Is Yowie the same as the macrogonus Sausage plant?

[nitrogen]

Ok I'm a little confused now - the seeds I got a few years ago were T. bridgesii v. "Bruce" x T. macrogonus v. "Sausage" - that much I know. But then I'm reading where people are saying Yowie is the same clone - is this the case?

On the Tricho Serious website he has Sausage as a bridgesii (though acknowledges it could be one of several species, and has it separate from Yowie which he lists as pachanoi. Can anyone clear this up?

http://trichoseriousethnobotany.blogspot.com/search/label/Trichocereus%20Bridgesii%20Lageniformis%20Sausage%20Plant

[Stillman]

sausage is different. Yowie is a pachanoi

[tripsis]

Yowie is a pachanoi with two spines per areole, much like SS02 if I'm not mistaken.

Sausage is a little ambiguous as to what it actually is. It was grown from seed labelled as T. bridgesii by Fields back around 30s, but no one would actually consider it a bridgesii. Macrogonus? Well, what does that even mean? I would say it's probably a peruvianus.

[Hellonasty]

Nitrogen,

I believe the aussie sausage (sorry couldn't resist) is a Peruvianus. I totally agree with tripsis regarding Macrogonus ??, I believe it is just a mislabeling at some point of a Peruvianus and to me the name means nothing.

Tripsis,

SS02 was originally in the Bridgesii lineage, you may have spotted a hybid with SS02 in the mix somewhere, there are heaps of them floating around. Check out the Sacred Succulents website for clarification.

Edited November 13, 2013 by Hellonasty

[tripsis]

Yes, I know SS02 is a bridgesii HN. I meant that both Yowie and SS02 have similar distinctive spination. I was not implying they are the same species.

Edited November 13, 2013 by tripsis

[tripsis]

Pretty sure this is Nitro's photo:

SS02

[tripsis]

As a comparison for Nitrogen, here's Yowie.

[2XB]

^^^Yowies look cool

Edited November 13, 2013 by doublebenno

[GoOnThen]

Sausage.

Cheers

Got

[cactuscarl]

I thought sausage wasn't a clone but referred to plants that terminate at the end of each season and reshoot at the top

[GoOnThen]

The name comes from its terminating habit but my understanding was the main clone referred to as the sausage came from the plant I posted. I believe there is also a couple of other big plants on the east coast that look like they are the same as well.

There is also a West Aussie clone that terminates as well but it is unknown if it is the same clone. From my observations I originally thought it could be a different clone but now I am seeing new growth I would think it is the same as the east coast clone

Thread on the WA clone http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20324

This is some pics of my WA clones

These are both from the same cutting

This is the same clone sourced from another person.

Cheers

Got

[Hellonasty]

That's good info GOT, thanks.

Tripsis, sorry mate I misunderstood your post, at least everyone is on the same page now... Well most of us

[2XB]

I have a peru that has sausaged labelled as kk something.. it doesnt sausage every growing season though... seemingly as it feels like it...

[cactuscarl]

Those first two pics have very different spines to each other how sure are you they are a clone?

[GoOnThen]

When I posted the pics I did doubt myself and I will check I haven't mixed the pics up. Saying that I am still 90% positive by the position of the plant and the old growth that they are the same clone as I cut the tip cutting myself. The tip cut has been kept in a lot dryer and less sunny position than the other one which is down with my other Trichs.

Cheers

Got

[DiscoStu]

i have a yowie, and a sausage plant. and they are most definitely not the same plant.

[nitrogen]

Right on - so it looks like I got a cross with the sausage plant in it - have not seen any terminating growth so far with my Bruce x Sausage hybrids - only have 5 left though, not sure about the other dozen.. One friend of mine says his seedling is doing the monstrose thing, as is one of mine - but that's a Bruce trait..