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☽Footsteps along the Acacial avenue..⚡The Amazing AustralAcacian highway path to WattleB Grove☾

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mmmm this second "try" at confusa is really satisfying ...

-loves the new treats I've learned from mainly here ..

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dang , ok i have new stepping stone pad about to get in motion toward a bigger pad with a garden...

i have too many of some acacials but probably not enough of others...

cant seem to buy any more phlebs for love nor money yet

need to plan where I'm gna germinate them ...

i might use the rainforest box after i upgrade to the double one

or i might use the ixtlahuatl (peijotl tank) if I can shift the lophs and short stuff crew to the trichocereus growery once i afford to get

some "ganja growing" leds for them, and get to rename it ixtlawattle as previously planned :P.. untill all the wattling is done

and maybe put the small cacti back in it at a later date..

wattles are fast so i should probably relish the delaying nature of local bastages we're trying to wash out of our hair still

and I'm still pinching myself about the shtf since feb when the old bag swung out her battle axe face at us...

hmm ... what to do, what to do?

I'm sure I'll come up with something ... usually do ,

must just need more smoakl and thinking time ...

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ok some progress pics to post from the bought wattles

 

>> ...... erm yeah "confucious' wattle" :lol: seems to love ericaceous a lot more than the kitty litter

i failed it in last year...

and indeed mearnsii does have a spooky feeling i just can't help falling in love with deeper and deeper by the hour.. especially when the wind is blowing them.

It seems to be only growing at the bottom half of the tree though..

maidenii baileyana (dnno why i confuse the two) seems to have stopped growing..

and seems to hate branch manipulation just snapping in the process...

verticilata has had a major hackback as a test... and appears to have thoroughly enjoyed it.. :blink:

retinodes got a severe clipping after some sort of pests wanted to move in..

-fingers x'd it likes a good tipclip too...

(probably from all the autumn leaf fall of the huge trees outside me windows that keep slying the odd one in through the window every now and then, especially from the erm british wattle lol

[ash tree])

dealbata has done super well and responded well to being manipulated into certain branch positions.

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Had to toss out the retinodes i guess I should watch that seller

(same one as verticillata that came with 3 species of free pests! and the baileyana)

looks like baileyana has fkn snuffed it though ...

and on a non native AUS legume.... but included in the original plan...:-

mysubtleascention you beauty too!!!

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ok defo a thread due an update

so many beautiful seeds of acaciality reached me from some of our beloved SABbers and there has been a few losses

out of 3 seed grown maidenii only one seemd to have survived an onslaught of spiderbast mites all from that silly cheap and regrettable verticillata .. harrumph. the verticillata appears to have been stolen from the lawn and hopefully it will bless the theif with stabby annoying spines and spidermites and fkn caterpillars n stuffs :D

also down went the Acacia confusa and baileyana

but luckily Acacia mearnsii just about pulled thru

and bouncing back nicely is dealbata like the rebirth we love em for

the mearnsii had a little repeat occurrence but i think cactus mite tek of sulphur and IPA hand gel worked this time round ..

just seems to be only growing at the base of the tree - i wonder if i could lop off that top and make it more bonsai-like?

so impressed with dealbata, and fumbling now for a belated plan to grow some acacias that will take the indoor conditions until time comes when i have a garden to do the cold lovers like phleb and alpina ..

what with only 3 acacias left standing I haven't dared try in this appartment I moved into 7 or 8 months ago

... but alas , i couldnt foresee any of this shit happening last year and I'm thankful to be on the road toward achieving full Acaciality ..

Does anyone think cold loving acacias such as alpina and phlebo are worth starting up from seed with no access to the outdoors? - I would hate to kill em off with the central heating

or bake them in summer if it were a possibility..

or get even more limbo time-before having a garden ...

I'd better take some pics of the olde faithfuls :)

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also being cursed blessed with bags of more limbo I figured I'd get done what i could while i wasn't too done to do it :3

but aren't gna risk 1 rare acacia seed unless someone else has had success doing it before.. and i get to know about it..

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I'd say you could start them indoors and grow them under artificial light but if they eventually have to go outside it would be a major shock for them and you could lose a few.

Is there any way you could give them a few hours sun each day and bring them inside overnight ?

I've done heaps of them that way and it eliminates any need for a hardening off phase when it's time for them to go outside permanently.

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its the outdoors i have no access to now days ...

if you think they'd happily live their lives indoor i'll defo think about trying it ..

the only shock move then would be from one appartment to a new house ...

I figured that my outdoor climate was perfect for phleb n alpina and pataczechi too for that matter ..

i need to have at least 4 successes to flowering age ... (of any plant i touch, not just these)

so as to create seeds and do the plants a favour and help in their "wild oats sowing" :3

just currently planning on how to vacate my loph tank for it's original purpose : caisher/mimosa germination :)

....and might get back into the swing of things with some maidenii or m' tenuiflora germination for practice

and to get the pictorial done that I've been meaning to do by now :3

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also will probably have blue and red LEDs with flowering switch by then ;)

also donated mimosa arenosa to a new plantkin for practicing their hot water tek

and thus exclude it from my plannings so as to minimise a tad

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yay finally i found the phlebs and inoc  i lost in me stuff when i moved last !!! WHOOOO!

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had a quick warm up on some acacia burkittii seeds, and as promised, a photo/pictorial :-

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- reason for john innes #3? = it's what i had , usually I would use john innes #seed.

Also, no rhizobia added for now so I figured they might use the #3 feed while in experimental testings - hope it won't affect them in a bad way...

- I won't be using raw tap water to hydrate successful phlebs post-rhizobial inoculation for sure,

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    also will probably have blue and red LEDs with flowering switch by then ;)

    wishful thinking back then ... stil no closer to plant gro leds ... maybe one day?

     

    ---------  "Tail pooping tek"

    = basically leaving the seeds after the boil in some water , enough to cover them... and await the seeds to poop out some tail root :) .

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    just noticed 2 burk sprouts after putting the little tub of seedy water in the rainforest box (25C) so figured I'd continue with the next stage of the pictorial

    ... remaining seeds had their water changed and the largest one got an arsehole torn with the scratch-art tool to allow for easier access later.

    pots plonked back in the ixtlahuatl at 24.5C/day and 15C/night - but a few days later put in the rainforestbox which is a steady constant 25C(soil) 23C(air) day and night at it's current setting at this moment in time- re: environmental/weather/season  (temperate midwinter)

     

    Apparatus :-

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    well I wasn't expecting to get that sort of quick start so figured I'd boil up 5 plebs, bung em in the rainforest box to keep warmer longer.. and see what happens in the mean time..

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    And if I recall rightly ... I struggled first time round getting obtusi to tail-poop until accidentally leaving them on a kitchen windowsill, forgetting a while and returning to them much to my delight to find they had sprouted .. so I might take that one out of the RFB tomorrow and stick it on the kitchen windowsill :)

     

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    i can't remember the exact linear procedure but i was thought or told the best way was to clip the edge off the seed to allow the moisture etc. in when boiling and germinating inside wet tissue

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    I've been successful before with germinating a few species from seed with this method and I just stuck with it because it worked a treat,

    just I promised quite a few folk who I shared seeds with; that I would make pictorials to show them what I'd been describing since a picture tells a thousand words n all, 

     

    its taken this long to get to a point where I can try again :)

     

    thanks for the other tip though, I've heard of clipping/scarifying them before soaking in non-boiling water before but not prior to a boil.. I didn't know they were THAT tough. :o

     

    Anyhooo here's2017-02-02 14.22.51.jpg the only plant that survived from the homeless hostel window sill all the way through the 1 bed appt and just successfully overwintering in the garden at the new house :)

     

    Good ole dealbata eh?

     

    And here's2017-02-02 14.32.15.jpg one I bought just under a year ago and planted out , seems to have enjoyed the winter too 

     

     

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    yay first one to break the surface ! -edit- oh yeah they got 2 triggers of spray (aquarium water) every day for the last few days

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    well i think in the bush nowadays they literally have undergo a wild fire to work in the ground, but i also feel the climate is quite different and if my sense is correct some form of cross-pollination is introduced in the species. im certain this has to do with the water table as the plant naturally drinks portions of ocean water. just thinking out loud. i think a lot of cactus i have come across is very similar in the way it is too hot.

     

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    Yeah they do , I think that's why they call them pioneer species because they have the gift of re-birthing the way toward woodland/forests with their leaf litter ...

     

    I learned this with mimosa tenuiflora , and the advantage it has of being able to both; grow in full unprotected sun,

    and in the deep shade that the lifeforms it enabled to exist finally towering above them creates...

     

    Today I nicked the tips off the phleb, courtii and obtusi seeds like Manu suggested because it appeared the boil hadn't really done much.

     

    One of the phlebos was very soft and looked like an empty shell

    it floated after I'd nicked it with the scratch art tool... ,

    I haven't touched the pack  from communacacian yet... - they look large enough to have no probs with the scratch art tool..

     

    I figured I'd start with the smallest seeds from another SABer's acacia multi species pack first (courtii and the smallest phleb and obtusi seed in the pack) and work my way up to the bigger ones if confident enough..

    and I might do the alpina (much larger seeds) soon.

    If the phlebs get going, I can pass that particular milestone...

    then more inoc' to also propagate rhizobia in all of the seedling tubes , then once I'm in full swing; hit up the communacacians pack..

     

    I got a" further progress" burkittii sprout pic to add

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    I'd like to think the speed was from adding a small cloud of dust from the bag of communacacian's phlebo noc the other day..

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    Well I guess once you pop, you can't stop... so on went the kettle, out came 4 baby tubs which were duely inscribed (labeled)

     

    in one, went 5 mimosa scabrella, 5 mimosa tenuiflora in another, 5 neurophylla in another 

    and 5 desmanthus leptolobus and so on,

     

    added hot water for instant trees ...

    in the oven (RFB) at gas mark 5 (25C) : 3 ....

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    Clipping the ends off the seeds after the boil and soak really sped things up it seems!

    A' courtii , D' leptolobus and M' tenuiflora all pooped tails today ....

    unfortunately I snapped the best leptolobus sprout which don't appear to take too well to having their seed coating removed with the scratch art tool... from being so brittle I guess? 

    Luckily the other 2 species were much more forgiving :)

     

    I forgot where I originally read the expression "tail-pooping" probably world seed supply blog or one of their posts on a forum...

     

    I clipped the ends of some M' scabrella I'd soaked and changed the water on all the soak tubs

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