Varigated seedlings (or not)

[Humboldt]

Hi and apologies for the rudimentary questions on varigation.  Ive been growing a little while and was yet to see any varigation.  

Are these treshicchii indeed varigated?

I didnt separate these and replant together. They were plucked out together from the seedling tray and stuck in this pot, so is it viral or something?The other 20-30 odd show no such colouring. As a genetic mutation the odds seem far too great to have 4 in a group?? 

They have been growing a little ecspecially of late and seem quite healthy.

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by Humboldt

[SayN]

I'm sorry I can't help you mate, although yours do indeed look variegated to me.

 

Not wanting to hijack, but I have a similar dilemma: some seedlings from the same seeds just seem like runts - they don't grow nearly as well as their siblings despite having all the same environmental conditions.   Viral or genetic?

 

These are all from seed planted in 2017...  Supposedly variegated which I guess accounts for the slow growth but just a huge disparity in size.

 

 

I'm curious how long do you persevere with such seedlings?

[Humboldt]

Im having trouble seeing the varigation in these Sayn?  But yes it makes sense that there are  gene variations.  I guess some may have mistaken mosiac virus for varigation in the past but that doesn't appear to be the case for these pics. The 2 little chaps appear to be quite different.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Humboldt

[Humboldt]

I separated the above treshicchii and my take is that the colouring is from a virus spread by contact.

These prior to separating contacted at the point where it's pink.  

For better or worse i grafted the two other smaller pieces.  Check out the cut!

I have one other pot of seedlings showing similar colour.  A knuthianus x.

The two teeny ones will probably cark it if i dont act.  The larger appears to be bending (apex pointing towards the camera) so as to shield the yellow area from light.

 

 

 

[SayN]

I think the bend is because the green side is growing whilst the yellow side isn't.

[etherealdrifter]

haim no catkoose person but if in doubt graft the variegated child and see how it grows.

Now settle kettle -

but i know that crazy specimens like Chemical sharman's dick (terrible name)will change form according to what they were grafted to

but it still makes sense to graft if you can - to pc, bridgy amd peruvinoid if possible and observe the difference

otherwise just let em grow on their own roots and let them express their true phenotype through time itself and dunna worry whether it survives or not because nature took care of it for ya

[etherealdrifter]

hence grafting changes structure

i aint no catkoose expert but it seems obvious

[Humboldt]

12 hours ago, etherealdrifter said:

hence grafting changes structure

i aint no catkoose expert but it seems obvious

You misunderstood me I think.  I wasnt asking about grafting, rather:  Why is varigation occurring?

'Is varigation caused by a contact virus?'

If so 'Is all varigation caused by the same factors?'

 

I grafted a couple yesterday see how they go.

[fyzygy]

20 minutes ago, Humboldt said:

Why is varigation occurring?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variegation

Various causes.  I haven't read anything about variegated tissue growing slower than normal.