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NT - ID required for potential C. Cyanescens [solved:panaeolus antillarum]

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I'm from Victoria and so have no real experience IDing what I think these are (Copelandia cyanescens)

 

Found in some buffalow pats a bit below Darwin.

 

I have a couple of people assuring me they are the species I'm after, but I was just hoping to get a confirmation off someone here.... For some reason they just feel a little strange.

The 'bruising' is blackish rather than the blue/deep purple of the subs.

 

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These photos taken at time of or close to picking. Will update tomorrow morning when some more bruising presents and hopefully with some spore prints

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Don’t think they are cyans. Possibly  panaeolus antillarum but I’m a bit of a noob

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cyans will bruise quickly and look more like this

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not my photos - credit google images

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Antillarum for the win! Definitely non actives.

 

+1 to Zonad :wink: 

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Thanks guys! I had a feeling with that lack of bruising.

For anyone looking in the future, picture of spore print

 

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Cyans have a slimmer stem than those you found.

 

If in doubt, store them on a cool place for two hours after you have trimmed the roots off.  Deliberately crush stems on some of them.

If they are active you will see clear blue bruises.  I never put any in the dehydrator before leaving them sit and 'develop'.

 

I learned a lesson a few years ago when I found a half kilo of cyans after heavy rains, I discovered that Conicibes (not good to eat at all) were harvested amoungst the cyans, growing on the same pat.  I was grabbing several at a time.   Really hard to spot unless you inspect every one of them, particularly for bruising.

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Cheers for the advice, Farmer.

 

Hopefully your experience with the conicibes wasn't too bad !

 

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1 hour ago, Farmer88 said:

Cyans have a slimmer stem than those you found.

 

If in doubt, store them on a cool place for two hours after you have trimmed the roots off.  Deliberately crush stems on some of them.

If they are active you will see clear blue bruises.  I never put any in the dehydrator before leaving them sit and 'develop'.

 

I learned a lesson a few years ago when I found a half kilo of cyans after heavy rains, I discovered that Conicibes (not good to eat at all) were harvested amoungst the cyans, growing on the same pat.  I was grabbing several at a time.   Really hard to spot unless you inspect every one of them, particularly for bruising.

Well said, Sir.

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