fyzygy Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) Our original streaming partner demanded we redact key information from the film, which took seven years and over a million dollars to produce. After boldly buying our film rights back, and creating this independent platform, Christspiracy is now freely accessible and uncensored. https://christspiracy.com Provocative documentary on spiritual traditions, ecology and animal rights. Edited March 24 by fyzygy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starward Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) Just watched the movie. It is very much in the same vein as Kip Andersen’s other film Cowspiracy: The Sustainability Secret (2014). It suggests some interesting ideas. However, this is preaching to the choir and will only serve to harden positions on both sides. No argument, no matter how rational, has ever convinced anyone; it is human nature to defend our ideological positions ever more vehemently when our identity becomes threatened, and nothing is tied to identity as is food and the consumption of meat. I was raised a Christian. I was raised to eat meat. Meat was an essential part of my cultural practice. The idea that God gave us dominion over Gods creation was reinforced at all times. However, as I grew older and I separated myself from the Church and my family, I came to question the notion of dominion and the idea that creation had a hierarchy. Through science and evolution, I came to understand that my leg, the leg of a man with its vein, arteries, nerves, blood vessels, and muscle fibers, was no different from that of a cow or a dog. That when I cut into that smoked Christmas ham, slicing through the flesh and severing that vein, and watching that blood seep out of it, I knew that I was cutting through my own leg, and what I was doing was no different from eating human flesh. Edited March 26 by Starward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyzygy Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 (edited) For some reason Netflix took issue with this (but only this) Kip Andersen documentary -- his others all being certified Netflix hits. I like to think that some religious folks would be persuaded by its argument, or at least give animal rights some thought. I don't think a vegan Jesus is a particularly good (i.e. falsifiable) hypothesis -- but compelling "food for thought." Religious people are inherently conservative, alas. My family probably won't watch this, just as they refuse to watch Dominion. I don't blame them either. The first few minutes of Dominion was more than enough for me. I'm not sure what kind of person watches Seaspiracy and then continues to eat industrial seafood. A very hungry one, perhaps. Señor Wilson Robles had the following to say, in Christspiracy: Quote I dedicate myself to the path of Ayahuasca, sharing the experience of life with everyone, to discover consciousness. When it comes to spiritual ceremonies, they are not compatible with meat. Not at all. Because meat is energetically dense. It blocks the ethereal. It ties you down. It doesn't allow you to liberate. ... Some say "I've asked [God] for permission to kill the animal." But, you didn't hear what the animal said. ... Veganism is not a philosophy. It's not a doctrine. It's a state of consciousness. Your body and your mind begin to elevate, spiritually and energetically, with existence, life, and the universe ... with all. Edited March 25 by fyzygy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starward Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The one thing they skipped over in the movie was that the Buddha ate meat. His last meal consisted of Pork OR possible Mushrooms, and within a few days, the Buddha died. This is one of the major splits between the Theravāda and the Mahāyāna schools. There is also a verse in the Nag Hammadi Library that I remember, and I paraphrase it. When the disciples of Jesus asked if they should observe the Jewish food laws, Jesus replied that what comes out of your mouth is what pollutes you, not what goes into your mouth. What I found funny was watching the mental gymnastics and hand-ringing of the monks and priests when confronted with their hypocrisy. The problem that I have with these movies is that they come across as fanatical shock propaganda. They carry a gut punch, but you actually need to stand there and watch it to have the impact hit you. Most people don’t want to know or change, so they never take the hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyzygy Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 33 minutes ago, Starward said: His last meal consisted of Pork OR possible Mushrooms, and within a few days, the Buddha died. Strange to think that Buddha could have died from eating poisonous mushrooms: https://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php/Diet_of_Buddha Pork (of all animal products) seems unlikely. "Pigs' truffles," maybe. There is of course a more recent Buddhist innovation of deliberately breaking all rules and taboos, even those of Buddhist tradition, as a means of spiritual liberation. Sleeping in graveyards, eating at Maccas, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starward Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 @fyzygy Thanks for the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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