giant loph seeds, grafts...

[withdrawl clinic]

i grow cacti since a long time, and have seen a lot of specimens...

now that i'm older, i have reduced my ethno workload a lot.

i got 3 specimens of giant lophs, which are kept that, only those 3 pollinate each other.

once i saw a pic, from the us, which showed super giants (behind the strong steel cage!!), but i never saw them anywhere else.

 

if you are interested in peyote giants, follow this thread.

i will have seeds, and grafted ones available. i got no financial motives, just spreading the "giants".

the originaly came up from khorens seed.

[withdrawl clinic]

thank you for your response!

so i" fatten up" this thread with knowledge, knowledge, i have learned entirely from sab, and some other sites, which don't excist anymore....

members please post more!

 

i long time ago, at an american site, there was a german guy, who once a year started a thread, something like, "who can grow the biggest loph in a given time",

and he always won. this inspired me to learn grafting, and to do what, i try to achive with this thread. no doubt all his winning lophs were giants, and he achived that by growing many seeds.

i had a very close look at my giant lophs, and noticed something, for the first time, ONE OF THEM IS A BLUE LOPH AND RIPPED!

i observed this trait a few times but never as a giant. i have sown out yesterday seeds from the "blue" and will wait what happens.

most lophs look very much alike when they are juvenils, but gigantism stands out even when they are young, because they grow bigger faster....

 

i used up all of my seeds currently, and have going specimens on there own roots, and some young grafts on peres.

 

next batch of seeds, i will share with you, but only, if you tell me you can graft loph's, and have expertise in growing them successfully.

the trick to grow lophs is, HYDROPHOBIC SOIL and to water them not often.

 

[saguaro]

Hi WC,

 

I like the idea of this post. I prefer the appearance of the growth form with a large single apex compared to caespitose.

 

I've attached some photos of some of your grafts which I received several years ago.

[fyzygy]

I've had success grafting both halves (top and bottom) of various LW buttons to San Pedro pups / tricho seedlings. But these grafts invariably throw new pups rather than grow as a single giant button. +1 on barely watering a LW, even if grafted to a tricho rootstock. 

[withdrawl clinic]

i will try that next time, good info fyzygy!

 

i currently don't have any "slim" pedro, but could try with pups.

i will put some of my pedro cut's, indoors, so they produce slim and etiolated growth.

[fyzygy]

2 hours ago, withdrawl clinic said:

i will put some of my pedro cut's, indoors, so they produce slim and etiolated growth.

 

^ yes, vascular bundle of the core is (generally) too thick on mature-growth San Pedro; it will tend to push the button off the rootstock. Young growth, pups work best. 

 

Tricho seedlings is probably my favourite (most foolproof) grafting method, as you can sit the rootstock (just a few inches) on its own roots in a small glass jar, then hold everything (including the button) in place with a taut layer of cling film, 3 days max. 

[mcgrath111]

On 12/18/2024 at 12:20 PM, saguaro said:

Hi WC,

 

I like the idea of this post. I prefer the appearance of the growth form with a large single apex compared to caespitose.

 

I've attached some photos of some of your grafts which I received several years ago.

They're nice looking grafts, great shape. Nearly all mine pup (despite note being caesp) yet, perhaps I water too much, too much fertiliser? I inevitably graft the pups which probably means I'm just promoting a clone of a variety that keeps pupping. It's a vicious cycle lol 

 

[mcgrath111]

11 hours ago, withdrawl clinic said:

i will try that next time, good info fyzygy!

 

i currently don't have any "slim" pedro, but could try with pups.

i will put some of my pedro cut's, indoors, so they produce slim and etiolated growth.

I've grafted onto older pc, and success is lower, but as long as it's not properly woody it should take (given enough pressure). 

Unless you're micrografting the seedlings, then pere to pc. Come to think of it, I think I bought 2 monster arios on pere from you a few years back, single headed monsters. I've grafted arios on pere and mine also pup and generally look like they are juiced to the gills. 

[withdrawl clinic]

fy & mc, you both make exellent points, one action that can at times overcome "the woodiness" push of the graft, is to re cut, but i can't recall doing this often.

in other words you cut the pedro, than the surface will shrink (and inverted), exposing the woody ring.

even just the parabolic surface, created by drying, will push any graft off.

 

working with peres, don't forget the trick, with using an old fat peres leave, like a glue bottle, moisterizing the scion....

it's experience that makes good grafts, even watering the peres can push all the grafts off the scions.....

[Plantris]

I am very keen to purchase these giants lophs!!

[Groot]

I’d be keen as well if there’s enough to go around.