swapper Posted May 5, 2014 Ephedra are a genus of spindly succulents that grow in desert conditions in America and Asia. Apparently ONE species is illegal in Australia while others are not illegal. Is my information correct? Can anyone verify? I've had Ephedra sinica seeds seized by customs, so noticing that similar species Ephedra equisetina , e. viridis , e. intermedia are legal in this country, I want to order some of these species but am worried these will also be seized as they are so similar. Has anyone else had a similar experience with these other species, growing or ordering them? Does anyone have seeds to sell or trade for these legal species? Cheers, and look forward to your insights! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slocombe Posted May 5, 2014 I think this question belongs in the legal matters forum. I'd suggest that domestic orders (as a rule of thumb)should always be tried first before even considering importation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swapper Posted May 6, 2014 Thanks Psychonaut; I do genuinely want to obtain some of these species but maybe I will post there with only the legal aspect. I cannot find any evidence of anyone selling any of the Ephedra species in Australia unfortunately, legal or not, but there must be someone out there growing them? Cheers for replying! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applesnail Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) depends on the customs dipshits...i once ordered a permitted ephedra seed species and received letter informing me they considering prosecuting me for importing ephedrine..when the genus was listed as permitted..customs really does do some fucked stuff at times..meanwhile i had received the same seeds many times before inspected by customs and passed on to me with no hassle... Edited May 7, 2014 by applesnail 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucifuge Posted June 19, 2014 I've bought some nevadensis seeds from this website and received them with no trouble. www.allrareherbs.com.au But yeah, I don't know of anyone else in Australia selling ephedra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katu Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) This is a hard question to answer given that you haven't stated a location on your profile, no offence . Also what are you talking about ordering? Live plants, dried herb or seeds? I'm not up on customs laws but with regards to live plants I am only aware of QLD and NSW laws where I believe QLD is a big fuck no for any Ephedra species, whereas NSW the plants themselves are legal to grow. That's the thing with importation, you often have various different laws to consider(customs, state, etc) SAB sometimes has E.gerardiana(live plants) and also stocks both E.gerardiana and E.sinensis seeds. Also i'm sure there would be some members that could help out. Maybe post in the trading thread. Hope this helps Edited June 19, 2014 by katu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slocombe Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Darksoul, all rare herbs was the only vendor I could find with anything in stock. As a side note, don't even bother searching for 'ephedra' on herbalistics. The site is set up to return a special message for anyone searching for it. Look forward to seeing these back on shaman-australis. Edited June 19, 2014 by GHBeer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goodude Posted June 20, 2014 def dont order any ephedra if ur in qld. surely (not certainly) any plant or plant matter than contains a controlled substance, will also be controlled in qld. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quarterflesh Posted June 21, 2014 Yes dont ever do anything, Ever. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swapper Posted June 22, 2014 This is a hard question to answer given that you haven't stated a location on your profile, no offence . Also what are you talking about ordering? Live plants, dried herb or seeds? I'm not up on customs laws but with regards to live plants I am only aware of QLD and NSW laws where I believe QLD is a big fuck no for any Ephedra species, whereas NSW the plants themselves are legal to grow. That's the thing with importation, you often have various different laws to consider(customs, state, etc) SAB sometimes has E.gerardiana(live plants) and also stocks both E.gerardiana and E.sinensis seeds. Also i'm sure there would be some members that could help out. Maybe post in the trading thread. Hope this helps Thanks a lot katu for all the info ... never heard of E.gerardiana before! I'm on Mornington Peninsula southeast of Melbourne near the bay so pretty mild winters, and it was just seed I tried to order. What is SAB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psylocke Posted June 22, 2014 SAB = Shaman australis botanicals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
in_spirit Posted June 23, 2014 http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/shop/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
endorfinder Posted June 27, 2014 I have never had a problem importing any of the daff/icon approved ephedra seeds into Australia (viridis, nev, etc). Sinica is not illegal (as seed) but is not a permitted import. You are best off trying to source other species locally, although they're not the easiest to come by as eph rarely flowers in our conditions. Living in qld I can no longer grow it sadly Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
endorfinder Posted June 27, 2014 I have never had a problem importing any of the daff/icon approved ephedra seeds into Australia (viridis, nev, etc). Sinica is not illegal (as seed) but is not a permitted import. You are best off trying to source other species locally, although they're not the easiest to come by as eph rarely flowers in our conditions. Living in qld I can no longer grow any species sadly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
