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Im not growing it yet but would like to to make a thread for it as a few collectors are growing Ogunbodede´s.

When visited Lima found in the flowers market something very similar visually (what I first labeled Lima/Matucana) . Not witche's market, which now a days only has Matucana Peruvianus. Pachanoi was the common in Lima´s witches market but was strongly predated and distributed to other corners Peru, sold in markets. Now a days few can be seen occasionally in a home or street. That goes for most parts of Peru I have been (not many). I visited Huancabamba in 2013, a little town deep in the Sierra Norte, quite remote and isolated by hundreds of curves. I didn't spotted a single specimen in natural habitat. But in the market/magic shops and homes it could be widely seen, most likely cultivated . What they sold there was not the wild type but spineless. Further south in the province I asked local campesinos for the plant and they said : "this is a home/garden plant", interesting. Not that there are no populations in nature at all but they are hidden in the wilderness and/or becoming scarce. Not as common as it would seem.

Back to topic, please show pics of your specimen if, it would be great to know this plant better. If someone can add information to my inconclusive words do it.

By the way, Ogun/Ogunn/Ogum is an Orishá in African religion (Candoblé/Santeria/Yorubá) "He is a fierce warrior and protective father. Lord of the roads, forests and wilderness". Syncretized with Saint Peter. :wink:

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It's really interesting and a bit worrying to hear that pachanoi is not so common in the wild any longer. I hadn't expected that the domestic rates of collection were all that high. I wonder how many different strains of the "home plants" there are in Lima (is it one or two clones or is there a ton of variety from wild collected plants?)

I'm guessing you've seen the photos of the cuttings when they arrived in the US, but here they are for those who haven't (taken from Trout's website):

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spineless deeep green, what an animal! and those guys where boxed for months... I will try to find more info/photos I might have from him. So there where 2 cuts or? Same mom probably.Those plants.

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Here's mine. It's been grown in full sun all day so it's got a bit of a yellow tint to it. Just repotted to 5 gal, it should take off and get fatter this summer.

Hopefully Trucha or others can chime in to help answer some of these questions.

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Wow Ohlone, that's the most developed one I've seen in cultivation. Hope mine ends up looking similar - it's still very small and scrawny (I have awful growing conditions). Embarrassment aside, here's a crappy cell phone pic:

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Labeled Lima/Matucana, flowers market. (2 different cameras/lots, same source)

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Here's mine. It's been grown in full sun all day so it's got a bit of a yellow tint to it. Just repotted to 5 gal, it should take off and get fatter this summer.

Hopefully Trucha or others can chime in to help answer some of these questions.

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that plant looks great and it will soon rocket growing, thanks for sharing. Bigger pots for special plants is a must, ive repotted mine to 10.5 us gallons and will do it again by the end of summer.

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Is this cut available from anywhere?  

 

Edit: Finally scored one of these on 9/17/2017

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seems this strain has got some attention recently on FB. hmmmm wondering if anyone may have a connect for seeds

 

Cheers

 

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If you search "legendary matucana" on eBay, you will currently find an international seller offering something similar, if not identical:

"Thought to be the same as the legendary Ogun clone" -- but the listing doesn't state the method of pollination. Could have been crossed with another Matucana variety. 

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Do we know exacly where the "legendary Ogun clone" cuttings came from in Matucana?

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Looks like I'll be buying some more misplant seed :drool2:.

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2 hours ago, fyzygy said:

Ogun cutting on eBay

Not cheap. 

 

I'd say for a 30cm section that's pretty good. I recently sold a small slab graft with a tiny pup for $150.

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