T. Pachanoi - Lowes - Thoughts?

magical9 · February 8, 2014

So i was at lowes and saw this T. Pachanoi with longer spines than what ive seen on PC pedro and the new spines are black/dark colored. They also had a San Pedro with regular short spines and then 3 inch spines... is that normal? Maybe a cross? (i didnt buy that one though) I decided to grab the one that had longer and dark spines. What do you guys think? is it just a standard PC clone or maybe some sort of cross or something special?

Philocacti · February 8, 2014

Doesn't look PC to me nor does it represent it ;)

ballzac · February 8, 2014

I've seen these referred to as "short spined peruvianus", though it's probably more closely related to the 'true' pachanoi than to other peruvianus. It's a spectrum, and I don't think you can get a definitive answer, but it's definitely got some differences that distinguish it from things like "yowie".

It's definitely not PC.

magical9 · February 9, 2014

wow this makes me very happy to hear. somthing was calling me to look at the cacti at LOWES of all places while i was looking for clay pots. I just kept looking and finally found this guy and knew somthing was unique about it.

Edited February 9, 2014 by magical9

magical9 · February 9, 2014

check out these pics of the longer spined "San Pedro" i found at lowes. I would have bought it as well but it was a little pricey.. 60$

M S Smith · February 9, 2014

Definately not a PC, and not the specific clone that is regarded at the "short spined T. peruvianus," which is really just a particular and somewhat distict T. pachanoi (I've discussed that a length multiple times in the past). Your plant doesn't look at all outside the range of T. pachanoi, but that doesn't exclude it having a mixed parentage.

~Michael~

M S Smith · February 9, 2014

The plant in those pictures immediately above bear a great deal of similarity to the monstrose form of the short spined T. peruvianus, long spines and all. They clearly need more sun though.

~Michael~

magical9 · February 9, 2014

The plant in those pictures immediately above bear a great deal of similarity to the monstrose form of the short spined T. peruvianus, long spines and all. They clearly need more sun though.

~Michael~

interesting.. i wonder if i should go back and get it. is this a particularly hard to find specimen?

hostilis · February 9, 2014

Looks like there's a couple monstrose ones there. Picture #3 in post #5. Beautiful plants! I wouldn't have suspected lowes to carry non pc trichocereus pachanoi! It makes sense that they would have a better variety in your area though.

Edited February 9, 2014 by hostilis

EthnoGuy85 · February 9, 2014

I've got the same semi monstrose pachanoi via lowe's $20 for it and a PC pach in the same pot

zelly · February 9, 2014

Interesting how the potting soil has shrunk back from the rim of the pot as well as the columns.

And dont some of the columns look brownish below the soil line where the potting soil has shrunk back? Gotta wonder about the overall health of the roots etc, or if they're fully rooted.

but yeah, run back there & buy them all, and ask Lowes who their cacti wholesale vendor is.....

J Smith · February 9, 2014

I hope it was 50% off... AT LOWES

hostilis · February 9, 2014

There should be a tag on the pot with a website you can go to. They usually are wholesale dealers. You should DEFINITELY check them out! I would love to get ahold of some of those.

Evil Genius · February 9, 2014

I think it´s a KK339 Pachanoi.

EthnoGuy85 · February 9, 2014

Lowe's gets supplied by Altman Plants for cacti and succulents. They are very hit and miss for Tricho's tho other than grandiflorus hybrids.

And Altman's labeling sucks I'm sure they're all just listed as San Pedro-Trichocereus pachanoi

Edited February 9, 2014 by EthnoGuy85

magical9 · February 9, 2014

Lowe's gets supplied by Altman Plants for cacti and succulents. They are very hit and miss for Tricho's tho other than grandiflorus hybrids.

And Altman's labeling sucks I'm sure they're all just listed as San Pedro-Trichocereus pachanoi

i believe you are correct. All i saw was "San Pedro" and Trichocereus Grandiflorus. That would make sense about the altman supplier.

There should be a tag on the pot with a website you can go to. They usually are wholesale dealers. You should DEFINITELY check them out! I would love to get ahold of some of those.

Im going back today to possibly buy that monstrose ;)

magical9 · February 9, 2014

alright my tax return was burning a hole in my pocket so...went back to lowes and got 2 of those cacti. One of which is the monstrose/long spined. The other looked to be legit T. Pachanoi as well so i grabbed it.