Inyan Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, Humbolt said: Yep, now i get it. Thanks mate, vids were really helpful. Parafilm is very different to the grafting tape i used (stretch). Does it have pores/ holes when stretched? I assume things would vary with stock and conditions but how long would you leave it on generally? Just ebay'd me a couple of rolls, cant wait to get my graft on. Parafilm breathes, but also holds in moisture so you never have to worry about your scion drying out. You never have to worry about your scion lifting off. As for length to leave parafilm on. You never have to remove it as the seedling will grow right through the top of it if you stretch it properly before placing it over your seedling. However, I often remove the parafilm a bit after the seedling has started to grow and before the seedling reaches the full diameter of the stock it is placed on. This takes a little skill, but mostly patience so you don't knock your newly grafted scion free from its attachment points to the stock. If you decide you wish to remove the parafilm... slice downwards, never upwards. Make one long vertical cut down the side. Several small horizontal cuts around the perimeter of your graft at the points furthest from the point or points of attachment. Gently peel back and to the sides at the bottom of the stock where the parafilm is attached. Never rush it. It is far better to leave your parafilm in place, but mostly cut off than risk pulling the scion free from the graft. The scion will often finish the job for you if you simply leave it alone once started. If you have any problems whatsoever, feel free to shoot me a copy of the video should you chose to make one and I will see what you did wrong or give you a heads up that I think from what I can see that it looks good. Failing that, I can also look at pictures and help from that standpoint as well. My intended goal is to make you at least as good a grafter as I am should you be willing to put in a minimal amount of effort and actually wish for the same. Tips never hurt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 This is how I often prepare my Pereskiopsis for grafting... in seed trays...Use the tallest Pereskiopsis for grafting first as this will allow the shorter ones to catch up. As they reach the same height... graft more seedlings. In this way, you can graft as many cacti as you have seedling cells in your seed tray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humboldt Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Great info Inyan, once i get some pereskiosis Ill get practising. Will be sure to run it by you for tips and advice. Thanks for taking the time. Much appreciated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Humbolt said: Great info Inyan, once i get some pereskiosis Ill get practising. Will be sure to run it by you for tips and advice. Thanks for taking the time. Much appreciated A little practice each day or a lot of practice each day... but the important part is consistency and watching what works and what doesn't. Examine your grafts each day to learn from them, but do not go tinkering with them after the initial graft is done. You initial piece of parafilm for a pereskiopsis graft should be no larger than 2.54 cm and even that may be excessive. Use that to wrap your stock Place your scion like so. Notice the scions placement in relation to the ring? Off center is generally best. Grab another piece of parafilm the same size or smaller, stretch it tissue paper thin if you can. Slow and gentle with the stretching. Cover your seedling with that thin parafilm. Do not put a second layer over it Now, there is no need for humidity domes or changing of ones watering cycle. If anything, water heavily during this grafting process, after the grafting, etc. You may keep your stock and scion under the same light you had it under before. No need to move to shade if you were growing in full sun before. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Or, if you would rather graft your seedling to Trichocereus.. .Wrap it. Tap it And send it on its way Your end result in just a few months time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Almost forgot, here she is again today 22 July 2018 25 Days old 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Update for you guys...26 days old 23July 2018 I thought I would share this sideways grafted seedling for you... needless to say it was not on purpose. I was having some mild familial seizures while grafting and I just can't stand not grafting once I set my mind to it... so this sideways graft resulted. Normally, I will stop grafting or pick another day at the first sign that this is happening, but with just a few grafts to do... I couldn't help myself. And no, I would not graft on a day like that if I were grafting several hundred seedlings. I'd do the smart thing and wait for the seizures to end. Okay, without further ado... here she is Edited July 23, 2018 by Inyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 27 days old 24 July 18 Babies are being born! Each baby represents another opportunity for grafting of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 28 Days old 25 July 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gimli Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Bridgesii x SS02. Thanks @Inyan for the inspiration to try parafilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 14 hours ago, Gimli said: Bridgesii x SS02. Thanks @Inyan for the inspiration to try parafilm From what I can tell, you made this a little harder than it had to be by using such a large seedling, but I also see what appears to be perfect technique so I'll go ahead and predict 99.99% success on this one. Not having to worry about knocking over that graft or putting it in a humidity chamber is another nice plus. Very nice work my indeed my friend. There is nothing I like to see more than a successful graft. Its the greedy nature in me that figures... the more grafts the more eye candy to share. With that being said, Day 34 31July 2018 And a few trays of some hopefully interesting hybrids have been grafted today as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Inyan said: From what I can tell, you made this a little harder than it had to be by using such a large seedling, but I also see what appears to be perfect technique so I'll go ahead and predict 99.99% success on this one. Not having to worry about knocking over that graft or putting it in a humidity chamber is another nice plus. Very nice work my indeed my friend. There is nothing I like to see more than a successful graft. Its the greedy nature in me that figures... the more grafts the more eye candy to share. With that being said, Day 34 31July 2018 And a few trays of some hopefully interesting hybrids have been grafted today as well. Wouldn't a bigger scion be better since it would have a bigger vascular ring and higher chance of success? or am I missing something? I might have a few smaller seedlings so I'll do some others and report back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Great stuff Inyan, due to the colour of that graft i would have been concerned about how much sun it is getting but seems to be just fine and cranking : ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Gimli said: Wouldn't a bigger scion be better since it would have a bigger vascular ring and higher chance of success? or am I missing something? I might have a few smaller seedlings so I'll do some others and report back A bigger scion might fit perfectly on top and thus the scions vascular ring could entirely miss the vascular ring of the stock. Essentially sitting on top with the vascular ring either on the outside or the inside of the opposing growth ring. In reality, grafting a seedling such as this on the side of the scion virtually assures that there will be at least one if not two points of contact and thus a graft is almost 100% assured. However, for those less coordinated, this little trick will help keep your seedlings from sliding around thus assuring you have a good connectionJust don't forget to wrap it before you tap it As you can see, i also water my grafts on the day they are made as well as days prior and so on as I want my grafts to grow fast. Still, you may find you want to graft your young seedlings sideways. You won't have a vascular ring to contend with on your scion that way... you will have vascular lines, as in two lines, that you can simply place over your ring. Edited August 2, 2018 by Inyan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 21 hours ago, bardo said: Great stuff Inyan, due to the colour of that graft i would have been concerned about how much sun it is getting but seems to be just fine and cranking : ) Fine and cranking is an understatement my friend. If my grafted seedlings aren't purple at this stage I know I'm not pushing them hard enough.35 days old 1 August 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 37 days old... starting to get used to the full sun... 3 August 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 40 days old 6 August 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 9 August 2018 43 Days old A friend told me they had achieved 93%+ success by grafting with parafilm. So, stoked to see some are getting that particular grafting style down pat. Now If we can start seeing some more grafting pictures.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 48 days old... and a nice hybrid cousin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 Parafilm splitting... this is how seedlings penetrate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 3:13 PM, Humbolt said: Yep, now i get it. Thanks mate, vids were really helpful. Parafilm is very different to the grafting tape i used (stretch). Does it have pores/ holes when stretched? I assume things would vary with stock and conditions but how long would you leave it on generally? Just ebay'd me a couple of rolls, cant wait to get my graft on. Examples of how long I leave my parafilm on... Here you can see I forgot to remove the parafilm altogether Aesthetically speaking... removing the parfilm in a three weeks from this stage would be perfect for me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 This one is just bursting out of its parafilm hymen and already nice and cherry red for @bardo and @Gimli. Thought the two of you might appreciate this one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardo Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Thanks inyan, i do appreciate it but not as much as i appreciate the way you wonderfully creative,descriptive and vaginal way in which you describe it, so poetic : ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyan Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Some more hybrids.... yeah, I love em purpleor red. Provides some detail if you notice the cut going down the side on this own... that shows you the line I sometimes make to remove the parafilm. You can see however, it is definitely not necessary to remove the parafilm so early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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