Francois le Danque Posted April 3, 2014 Hey friends I foolishly acquired a lop/trich graft without knowing how to look after it, and when i had no free time to treat it properly. Now of course, the trich has rotted and I am desperately trying to save the lop/head. There are also a lot of pups on the head. I have a couple of very strong/healthy trichs, and figured my best bet would be to put the main head on one and the pups on a couple of others, by cutting the head off the rotten trich and regrafting. I already left the poor thing for weeks, i have been extremely negligent in this regard and i want to get it sorted TODAY, before any further damage occurs due to my incompetence. Standing by, please advise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolname Posted April 3, 2014 They are pretty tough plants, so being left for a few weeks shouldnt be a problem aslong as they are kept dry. Just make sure you remove all of the old root stock. You could either regraft the whole head with the pups still attached, remove the pups and graft them seperately or grow on their own roots or even just grow the whole lot on its own roots. It up to you. Good luck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watertrade Posted April 3, 2014 could you cut the trich back to healthy flesh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etherealdrifter Posted April 3, 2014 look i'm no cacto experto franky but a pic would help make your problem easier for the more elder kaktoose expertos amongst this tribe to help sort a solution out for ya. personally, i'd degraft now save the head. cut ff the rotten meat and use sulphur powder to help the rot or just let it heal if it looks like you removed most of the mushy cacatose flesh. let it heal/dry then go from there. ;( un sheath your ss lance and get to it boy O. some might suggest to clean cut then regraft it to a suitable host..... but i'd wait(i'm always a slow mover ) until it healed. Overkill? dunno, that's just me. flame bring flame to me flame. suppose it all depends on how precious your head is to you. everybody values special little kaktooses, they don't even need to be some big named clone or some shit like that - it all depends how much you value this little grafted head of yours. x 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted April 3, 2014 Hi Frank, yes please post some pics. I have a terrible Imagination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 3, 2014 okay all so what has happened is: I removed the whole head, pups n all. The stock was completely rotten, beyond repair i am sure. I grafted 2/4 pups onto a bridgey (thanks cat ) and the big head with two remaining pups was stuck onto a PC pach. I held them down with old pantyhose (thanks mum) and some hair ties i no longer need since i got Sean the other day. I will take pics now and try to figure out how to get them online, i'm sorry all but my new phone is very tricky to use (i haven't learnt how to upload pictures yet). Thankyou all for your advice and as usual, more importantly, your patience. I am a doctor with none. Will keep posted! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Okay all, time for another update. I successfully grafted the scion onto a new stock, and it took well. I used the pantyhose-stretched-over technique. However! I attempted to remove the dressing too soon, and in my clumsiness, the stocking pulled the head off !! I tried sticking it back on, but today I saw that it has not connected. In between, on the wounds of both the stem and the head, is a red discolouration. I am off to get pictures, this time i will upload them. I have pics of the first one that worked, and i am about to photograph the current situation. I hope there is a way for me to save it again. Yes, I am bad at cacti . All advice welcomed. edit: does anyone know how to get eyephone photos up?? god dammit.. Edited April 21, 2014 by Frank leDank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted April 21, 2014 HI Frank, You can't be that bad with cacti, you got it to work once , maybe you can put it down to being clumsy . You will have to re-cut your scion & stock & put them back together, make sure you cut back past the red/orange colour as this will most likely be the start of infection/rot. Good luck mate. Cheers Jox 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 21, 2014 Awesome, thanks joxxy. That is what i was planning, the hard part seemingly is that the head's cut is tucked under, if you know what i mean. Should i cut the loph straight across, or try to scoop out ? not sure if that makes sense, still trying to get the computer to recognise my phone so i can show yuz the pix! dang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 21, 2014 as you can see from my excellent paint diagram, the cut isn't flat across. ya getme?? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singult Posted April 21, 2014 Wow, the camera on your iphone is shoddy. I would get that checked out! In all seriousness, wouldnt a clean, straight across cut on the scion mean it's more likely to take, combat rot and survive? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djmattz0r Posted April 21, 2014 That red rot is no bueno, I have also had the misfortune of accidentally knocking off the scion and having to regraft it or having to regraft failures so don't stress too much I would cut off all the red rot possible to expose healthy flesh and rejoin them, make sure you align those vascular cores! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 21, 2014 Thanks heaps, team. I shall get right on that! Hopefully eventually there will be pix, and healthy cacti all round. Frankly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted April 22, 2014 Just connect your phone to a wifi connection and get on the forum through your phone and upload the pictures. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I would rather not share my intimate details via the phone's metadata attached to every photo i take with it, actually... that being said, here are some photos i managed to upload by other means, of my new grafts. As you can see, i put the pups on separate trichs, and the main scion back onto it's #2 graft, after removing the red rot! Edited April 23, 2014 by Franke von Danke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philocacti Posted April 23, 2014 I would rather not share my intimate details via the phone's metadata attached to every photo i take with it, actually... Shit.... Now you got me all paranoid. I didn't know about that Good luck with your grafts 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Philocacti, if you use Firefox, just get yourself one of these Exif Data Add-Ons to see what Data is on your Images. If you want to get rid of the Exif Data, just re-save the Image without the exif Data. I use Irfan View, and there´s a checkbox that you can unselect if you want to leave the exif data behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
