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Catha Edulis (Khat, Qat) Seed Germination Tips Tutorial

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These are the seeds I sell and post out. The ziplock bags are small "snack" size, but you can use any size really.
Open a bag, spray water in 1 or 2 times. Mostly seal the bag but leave a small opening in the middle. Pinch either side of the 10mm opening and push together slightly to make an opening. Blow the bag up using your mouth then seal it. Give it a good shake to spread the seeds and water around. If the bag deflates just blow it up again, it usually lasts the 2 weeks though. Then put in a dark place at room temp. I did this on 20 August 2021.
The rest of the pics were taken 2 September 2021. As you can see germination rate is still good, around 80%. These were harvested December 2020 and kept in a cool, dry, dark place.
If you want to buy any seed it's 23 bucks for 150x seeds, all in one bag from tree number 4 which is Vienna White/Pink (running low on others), including tracked postage. Message me here or [email protected]

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These particular seeds have excellent viability -- especially for khat (which has been tricky for me in the past). Thanks, Buttsack!

Mine I just sprinkled on the surface of a pot, mainly crushed gravel, and gave a daily misting. Not sure about germination rate, but good enough for my purposes. 

It's another six months (I reckon) before they need to be transplanted to separate pots. 

 

 

 

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very nice offer, buttsack, and your germinating tek, is very smart and neat!

fyzygy's methode, is what i used to do, but let me add something to both of your methods.

 

i have in the past experimented with polarisation of catha seeds, and have established the information as follows.

 

i would suggest to orientate, the seeds in following fashion. make sure the seeds are placed into the potting mix, with the wing facing upwards, the same i would do, using the coin bag tek.

than just place the bag in a slant position, so the emerging roots have a space to, grow down to.

using the coin bag method, and moving the bag around (changing the orientation of what the seed thinks is the down direction) can lead to the root not forming in a straight fashion.

placing the seed "wing facing up" as well will make the embryonic root go straight down into the soil, whilst upside down planting the root will emerge at the 12 o'clock position and than have to bent to "go down into the soil.

 

plant the seeds ~4mm deepand use fine sieved seed raising mixture for the top 2cm of the soil.

once the seedlings have formed 4 or 5 leaves, on can inspect them and decide, which seedlings to keep and which to cull, in the same fashion a rose or fruit breeder would go about.

 

bs, you mentioned vienna white/pink, which suggests to me the mother plant was a seedling, can please elaborate on this and tell us, if it was self pollinated or maybe mixed pollinators where at work.

 

 

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Hey mate,

 

PM Sent, hopefully this tek works as this is the only seed I've failed to germinate! (Yet maybe i received some really old seed, was an unknown fb vendor) 

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I've found that catha seed has a half-life of about a year, depending on how it's stored. So its gotta be fresh.

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Seed from a big old red khat tree ... always fails to germinate for me. Lately I've tried Buttsack's plastic-bag method (above), again to no avail. Seed was collected less than 2 months ago. This particular tree seems to reproduce mainly via suckering. It's an old tree (grown from a cutting planted 20+ years ago) so maybe no longer fertile? 

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I only managed once to get a seedling to maturehood, its flowering now and its a narrow leaf one. I also have a wide leaf var , also flowering.. Honestly its so easy to propagate through suckers, that I havent bothered again with seeds.  

 

Question:  both my narrow leaf and broad leaf vars seem to be self-fertile, and the little seed they do is usually lost with the air lol.

How are hybrids done if they are self- fertile?? or could I be wrong and only the narrow leaf one is self-fertile? 

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I reckon you'd prolly need to open up an immature flower by hand, and remove the pollen sacs before they've ripened, and while you're in there dump some nice fresh pollen from the other variety. Do this many times and grow out many seedlings and look for those that look like hybrids.

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On 18/12/2021 at 8:48 PM, sagiXsagi said:

I only managed once to get a seedling to maturehood, its flowering now and its a narrow leaf one. I also have a wide leaf var , also flowering.. Honestly its so easy to propagate through suckers, that I havent bothered again with seeds.  

 

Question:  both my narrow leaf and broad leaf vars seem to be self-fertile, and the little seed they do is usually lost with the air lol.

How are hybrids done if they are self- fertile?? or could I be wrong and only the narrow leaf one is self-fertile? 

so, we have posted a lot about this years ago, and i might add to hd,s reply.

 

1, at my location good flowers and seeds are produced only after heavy rain.

2, for hand pollination, and this is how ph was created, i put a plastic bag around the unopend flower.

than when it opend, removed the pollen stalks, by cutting them off with scissors. note this was done with premature pollen stalks.

than apply pollen from your cross breed to the stigma, note the stigma is mature if it "looks" wet.

than quicly put the plastic bag over the flower to avoid other pollen from fertilizing.

3, but my newer methode, is much easier and requires, no steady hands anymore.

let the flowers x pollinating by chance (or even help by hand pollinating) and than just grow all the seedlings and pick them by trait.

4, often this plant produces in fertile seeds, which look flat or not filled out, only try to germinate "fat" seeds. note in fertile seeds are produced by lack of moisture.

plants need to be planted in the ground to produce a good set of seeds...

5, to collect the seeds, you take the whole branch off, just when the seed capsuls are starting to split open.

than you put the branch in a cardboard box. maybe the long cut branch will still provide enough nutrients to the seeds over the next few days...

than you whip the branch against the card board, to get the subborn seeds out.

6, than like panning for gold you shake the box, this will make the seeds collect at the bottom and corner (keep box tilted).

than remove all the debris which collects at the top, and the seeds will be collected right at the bottom.

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