slice Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Im not growing it yet but would like to to make a thread for it as a few collectors are growing Ogunbodede´s.When visited Lima found in the flowers market something very similar visually (what I first labeled Lima/Matucana) . Not witche's market, which now a days only has Matucana Peruvianus. Pachanoi was the common in Lima´s witches market but was strongly predated and distributed to other corners Peru, sold in markets. Now a days few can be seen occasionally in a home or street. That goes for most parts of Peru I have been (not many). I visited Huancabamba in 2013, a little town deep in the Sierra Norte, quite remote and isolated by hundreds of curves. I didn't spotted a single specimen in natural habitat. But in the market/magic shops and homes it could be widely seen, most likely cultivated . What they sold there was not the wild type but spineless. Further south in the province I asked local campesinos for the plant and they said : "this is a home/garden plant", interesting. Not that there are no populations in nature at all but they are hidden in the wilderness and/or becoming scarce. Not as common as it would seem.Back to topic, please show pics of your specimen if, it would be great to know this plant better. If someone can add information to my inconclusive words do it.By the way, Ogun/Ogunn/Ogum is an Orishá in African religion (Candoblé/Santeria/Yorubá) "He is a fierce warrior and protective father. Lord of the roads, forests and wilderness". Syncretized with Saint Peter. Edited January 11, 2016 by Ogun 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caudata Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 It's really interesting and a bit worrying to hear that pachanoi is not so common in the wild any longer. I hadn't expected that the domestic rates of collection were all that high. I wonder how many different strains of the "home plants" there are in Lima (is it one or two clones or is there a ton of variety from wild collected plants?) I'm guessing you've seen the photos of the cuttings when they arrived in the US, but here they are for those who haven't (taken from Trout's website): 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) spineless deeep green, what an animal! and those guys where boxed for months... I will try to find more info/photos I might have from him. So there where 2 cuts or? Same mom probably.Those plants. Edited January 8, 2016 by Ogun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caudata Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Here's mine. It's been grown in full sun all day so it's got a bit of a yellow tint to it. Just repotted to 5 gal, it should take off and get fatter this summer.Hopefully Trucha or others can chime in to help answer some of these questions. Edited January 8, 2016 by Ohlone 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsatrap Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Wow Ohlone, that's the most developed one I've seen in cultivation. Hope mine ends up looking similar - it's still very small and scrawny (I have awful growing conditions). Embarrassment aside, here's a crappy cell phone pic: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Labeled Lima/Matucana, flowers market. (2 different cameras/lots, same source) Edited January 9, 2016 by Ogun 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slice Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Here's mine. It's been grown in full sun all day so it's got a bit of a yellow tint to it. Just repotted to 5 gal, it should take off and get fatter this summer.Hopefully Trucha or others can chime in to help answer some of these questions.IMG_20160108_144930(1).jpgIMG_20160108_144921(1).jpgIMG_20160108_144926.jpgIMG_20160108_144942.jpgthat plant looks great and it will soon rocket growing, thanks for sharing. Bigger pots for special plants is a must, ive repotted mine to 10.5 us gallons and will do it again by the end of summer. Edited January 13, 2016 by Ogun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevyn Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Is this cut available from anywhere? Edit: Finally scored one of these on 9/17/2017 Edited September 18, 2017 by Trevyn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasemateau Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 seems this strain has got some attention recently on FB. hmmmm wondering if anyone may have a connect for seeds Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothinghead Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Chavin Herbalists collect and distribute seed. I think they've got a facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyzygy Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 If you search "legendary matucana" on eBay, you will currently find an international seller offering something similar, if not identical: "Thought to be the same as the legendary Ogun clone" -- but the listing doesn't state the method of pollination. Could have been crossed with another Matucana variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanos Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Do we know exacly where the "legendary Ogun clone" cuttings came from in Matucana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelly Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENtiTY Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Looks like I'll be buying some more misplant seed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyzygy Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Ogun cutting on eBay Not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strontium Dawg Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, fyzygy said: Ogun cutting on eBay Not cheap. I'd say for a 30cm section that's pretty good. I recently sold a small slab graft with a tiny pup for $150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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