asking farmers if its ok to go for a stroll on there cow paddocks

[Etho]

possibly find a station where bush camping is allowed? station owners usually love having responsible campers who appreciate the environment staying on their property. From personal experience it usually leads to unlimited access to station tracks (4wd)! and interesting mycological spotting.

[spooge]

Respect is the key.

Don't steal...........ASK, ..........every decent farmer knows what's growing on their property.

They are not silly people though some city folk may think so.

Farmers and small communities have networks that any city could only dream of.

Be honest, tell them (though they'd alleady know) that your wanting to look for mushrooms and will be very careful and respectful on their property.

Some will flat out say no because of insurance concerns and angry cows will trample you to death, or they may have their own reasons why they don't want you eating mushrooms.

Some will um and ar a bit, so bring some inducements like veggies, home made jam, eggs, a nice pork roast, stuff that will visually imply to the land owner that you are a responsible and fair person, lotsa farmers drink alcohols, have a good quality carton and a nice bottle of scotch on hand, take all this to the front door ina basket so they can see what you have bought and that you have enough forthought to consider that a farmer makes money from the land, hence the mushrooms could be considered a produce by the land owner.

So you are trading produce for produce in a way.

Make sure the mushrooms you seek grow on or around this property before giving up your basket of goodies. Most cubes are large enough to be visible from the road as you drive past.

Also creeks are allways good sources, moisture etc and cows tend to shit when they drink

You may find most creeks are fenced off from a farm and it is actually gov land.

these are very good spots to check, shade is good

Let them know you will close all gates and be conscientious, esp where snakes are concerned.

We're gummies and jeans, arrive at the farm looking like your ready to work, leave the Armani at home.

Do not arrive in a hotted up car, drive a ute or similiar work vehicle, look country.

The farmer like most will make their initial decision on you within 2 mins of meeting you.

If you continue to get refusals then look at what you can change to tryn achieve more success.

Once refused from a property it's best not to go back, they'll prob tell their neighbours as well.

Most important, if a farms gate is closed, do not enter unless invited.

This is trespass. Whilst a land owner is not permitted to assault you if you are on their land, consider that unless you have a witness with you, it's your word against theirs and the local coppers will beleive the farmer. Land owners are also not permitted to threaten you in any way with machette's, knives or firearms

It is illegal to this and the farmer can be charged for threatening with a dangerous weapon, of course with out a witness your gonna be pushing shit up hill, so if it gets nasty, film it. ;)

Farmers and most land owners are very nice people, lots of them have indulged in the sacred so are well aware of the effects of the fungus and also the risks involved.

When I went to QLD on a cube hunting trip, I found I didn't have to trespass or ask at a farm at all, there were heaps growing along a road side cows had walked down. Massive fuckers, so easy to spot from the car. This then led me to a creek that was gov land (signage) n there were more cubes than I knew what to do with, I collected heaps of the big ones for making prints.

Allways tryn get your self some cow poo with mycelium in it for your garden as well.

It's very possible extract good isolates from wild specimens for bath tub grows in your backyard at home.

Do test this isolate before going to all the trouble of setting up a big grow as if it's a shitty isolate you will get shitty shrooms, growth rate and potency.

Pans and copes are a bit diff than cubes, cubes are much easier to find imo.

depending on where you are of course.

[-RC-]

^ Nice contribution. Thanks Olive

[alfamiller]

thanks olive

agree 100%

[Etho]

Agree with the above, quality informative post one for the archives

[stonewolf]

From my limited experience of strolling around paddocks on mycology expeditions I've found pissed off cows with a bad attitude to be way more threatening than farmers.

There have been a few times where I've scrambled under fences to escape them...mild mannered my ass.

Love the idea of approaching farmers with gifts like scotch. Really makes sense.

[m1ch43l8]

Also may I add while you are looking around focused on the ground do look up and often. Or you may make the same mistake I did 10 years ago and walk in to a territorial angry bulls paddock.

[alfamiller]

ive recently made friends with a farmer who is happy for us to collect poo from hes feilds so far weve been twice and come back with a ute load of poo full of mycilium that ive put into a cut down IBC and its colonizing like crazy!!!!!

also picked a nice bucket full of goldn goodness

[Pat Uri]

Bless you Olive you are exactly right.

Property owners have been screwed by Duty-of-Care laws for decades - in my local Brahmans Society chapter the general feel is anyone on your land is up to no good and can successfully sue you if you don't take reasonable action to get them away.

Doesn't mean owner's aren't decent people that would happily let you wander around - it is just peace of mind. We rarely see folk on our properties - and we know everything that goes on.

If you could advertise on the pub's bulletin board you will pay for bags of dry manure to be taken as pocket money for the local kids you will be well rewarded. Take them home and water them up covered in tarpaulins - let them heat up in fermentation - and you will be rewarded with flushes of mushrooms and then excellent fertilizer.

A couple of winter collected bags of turds turns into near half a tonne of the best growing material ever.

I hate the way the paranoia has gone - but it is there, for real.

Any local rural school would be pleased to accommodate supply of manure, but permission to enter the property is just too full on these days and really out of mind set.

Even paid contractors are in/out only. Hope this helps - best way to profit yourself and the kids and the school and the owners.

Regards.

[ghosty]

"so if it gets nasty, film it. ;)" this is not legal and may cause more trouble. looking for mushrooms or trouble?

"When I went to QLD on a cube hunting trip, I found I didn't have to trespass or ask at a farm at all, there were heaps growing along a road side cows had walked down. Massive fuckers, so easy to spot from the car. This then led me to a creek that was gov land (signage) n there were more cubes than I knew what to do with, I collected heaps of the big ones for making prints."

i agree, not ever seen any reason to enter a persons land. i only look for em every 10 years or so, if i feel they are needed. think i know this place too great place for a relaxing BBQ

[Francois le Danque]

"so if it gets nasty, film it. ;)" this is not legal and may cause more trouble. looking for mushrooms or trouble?

how exactly is it not legal to film someone threatening you? i get that it may be illegal to film on someone's property without their permission, but if they start violence or are threatening your life you must be entitled to record the evidence.

As for farmers being unhappy with hippies on their land, i didn't think this was texas! i am on my parents' farm right now and i can assure you all the ~50 neighbouring families would not take strong issue with it, they would probably just suspiciously ask what you were up to. I do it all the time when the neighbours stroll around on our land! People around here don't seem too fazed by such things.

Personally i wish it was like sweden where you can go on anyone's property unless you camp within 100m of their house, or if they find you and ask you to leave. it makes much more sense. people should be allowed to walk about the earth, as long as they don't cause any trouble (or make infuriating lawsuits...)

finally incog your dad sounds like a cunt. i am sorry for how your life must be and have been.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Francois le Danque

[TheMooseZeus]

Bringing up an old thread here but what about NSW pine plantation? Can you legally take a stroll through one of these? 

[Strontium Dawg]

12 hours ago, TheMooseZeus said:

Bringing up an old thread here but what about NSW pine plantation? Can you legally take a stroll through one of these? 

Pine forests are usually state forests/recreation areas and you can walk through them to your heart's content.

[TheMooseZeus]

2 minutes ago, Glaukus said:

Pine forests are usually state forests/recreation areas and you can walk through them to your heart's content.

Aw yea, sounds great 

[Northerner]

Even if you don't find any mushies it's a great outing.

[LIBERTYNY]

 Most farmers hear will happily let you hunt vermin on their land,  20 years ago they would even pay for your ammo.

[MaccaAu]

For me the farmer looks a bit grumpy and glares at cars even near his property, i am fortunate with the bush and my excellent hearing and vision :D i read Spooge found them in public land, i think i know the area, its on my list if i ever get busted from the farmer

[Mycot]

Some rules for trespassing.  Don't ask ....Steal, unless you know they're cool.

While some may object to this, this is what is generally done until approached by that farmer.

 

1) Don't get caught. This saves a lot of hassle, so its a good idea to stay out of the line of sight of any buildings.

Under this rule, asking a farmer for permission may not always be wise. The worst that can happen may not be a simple no.

What's worse is that permission may be granted, only for the farmer to next be phoning the cops while you're out picking.

On the other hand, if a farmer does unexpectedly chance upon you, be straight up, ask permission and assess from his behavior whether its reasonably safe to go ahead.

At least a good number of times (although not always) farmers can be surprisingly cool if some respect is shown.

 

2) Show respect. Close gates. Don't spook and/or disturb the cattle,  a whole herd may end up stampeding across the field causing alarm.

Be discreet. Don''t go plowing across fields with a whole bunch of people. Go alone or with one other person.

Be secretive and limit visual exposure to passing traffic.

 

3) Happy hunting.  Be wary & take no bull.

 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Mycot
Spell corrections. better formatting + small addition