am NOT defaming the radjety of 9/11, but there is not need to winge about it in Australia. we do not live in America so it is but its also NOT our problem. YES howard liicks out Bush's ass but that dont mean shit!

if ya watch anything on bush you will learn he did not get elected legally, howard on the other hand is just a fuckwit!

just cuz we dont cry at the same pitch as fucking yank you doodles dont mean we have less of an opinion

[Amulte]

also i have to say thanks for smogs for sending that to me :D :D :D

[Torsten]

Amulte, please do not use terms that offensively generalise a people. It is that sort of generalisation and lack of understanding that makes american politics and culture what it is - and it is certainly not what we would want to replicate here.

[spiders]

I managed to even find this news story in the Taipei Times which is one of the most pro-american and Pro-bush newspapers in the world (bevause of the novel belief that america will save taiwan when the chinese eventually invade - which will ofcourse never happen)

[ShiningPlain]

now keep in mind i dont NOT support Bush or howard, but Australians are not yank your doodle dandys. that why, and it is NOT the biggest conspiracyIN HISTORY! maybe if you are american, but otherwise...

now i am NOT defaming the radjety of 9/11, but there is not need to winge about it in Australia. we do not live in America so it is but its also NOT our problem. YES howard liicks out Bush's ass but that dont mean shit!

if ya watch anything on bush you will learn he did not get elected legally, howard on the other hand is just a fuckwit!

just cuz we dont cry at the same pitch as fucking yank you doodles dont mean we have less of an opinion

wow, no need to have a fit. i'm not the one going nuts, you are; with your apathy. don't you understand that if australia knew the truth about 9/11, there would be an uprise to get rid of both the bush government and the howard government? and that from then on we'd all be more cautious of our governments, and may even comprehend taking them over? and australians died in 9/11 aswell you know.

what do you mean that we're not yank your doodle dandys? are you implying that we're smarter than them? if so, where's all the activism?? and i never said that we should "whinge" about 9/11, i just said that we need to talk about it. it is a crucial, crucial subject. but hey, i guess it isn't to you. you obviouslly don't care about the state sponsored killings of thousands of people. well guess what, you better; because it's gonna come to australia pal.

9/11 is the main reason we have soldiers in iraq, the main reason bush and howard became so close, and it's the main reason we have all these stupid new terror laws. so how is it not our problem??? and i mean, if we can't trust the world power (which is now telling howard what to do with australia), who can we trust? and i didn't say 9/11 was the biggest conspiracy, i said it was the most RESEARCHED and INVESTIGATED conspiracy! a totally different thing. the illuminati is most probably the biggest conspiracy.

[spiders]

Generalisations are bad news - particular from a country like America where such hugely diverse ideologies can apply to people - but I worry about mylsef and were my thoughts are going after meeting some of the people I have met in Taiwan - the refuse of the west - the sexist wankers from all around the west who come here to try and pick up chicks because their social failings in the real-world are so profound that they have no chance anywhere else.

And they look at the women here as if they are an item at a meat-market - its quite ordinary - even for my perversly low moral standing...

And the locals here - well i could generalise as is my wanting, but it would come out far too bad for me to dare!! Suffice to say - I dont like Taiwan or its lack of ethics 0 and i dont like the freaks from the west who come here to hide...