trucha Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) I stumbled across something interesting wrt this subject. Moderators please edit or delete this if it crossed any lines. From Ossato et al. 2017. Trichocereus pachanoi - Quando la globalizzazione minaccia la tradizione. http://eprints.bice.rm.cnr.it/16780/1/Trichocereuspachanoi- Ossato Canazza Polia Marti.pdf Translated from Italian with google translate Among the cacti to which the generic name of "sanpedro" or "achuma" applies, the curandero chooses the "Sanpedro legítimo", the species with tiny spines (Properly the Trichocereus pachanoi Britton & Rose). Species with longer spines and reaching greater heights, known as "gigantón" or "aguacolla", due to their reduced psychotropic power they are considered "palos cobardes: cowardly cacti". Sanpedro is also known by the name of "huando", derived from the verb Quechua wantay, "to bring on the shoulders ”and referring to the power of the plant. However, although both species of Trichocereus enjoy a conspicuous amount of hallucinogenic active ingredients, the species most used in divination practices, remains the Trichocerus pachanoi (the legitimate sanpedro), a name that the shamans of the area invoke referring to the "powerful sanpedro that holds the keys of Paradise "or in Quechua language," achuma ", probably related to the term" kachum ", or cucumber. In fact, even today the cactus is called "achumo" or "achuma" in reference to the fact that the curanderos (the Peruvian Maestros) use the thornless variety for their divination and therapeutic practices. Edited March 26, 2021 by trucha added information 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyzygy Posted December 23, 2024 Share Posted December 23, 2024 On 3/23/2021 at 6:43 AM, Halcyon Daze said: I've long wondered about the history of these 'Ogun' clones, particularly what happened in the time between you guys receiving them in the mail and Ogunbodede's analysis. Approximately how long were they grown out before the analysis took place, or did that take place pretty much immediately after they came out of the post. Do you think the long period in the darkness had any effect on the study's results? There seems to be a popular thought that they were analysed soon after their long period in the dark and therefore placing cuts in the dark may be a beneficial practice. Any other interesting things to add about Ogun's history? It's certainly garnered a bit of a cult following after the awesome study. Cheers A bit of "legend" I found at another website https://trichopedia.org/clones/ogunbodede/ The ogunbodede clone is named after the lead researcher who compiled a chemical analysis study in 2010. According to legend, Ogunbodede sourced many plants for this study, but one box got lost in the mail. That box had two cuttings from a pachanoi in Matucana, Peru. After almost a year MIA, a beat up box arrived with two cuts that had almost mummified during the journey. One was used in the analysis and the data was an outlier more than two standard deviations above the mean. Instead of looking into the variable that caused the discrepancy, they included it in the report as is. The other cutting was planted, and dispersed throughout the cactus community with the Ogunbodede name. Sacred Succulents did most of the original dispersion. As for looks, it has that smooth Matucana pach vibe. Short spines and a nice green dermis help set it apart from other pachanoi varieties, but it's indistinguishable from other Matucana or landrace pachs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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