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"Spineless bridgesii"

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Hey. So, I got this plant from awesome user T-trich as a "spineless bridgesii." I think it looks closer to a spineless scopulicola, but something looks a bit off for that as well. What do yall think?

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I have a plant with similar looking attributes, slightly more spines and none of the above crosses mentioned :)

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Hey eg that plant is actually a pach x terscheckii

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EG, is that tarma you posted a photo of from huancacalorica or florida by any chance?

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Ohlone, do you mean Huancavelica? Don´t know huancacalorica so I am not sure if that´s a typo or just a town I don´t know. It is not from Huancavelica or Florida Tarma. The ones from Florida look more like typical Cuzcos and get extremely spiny later on.

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Looks like a bridgesii to me :)

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Hi Getafix, where is it from? Do you have a pic of the motherplant? It is possible (though highly unlikely) that a cross just produces a type that doesn´t look like the parents and is very similar to one that already exists in nature, but I think there´s also a great chance the Pachanoi just wasn´t a Pachanoi. I have yet to see one of those with the correct label.

Interbeing, the one on my pic is definitely not a Bridgesii but I guess you meant the one on the other pic,right? And knuthianus is closer to Cuzcoensis than to anything else. The one on Getafix pic on the other hand, maybe. But it´s common for those Knuthianus type plants to be mislabeled and I wouldnt be surprised if that´s the case here too.

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Hi Eg,

That plant was grown from seed from Tripsis. I received it as a very small seedling along with many others.

Everyone of the Pach x Tersch show quite different characteristics from that batch. I will post pics of all 5 or 6 of them at the weekend.

Everything I received from Tripsis grew true to form so have had no reason to doubt their parentage.

Having said that i obviously can't be 100% sure of the parents so maybe was a seedling that got mixed up or miss labelled.

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Very beautiful specimen, OP specimen...

I see it as a hybrid scopulicola X knuthi... (scop being the mother)

I really cant see any bridgesii in it, except the tip's glaucusness colour.

Michaels pic is showing a pure scop showing some tuberculation because its dehydrated, they can do this..

but Ohlones/op's cactus doesn't seem to be unwatered, nor it seems to have lost the spines due to mechanical or other stress.

Granted, I haven't grown my OZ knuthianus for long but it doesn't look like this one... I will be looking for falling spines from now on..

The specimen I am seeing here is different, its very boldly tubercled (something only seen in knuthi that intensely) and it seems to have spineless scop's areoles, that is tiny, submerged areoles..

Note that the combination of a phenotype with submerged areoles (spineless scop, common in oz) with a tubercled phenotype (knuthianus cuzcoids, regular in oz collections) COULD theoretically enhance the tubercled pattern, like in this special specimen...

To sum up, this is AMAZING, and in my eyes NOT a regular knuthi!

be sure to update with pics when it grows and even open up a new thread about it in the main cactus section...

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Hello all, I didn't realize this was being discussed until another member pointed it out to me the other day. I have been in the process of moving and have not checked back in a while. Thanks ohlone for the great specimens! I can tell you that it was seed grown as a cross between bridgesii x pach (as reported from the original owner that I got it from). The same seed batch produced two very different looking clones. I will take pics of both clones, new growth, and a very similar plant purchased at a local cactus nursery tomorrow to post. This clone is very different from the knuth. I have from SS., and ohlone's observations are spot on...

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Ok, I went out today and took some pics to post...

This is a cutting from the same plant that ohlone posted to start the thread that I purchased as a cross between a bridgesii and pachanoi. One of the offsets off a rooted log is starting to throw some spines.....they remind me of newer growth on an SS02?

this one shows the typical growth that was in Ohlone's original pic...

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This one show some basal pups...

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This one shows an offset with spines starting....

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This set of pics is from a similar plant that I purchased from a local nursery without a label, but he believed it was some form of bridgesii....needs some TLC!

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Spine...

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I think that have one more that came from the same batch of seed according to the original owner. I will look for it today and post tomorrow. I also have a single spine bridgesii from the same nursery that has much more typical bridgesii growth. I will post pics of that one also...

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