peruvianus no.427

[toby]

so assuming hoping this variety? species? came from good active parents.

would this trait carry to the children consistently or would it be a case of finding the gifted ones and cloning them?

i don't know how long these things have been around has anybody grown them long enough to know, it would be a shame if in ten years there were thousands of these around that weren't useful,

[Torsten]

is this a KK427??

anyone have all of the knize numbers and what they are??

seed will depend on the other parent. if it is a 247 as well, then your seed will stay true to type, however this doesn't always translate inot reliable alkaloid content. taking cuttings from 'exceptional' individuals is much more reliable.

would love to trade some plants/cuttings with you when they are ready.

[woof woof woof]

Have seedlings of KK242 , KK Tarma both Trich Peruvianus var. Also Trich Glaucus, trich Patchanoi KK339,KK335 & KK552.

...will hopefully be able to get more. keep you guys posted.

Cheers!

[toby]

i don't think it's a kk number the only instances i've seen it mentioned were sacred cacti 2 where it's said to be "commercially available" possibly refering to seed, just number no prefix, or the JLH catalogue where it's referred to the same way, i'd love to trade in the future the largest at the moment are about an inch or so.

[Torsten]

the number itself without prefix doesn't make any sense. these are collection numbers, and they aren't really any good if you don't know whose collection

[toby]

agreed to above, the listing in sc2 is amongst kk's but conspicuosly absent on no.427, in the catalogue where other peru' varieties have a name tacked onto them this one has a number?

[Ed Dunkel]

I have some seed grown Trichocereus peruvianus "Matucana" TK336

The TK 336 would be a catalog number as well I guess, or would it?

E D

ps. any Juul's giants floating around here in Oz?

[Torsten]

Originally posted by Ed Dunkel:

The TK 336 would be a catalog number as well I guess, or would it?

collection number rather than catalog number.

basically it would be 336th cactus the collector T.K. collected presumably in the wild.

ps. any Juul's giants floating around here in Oz?

I have a Juul's X peruvianus which should be for sale next year some time.

[Torsten]

Here a list of the more common collections:

KK - K Knize

FR - F Ritter

L - A Lau

HK - H Kuenzler

C - CM - CX - Desmond Cole

R - W Rausch

HU - L Horst + Uebelmann

H - David Hardy

HH - Harry Hall

DJF - David Ferguson

LIND - Seymour Linden

MM - Massimo Meregalli

MLV - M Vereb

FO - Felipe Otero

OST - Dr C Ostolaza, Peru

PEH - Inge Pehlemann,Windhoek

PR - K H Prestle

DV - Dirk van Vliet;

DC - Dennis Cowper

Sch. - H Schlosser

P - J Piltz

RR - R Rawe

MN - M Nilsson

B - W Biebl, W Germany

JS - J Sladkovsky

PP - P Pavlicek

WM - W Minnich

GL - Gary Loos

CH & CSD - Jaromir Chvastek

AG - Alan Gilmore

RP - Ralph Peters

SB - Steven Brack

[spiraleyes]

i ordered some peru seeds from cactus heaven a few months ago.

they're tk336.

any ideas who tk is torsten?

[Ed Dunkel]

The same seeds I have then. Mine have grown to a healthy looking 10cm.

Is cactus heaven still quite good to order from, spiraleyes? It seems like they have gone overtly commercial on there site.

E D

ps, Torsten, did you get my email? Any thoughts?

[This message has been edited by Ed Dunkel (edited 23 April 2002).]

[spiraleyes]

i got em about 6-12 months ago.

took about two months to get through ,checked by customs,no worries.

didnt even see you had the same ones ED,cool.

how long did they take to get 10cm.?

mine 1cm-2 months

[Torsten]

no idea who TK is.

Ed, yes, will reply soon.

[Ed Dunkel]

It took about two years for them to really start growing fast. They made it from being slow little babies to quick growing teens in the last months!

I had a look at the order form again and it said Ref no. T3336 T .peruvianus KK242

But the seed packet said T.Peruvianus matucana, peru KT336 (I'm confused)

I also have some T. pachanoi matucana, peru ref no. T6336 and no other numbers.

E D

[toby]

is it necessary to pay for a phytosanitary

cert' for customs not to be a problem?

spiraleyes did you buy one when yours got opened on the way the way through?

[spiraleyes]

nup.

oredered them,three months later got.

saying-checked by customs.

[Torsten]

Ed, is it TK or KT??

where did you order from? mesa?

[Ed Dunkel]

Whoops, TK by the looks of my earlier post.

I'll double check.

Cactus Heaven is where I got them from http://cactus-heaven.com/index.phtml

E D

[Torsten]

I don't see any TK's or KT's there.....

[Ed Dunkel]

No, I can't see them in your list either.

E D

[Torsten]

are you proposing another swap???