Eggplant graft and does anyone know a Solanum plant that lives long

[gr33ntea]

I made this graft of a eggplant on a Solanum Torvum . THe reason because every season the eggplant dies by succumbing to root infection/rot so grafting it to a stronger rootstock can extend its life.


I made grafts on Solanum Torvum but soon found it would only live about for 5 years because the Solanum Torvum would eventually die.
So i was wondering if anyone knew of a Solanum species that lives long and that is also a good grafting stock?

I have found Solanum mauritianum that lives for 30 years but apparently all parts of the plant are poisonous and im worried this may pass onto the graft.
Solanum betaceum is a good contender, its fruit is edible and lives for about 12 years

Here are a few pics of my graft,


This here is the rootstock

This here failed because i didnt seal it properly and moisture ran out

Rootstock big

And this here is the eggplant growing on its own roots

[bullit]

try this weed

Solanum chrysotrichum or its brother Solanum torvum

Edited March 21, 2015 by bullit

[gr33ntea]

They may be exactly the same? Do you know its life expectancy?
I bought some woodglue, i am going to use that as a moisture sealant, will see how it goes

[El Presidente Hillbillios]

do you do much fruit tree grafting bull?

Teach us your secrets. Im keen to get an eggplant tree growing too

[bullit]

do you do much fruit tree grafting bull?

Teach us your secrets. Im keen to get an eggplant tree growing too

I work with the best grafters in qld m8,

also these guys are highly skilled in avo seed clones and other freaky citrus clones

[doxneed2c-me]

I am interested in your findings. I have heard people using the root of a Datura to graft a tomato stalk to and they found there was alkaloids in the tomatoes. That being said it could be something fictional but I have always been interested.

[gtarman]

I work with the best grafters in qld m8,

also these guys are highly skilled in avo seed clones and other freaky citrus clones

Would be awesome if you could do a write-up on how to make/graft one of these eggplant trees! I've never grafted anything in my life but I've seen them done before and always wished I knew how to do it, what rootstock to use etc

[waterboy 2.0]

I was going to have a crack at grafting with .torvum , but didnt get prepared enough.

Keen to know of a longer lifespan rootstock for the project this coming spring.

good effort gr33n

EDIT - also didnt nut out what was the best type of graft to go for.....

competition?.....lol

Edited March 23, 2015 by waterboy 2.0

[gr33ntea]

Would be awesome if you could do a write-up on how to make/graft one of these eggplant trees! I've never grafted anything in my life but I've seen them done before and always wished I knew how to do it, what rootstock to use etc

I use a wedge type of graft, exactly like in the picture. I usually use two eggplants for one of the rootstock, i make a cut in the middle and shove the rootstock in,

make sure their outer skin is touching the outer skin of the rootstock cause that is where mostly like the vasular rings touch each other

I tape it up tightly and then i apply wood glue to the top of the graft to seal it. If i don't seal it then moisture will escape and the graft will fail.

I have found that woodglue kinda sucks, sometimes it doesnt work properly so i am going to try beeswax gel to seal the wound.

This video was useful for me

 

Everyone i know uses this plant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum_torvum but its lifespan is only around 5-6 years i have heard. I want something that will last a very long time.

I spent like 3 hours last time going through this list of different solanum plants and looking for a good grafting stock species that lives long and is a large fat grafting stock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum

[gr33ntea]

do you do much fruit tree grafting bull?

Teach us your secrets. Im keen to get an eggplant tree growing too

I don't do fruit trees but they should be easier cause my succulent-soft eggplant stalks dehydrate so quickly! But people do graft different variety of apple on the same tree

I am going to try a lemon graft on my orange tree. Just make sure they are in the same family

I was going to have a crack at grafting with .torvum , but didnt get prepared enough.

Keen to know of a longer lifespan rootstock for the project this coming spring.

good effort gr33n

EDIT - also didnt nut out what was the best type of graft to go for.....

competition?.....lol

Me too, i spent hours on this list of Solanum, looking for a tree like plant and then googling for its lifespan and then googling if it was poisonous or not,

like doxneed2c-me said " I have heard people using the root of a Datura to graft a tomato stalk to and they found there was alkaloids in the tomatoes. "

I use wedge type grafting because for me it is the easiest, often the eggplant is small, succulent and fragile and the stock i am grafting to is most often hard so i try to squeeze it in. And then their is the moisture loss, i haven't tried but i believe other types of grafting would be hard because of this.

However i want to try bark grafting as shown here http://www.wikihow.com/Graft-a-Tree

[LokStok]

Me too, i spent hours on this list of Solanum, looking for a tree like plant and then googling for its lifespan

what about Capsicum pubescens (Rocoto chilli)?

they live up to 15 years.

[gr33ntea]

what about Capsicum pubescens (Rocoto chilli)?

they live up to 15 years.

WIKIPEDIA: " They grow into four-meter woody plants relatively quickly, and live up to 15 years, which gives them, especially with age, an almost tree-like appearance"

this may have potential! I am going to kiss you if i ever see you at a SAB meeting LokStok

[gr33ntea]

Ok i found this plant Cestrum elegans, it grows huge. However i have to keep reminding myself that when grafting solanacae may not be as tolerant as cacti (as im experienced with). Although they are in same Family, they may also have to be in the same Genus.
But according to this study of capsicum grafted to tomato it is possible (100% success rate with wedge graft) so it may work http://www.jyi.org/issue/grafting-capsicum-to-tomato-rootstocks/


Guess we gonna have to experiment, damn and the season here in Melbourne is kinda over as well :

[bullit]

first u need to grow ya eggplants for the graft stock and the same with ya root stock

try this also for the root stock Wild tobacco (Solanum mauritianum)

Edited March 28, 2015 by bullit

[gr33ntea]

It grows into a nice tree! But it has poisonous berries? Would this mean the alkaloids could pass into the eggplant?

[El Presidente Hillbillios]

 

[bullit]

 

this is 100% what u do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[El Presidente Hillbillios]

he just wraps the sides of the graft, nothing on top?

Edited March 30, 2015 by El presidente Hillbillios

[gtarman]

I wanna know what stock/system these guys are using!

[gr33ntea]

he just wraps the sides of the graft, nothing on top?

From my experience you must seal the top as well. Most of my moisture loss is from the top. The wood glue when dried leaves some gaps open and loses moisture. My only success i have had is sealing the top with glue tack.

I am gonna try beeswax i bought off ebay soon.

[El Presidente Hillbillios]

maye tamarillo would be a good stock too?