Popular Post spooge Posted October 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I took a drive to vic a few months ago and bought a heap of acacia plants from Communicacian.phlebophiliaobtusafolia and some odd one offs etcacuminata narrow phyllodeacuminata narrow phyllodesome mixed stuff, i buy the florabunda from the b shop for 2.50 ea, they make great hedges, I've already got quite a few in the ground, some have flowered this yearobtusafoliaI encouraged Communication to invest the money i paid for the plants into more hot houses and raising more acacia plants as the guy has a gift for this, seriously he is a great grower of acaciaI have ordered 100 courtii from him, these should be ready next springI've some confusa as well from the sab shop and Doodthé Dood ones are doing the best atmall these plants are destined to be planted on a 45 degree hill side that has lotsa rocky out crops.good for drainage etcI love them and will look after them very welltheres already an acacia orchard the other side of the valley i planted last year and some this winter, these are doing ok, though i don't think some are getting enough drainage so I've dug drainage channels from their holes so any excess water drains away Edited October 3, 2015 by olive 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 this thread has been unlocked now so if any one wants to chat bout the plants then I'm happy too <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 what type of soil mix are the phlebs growing in please?awesome piccies mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) what type of soil mix are the phlebs growing in please?awesome piccies mate your acacia are doing very well horsey, esp with the stress of the move etc........They are in the mix i was advised to use from Communicacian, same mix for all these acacia as far as I'm awareMIX20mm gravel or similar, granite is prob best., 40%Native osmocote potting mix, 55%road base, small handful for each potnative osmocote slow release fertiliser, small handful for each pot, important as they don't add enough to the potting mixIve not repotted the phlebs as yet, i must get some big pots with good drainage and then repot themExcellent drainage is a prerequisite for these plants.i plan to plant these plants out either late oct, early nov, because i will have to water them all through summer i may plant them like the first lot i did in winter next year,These ones are doing very well even though they are in wettish conditionsthe other side of the creek where the phlebs and others are going is a much steeper and drier hillside.i propose to build a path strait across this hill side so i can get access to all the plants.i have repotted them all as most were in tubes and i also want them to get the best start in the medium that their in as possible before they are planted out so they have really good roots etc........ Edited October 6, 2015 by olive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strontium Dawg Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The sooner you get them in the ground, the better. They don't like being in pots for too long, and they explode with growth once they touch down to earth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 cool man, i will certainly keep that in mind.they are being planted up stream from a dam so it will be possible to water them during summer.just gotta get some water pumps fixed tis all so can pump water from the dam to water themthis is a large investment so i wanna make sure everything goes well and they all live n grow huge for the future.I'm planning on panting the 100 courtii when i get them in a huge plant grove in a spot i have reserved for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 update on the acaciastill in pots, going to wait till autumn till i plant them in the groundhave had to up pot the phlebs (got a few left to do) and will prob have to do so with the others as they are growing very fastthey are in the green house over summer 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hi OliveGiven the micro-conditions that A.Courtii occurs in, is there a specific soil-mix recommended for these or would the Phleb mix suffice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hi OliveGiven the micro-conditions that A.Courtii occurs in, is there a specific soil-mix recommended for these or would the Phleb mix suffice ?Hey Flux.......I dunno man, the mix I've used for the acacia I was advised to use by the man - CommunacacianHopefully someone who knows the answers will chime in and let us know.I've just acquired some courtii from the man and I was gonna pot them up in the same mix as the rest, as the acacia here are doing so well in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communacacian Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) Interestingly Courtii has demonstrated strong ability to adapt to most conditions found in Australia (from what I have heard) it certainly grows well here in Melbourne which leaves the question of 'why are some plants, in this case A. Phlebophylla and A.Courtii microendemic?' left open. It could have to do with their specific rhizobia symbiot however my tests (and others) have shown that even when not inoculated with their preferred strain of bacteria they grow fine. I personally believe they choose to only grow naturally at their defined locations, big. granite. crystal mountains! However, with a little encouragement will grow anywhere reasonable. Even more interestingly these locations have particular relevance to the indigenous people of those areas...All Courtii I have sent out have been inoculated with the bacteria direct from their home turf. As it is now present in the soil and root system of the plants they can then be potted on with the standard acacia mix Olive described which is native potting mix, granitic sand, perlite and slow release native fertilizer. Acacias are tough and adaptable, once they have developed some reasonable phyllodes only lack of water or getting the trunk snapped off in the wind seems to kill them! Edited December 18, 2015 by communacacian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) I have acuminate's (broad and narrow), maidenii, floriunda, confusa, koa and phlebs growing well with neurophylla and courtii germinating. Never inoculated any of them and have used native and baileys potting mix with some coarse river sand and perlite in the mixes with some native osmocote thrown in. Unfortunately they're in pots, yet are still cranking out the growth. Don't be too fussy I believe, they're tough lil buggers as communacacian said. Edited December 19, 2015 by upside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hi OliveGiven the micro-conditions that A.Courtii occurs in, is there a specific soil-mix recommended for these or would the Phleb mix suffice ?I thinks the charm lays in the ability to germinate said seeds rather than what they grow in! I've grown phleb in coir/sand to no detrimental effects, the detrimental effects layed in the number of seed that's purely didn't germinate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 4 and a bit months later...........phlebs obtusafolia confusa acuminata florabundacourtii lost the tag to these???sexyvery soon they will all go in the ground, am umming and erring bout the phlebs thoughi may position them, in their large pots on a steep bank that gets summer shade, the soil here is very clay, i figure they will shoot roots through the drainage holes in the pots into the soil below, this will keep the main body of the root ball in the perfect draining acacia mix and the plants can decide if the dirt on the embankment is suitable for them. don't want to risk their lives, will be heart breaking if they die due to poor drainage in the clay soil. summers here can be a bit hot as well hence the shaded position.these went in the ground during winter 2015kinda like testers to ensure when i plant the ones in the pots in the ground that they will like the soil and do wellthey have not had any care and no summer watering - apart from the phlebs which are planted in a few buckets of blue metal for extra drainage as the soil here is claythese phlebs came from herbalistics, sent bare root with their heads cut off planted this maidenii 3 years ago as a tiny seedling these maidenii are from Communacacian and were planted as tube stock winter 2015 obtusafoilia - Communacacian acuminata - Communacacian florabunda tube stock from the b shop planted winter 2014 these grow all over the place, self seeding everywhere have more courtii and obtusafoilia on the way 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strontium Dawg Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Nice. Your lost tag acacia could be simplex maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Be nice if they were Glaukushave tried simplex here before, unfortunatly they were sent not very well packed by a 'no longer here' member and arrived all mushed up, tried to keep them alive but they died..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2XB Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Sick dude!! Lost tag looks concurrens to me?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strontium Dawg Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I can send you a simplex if you want one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Concurrens sounds right DB, thanks manoooo yes please Glauky, will pm you for a trade man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communacacian Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 that looks awsome! yep id say the lost tags are concurrens! very cool that you have a stream going through there 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spooge Posted September 17, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2016 have been busy over winter planting most of the acacia's that were in pots in the ground. was loosing some trees to pesky wabbits so went and bought some tree wraps that came with stakes. these are a obtusafolia/longifolia x, fast growers along this fence line it goes - confusa then courtii then acuminata, the 3 types alternate till the strainer post at the end, the courtii are staked. a mix of acuminata, obtusafolia, courtii and confusa to the left of the track same track from the opposite direction a mix of acuminata, obtusafolia, courtii and confusa in the foreground, acuminata, courtii and confusa on the opposite bank of the creek a bloke i pay to do the jobs i don't want to do on my farm dug that walking path in 5 hours..... stella effort 10 courtii in a grove to the right, the rest are wide and narrow leaf accuminata confusa to the right, the rest are wide and narrow leaf acuminata with a few odd vars at the end acuminata narrow across the creek along the fence line of the sheep paddocks, 8 willtipole sheep there in the far right of the pic, these are great sheep, really friendly n they shed their wool each summer so they don't need sheering courtii and acuminata on the right, mixed plantings of courtii, acuminata, concurrens, confusa and some obtusafolia x longifolia across the creek have staked all the courtii so they grow strait for a meter then they can weep as much as they want to obtusafolia been in the ground for 2 winters acuminata been in the ground for 2 winters maidenii been in the ground for 2 winters floribunda, 3 winters in the ground, these are very hardy plants, planted some more along this fence line this winter....... one planted last winter, they are super quick growers Phlebs have nearly hit to top of the greenhouse, plan to move them out in the next couple weeks, will have to stake them as they are a bit lanky another bunch of phlebs i got from Communicacian before winter, going to risk it n plant these ones in the ground on the levy bank of the dam, 45 degree slope so should be reasonable drainage, will prepare their holes with blue metal and a native potting mix before planting. n thats what a fair bit of work and 350+ acacia trees in the ground looks like, very exciting to watch them all growing, should be quite a sight in a few years. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strontium Dawg Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Spooge, your place looks amazing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Simply put... you need more acacias 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooge Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 14 hours ago, Glaukus said: Spooge, your place looks amazing. Its a very nice area, 'high rainfall' for SA gotta like hills here and longish winters, not much frost which is nice, one or two mornings it can get to 0, and rearely gets to 40 degrees during summer, lotsa mid 30's and thunder storms that bring welcomed summer rains. once was a large cattle farm, the bit we've got was subdivided in the 80's. the property was fairly run down when we got here 4 years ago, lotsa rubbish, was over stocked n the cows had eaten everything down to nothing. though the acacias may form a bit of a mono culture they should stop erosion and encourage more bird and animal life. theres 2 species of acacia that grow wild here already plus quite a few introduced types that were planted 20ish years ago that are nice n big now. 12 hours ago, theuserformallyknownasd00d said: Simply put... you need more acacias may get some more to plant out some other areas as time goes on, next big thing though is to start planting gums and understory natives in a large section that we havnt fenced for sheep, massive hill that has some huge gums and is slowly rehabilitating its self . the tree wraps should last a number of years so I'll take them off the acacias and use them for the gums and other native plants when they are planted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madam george Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 you're actualisisng my dream you lucky southern Australian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 That valley is truly epic man. How good to be sitting under the shade of them looking at the creek in 5 yrs ! It will be a place of pilgrimage for acacia lovers, our Sydney /Newcastle crew might book in for a roadtrip meet then. : ) Full credit to Communacacian for his work getting these plants up and out there, I only have 4 of his Courtii, powering out of winter, and they are highly cherished. Much respect Spooge, thats a manifestation if I ever saw one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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