Gimli Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 6:43 PM, Gimli said: 59 days since sown... 75 days and just breaking the surface. I have been wondering why Sandalwood throws out 2 shoots. Could it be for extra photosynthesis for the bigger shoot? Or if one is stood on or eaten it will be survived by the other? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Earlier this year I was made aware of a single Sandalwood tree in the Perth metro area. How it came to be there no one knows, but it has been there for quite some time going by the size of the trunk but unfortunately it did not set seed. These are the flowers.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) On 11/19/2017 at 3:33 PM, Gimli said: Gave some of my jam seedlings a cracked Sandalwood nut. Will keep under indirect light and a little moisture to mimic good rains around the April time On 12/2/2017 at 6:43 PM, Gimli said: 59 days since sown... One has been put in the ground, one I donated to a friend, one is being used for my Quandong experiment and 2 others had the sandalwood nut removed for whatever reason. The 6th one has done more in 35 days than those seed in pots by themselves have done in 81 days. All got the same indirect light, watering etc Without jam: 59 days and it only has a tiny radicle (as seen above) With jam: 35 days and it's full blown roots (as seen below) The 2 photos below is the nut that was in with a jam seedling. As you can see, the cotyledons? is emerging for a second time as the first was damaged. I pulled the soil away and could not find the presence of haustoria? Could there be something in the soil provided by the Acacia that causes it to do more in a quicker time period? Excess nitrogen perhaps? If so, how does this role work within the germination process? Here is one from 4/10/2017 I need to run this experiment. XX cracked seed w/o host in pot XX cracked seed w/ host in pot and maybe: XX cracked seed w/o host in pot + excess nitrogen in soil mix? Could I do it with only 10 of each or would more be required for a reliable "scientific" result? Edited December 24, 2017 by Gimli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 16/12/17 - planted 24x cracked nuts into 50mm seedling planter pots 16/1/18 - scraped away the soil from 4 random pots and all are germinating 4/10/17 sown. Will see how long it lives by itself Planted together with a jam seedling to see how they grow together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Cracked seed sown 16/12/17 as part of a germination percentage experiment. In a few months I will be helping establish near 300 acres with jams and next year we'll be doing the Sandalwood. Going to be fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 While sitting in the plantation today I got to thinking about grafting Some species of Santalum are quick growers but the oils from them is considered inferior, so like sticking a Lophophora on pere or pachanoi? I wonder if it would be a worthwhile prospect? Need a source for Santalum album seed now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) Managed to get a few minutes to stop and get some photos from around the plantation Sandalwood flowers. For all the flowers in the second photo, it will only set maybe 4-5 fruits maximum. Absolutely love the color of the foliage! Some leaves are short/wide and some are narrow/long. Can find both types in full sun or part sun Acacia aneura - most hosts in the more arid areas of Australia are this species. Otherwise known as 'Mulga'. A dense wood. Great to use in your camp fire when out bush. Unlike other woods that go cold in your fire pit, mulga will stay hot until the next morning, even in frosty conditions. Scrape out the charcoal at the bottom, chuck some twigs on and away you go. Sandalwood growing like weeds. We have to remove all excess seedlings as to not overload the hosts and the host:sandalwood ratio This little specimen really wanted to live. The kernel was approx 100mm under the rock. Can't wait to see it in some years, pushing the rock. Husk decaying, a cracked nut and a seedling in one. Perfect. Edited March 17, 2018 by Gimli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozbek Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nice work you're doing. Have you ever seen Sandalwood fasten onto an exotic nitrogen fixing plants , e.g., Leucaena leucocephala, Poinciana ? Would you be using exotic hosts in your experiments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Ozbek said: Nice work you're doing. Have you ever seen Sandalwood fasten onto an exotic nitrogen fixing plants , e.g., Leucaena leucocephala, Poinciana ? Would you be using exotic hosts in your experiments? No, I have not. 99% of the hosts we have are Acacia acuminata broad phyllode. A handful of Allocasurina spp and a single A acuminata narrow phyllode. No experiments here - fully working plantation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozbek Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 10/6/2017 at 1:07 AM, Gimli said: The usual host tree in plantations is the Acacia acuminata. Other host plants can be Acacia victoriae (and other nitrogen fixing plants - so other FABACEAE also?). Even Casurina obesa can be used. The common host in the wild is Acacia aneura (Mulga), which is also extremely slow growing. I will be doing some experiments to see if they are able to use Eucalyptus for hosts, among some other Genus On 3/29/2018 at 8:52 PM, Gimli said: No, I have not. 99% of the hosts we have are Acacia acuminata broad phyllode. A handful of Allocasurina spp and a single A acuminata narrow phyllode. No experiments here - fully working plantation! Have you given up on the experiments mentioned in your 1st post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Oh right, I forgot - I have a million things on my mind at any time. I found out that someone did it only recently, with about 30 or so species. I'll have to find the link to published results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozbek Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Bump for link: On 4/1/2018 at 9:34 AM, Gimli said: Oh right, I forgot - I have a million things on my mind at any time. I found out that someone did it only recently, with about 30 or so species. I'll have to find the link to published results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiggy Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) On 10/7/2017 at 9:24 PM, Gimli said: @mr b.caapi I have some (8) seedlings in pots too. Hopefully can do a give away/trade with them for Perth folk, assuming they survive the transplant, which is why I am waiting. I counted 19 germinations under a single tree. Crazy. I would love to buy/trade for some Santalum spicata please! Edited July 5, 2018 by twiggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 @mr b.caapi here's one of those battle hardened specimens we both enjoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr b.caapi Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Gnarly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 A few of the few dozen germinated Santalum spicatum seedlings in my yard. Popping up everywhere at the moment, right on schedule. Got a few pop up in the row of Acacia acuminata in my yard, 1:1 ratio again of host:sandalwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 I have a single Sandalwood seedling, sown 4/10/2017, still on its own. I'll grab a photo tomorrow. Only about 15cm tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gimli Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 You can see how the seedling has sucked all the energy from the kernel during its germination. Above seedling transplanted onto Acacia obtusifolia. This will get sun from noon onwards Most mature set of twins I've seen. Usually the weaker one dies off but it's good to see not all Started potting up a bunch of self sown seedlings to go over east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Another year, another load of sandalwood seed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) This is a really great thread, saving this one to read later. Would be great to make some sandalwood extracts, or essential oil. Stuff smells so nice! Really great thread and work you've put into this! Would be great to grow some of my own sandalwood, just need to get some established acacias first, but that wont be hard. Edited October 27, 2018 by Caster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimli Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Variegated? This has been yellow from the get go. Never seen one like it in the hundreds/thousands I've grown, all in the same potting mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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