sascacheuan Posted November 27, 2014 Hi. Yesterday I have received a pics of this rare specie from a friend. It is said that natives from North of Chile desert used this plant like coca substitute. Its a hard plant that lives in one of the most hot and dry deserts of the world. My friend told me he got some seeds for me. I would like to share seeds among SAB members for growing it and future bioassays. More information about this plant provided by planthelper, here: http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1079&hl=urmenetea urmenetea atacamensis (compositae)[described aswell as retanilla ephedra(vent.)brogn.] coca del surithis up to 10 cm (4 inches) tall growing plant with violet flowers only exists in thenorth chilean atacma dessert- the dryestdessert in the world- and is called coquilla,"small coca", or coca del suri by the localoasis dwellers.the white-like fury leaves where chewed till recently on its own or with llipta (lime)as coca substitute.this unspectacular plant, is foodsorce of the ostrich like running bird suri.a tea brewed from its leaves is used as remedy against altitude sickness (puna)(refaldunate 1981)chewing leaves produces a numb sensation in the mouth.as well a mild (coca like stimu=lation) could be observed. clearly psychoactive allthough narcotic, than actingas a stimulant are dryed leaves if smoked.(0.3 g is a good dosage)the effects are similar to those of smoking coca leaves.(erythroxylum coca)there are no reports of chemical investigations. I hope you like it ;). 21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doxneed2c-me Posted November 27, 2014 I am very interested a friend of mine told me about this a few weeks ago but didn't know the name. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterboy 2.0 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) http://www.chileflora.com/Florachilena/FloraEnglish/HighResPages/EH1294.htm AbstractA new dithiophene, aphyllocladine, lupeonone, lupeol and apigenin were isolated and identified from Aphyllocladus denticulatus. Lupeyl acetate and lupeol were isolated from Urmenetea atacamensis. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0031942288807088 http://www.plantsystematics.org/imgs/mbonifa/r/Asteraceae_Urmenetea_atacamensis_16660.html (Looks like a different geology setting) Edited November 27, 2014 by waterboy 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berengar Posted November 27, 2014 Looks like a very interesting plant to try and grow, and, perhaps, experience! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cubism Posted November 27, 2014 Sounds very cool. Would definately be keen to try a few seeds sasca 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quarterflesh Posted November 28, 2014 man id love some seeds, sounds intereseting 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterboy 2.0 Posted November 28, 2014 lol...bit of research Coastal desertThese deserts occur in moderately cool to warm areas such as the Nearctic and Neotropical realm. A good example is the Atacama of Chile. The cool winters of coastal deserts are followed by moderately long, warm summers. The average summer temperature ranges from 13-24° C; winter temperatures are 5° C or below. The maximum annual temperature is about 35° C and the minimum is about -4° C. In Chile, the temperature ranges from -2 to 5° C in July and 21-25° C in January. The average rainfall measures 8-13 cm in many areas. The maximum annual precipitation over a long period of years has been 37 cm with a minimum of 5 cm.The soil is fine-textured with a moderate salt content. It is fairly porous with good drainage. Some plants have extensive root systems close to the surface where they can take advantage of any rain showers. http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/exhibits/biomes/deserts.php sounds like my neck of the woods but dry...lol....could pull it off in a greenhouse and water neglect. If theres a stash of seed about I'd be keen to put a few to good use sas 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullit Posted November 28, 2014 awesome , I would kill for some seeds. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt1208 Posted November 28, 2014 oh the things id do for some seed....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doxneed2c-me Posted November 29, 2014 I just the plant structure and flowers look amazing =) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
∂an Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I'll have what he is having :D Edited December 1, 2014 by ∂an 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauve Posted December 1, 2014 Looks like a plant from Mars ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sascacheuan Posted January 15, 2015 Yesterday, I have received seeds from Chile of my friend. Perhaps the first image of urmenetea seeds posted in internet . 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berengar Posted January 16, 2015 I think I peed a little... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onyeka Posted January 17, 2015 Hi mate any spair seeds? Sounds an intresting plant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doxneed2c-me Posted January 20, 2015 I just love the color of the leaves. I know it is likely to do with the soil but it would be fun to see what a different medium would produce. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCube Posted January 20, 2015 I am in a good climate (not my profile one - have several). Was going to put into an automated grower. I am doing a Plant Science major and have access to analysis equipment too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sascacheuan Posted January 22, 2015 I have only 25 viable, the rest of them arent well developed. Polinization problems I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCube Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Here are two journal articles on it. First is the full text of the one posted earlier and second is a review which mentions it as a substitute for coca. I have no idea how to find the reference from the review which is: Victoria Castro R. Ayquina y Toconce: Paisajes Culturales del Norte Arido de Chile 2001 Proyecto Fondecyt 101100682001 A DITHIOPHENE FROM APH YLLOCLADUS DENTICULATUS .pdf Bioactive plants from Argentina and Bolivia.pdf A DITHIOPHENE FROM APH YLLOCLADUS DENTICULATUS .pdf Bioactive plants from Argentina and Bolivia.pdf A DITHIOPHENE FROM APH YLLOCLADUS DENTICULATUS .pdf Bioactive plants from Argentina and Bolivia.pdf Edited January 23, 2015 by IceCube 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
withdrawl clinic Posted May 11, 2018 I missed this thread, because of my absence, so I BUMP IT, in hope that, there are exciting developments. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shonman Posted June 11, 2018 It does seem interesting.....whatever became of this? did the seeds grow? any reports on the plant, or its fx? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Planthunter Posted June 13, 2018 I missed this one too due an abscence of a few years and would be interested to know of any developments. Someone must be growing them in our community by now.. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squidgygoanna Posted July 3, 2018 Just commenting to monitor for any updates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites