tizocAu Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Started getting this wierd light yellow blotch on it.. its been recently cut what do you guys think...I was told some sort of peruvianus. ......? The spines are dark red and it looks a little bruised. But I have a ffeling this one will make it. Edited August 28, 2013 by tizoc4u 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bogfrog Posted August 28, 2013 Pretty. It may have been dropped by the previous owner. It does look okay though. Peruvianus sounds about right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted August 28, 2013 Yes very much similar to some of my peruvianus plants. It looks fine, you could use it for cricket practice and still get the prick to grow ;) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 qualia Posted August 28, 2013 has it been in the post (i.e. box/dark) for a while? probably just s little stress from being cut and transported? it'll be fine no worries, every season i become more aware of just how much torture trichs can handle. i suppose a human equivalent is having all your limbs cut off at once contracting gangrene and being starved for 6 months actually humans seems pretty weak in comparison 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 zelly Posted August 28, 2013 doesn't look like a tricho to me, spines are all wrong, esp at the tip. way to heavy in the spine department, but what the hell would i know. and such a mottled coloration... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 upside Posted August 28, 2013 The colour of the spines remind me of scopulicola,, the ribs look are surely like a trich. Stressed yet looks beautiful! The mottled blues and greens mmmm haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 quarterflesh Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) blert Edited August 28, 2013 by quarterflesh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Evil Genius Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Hi Guys, it looks like the Trichocereus Santaensis from the Huntingtons. In Trouts San Pedro book is one on Page 208. I agree with Zelly that it looks freakish and is very unlike a typical Peruvianus but i cannot come up with a better match. I guess this would be Identified as Trichocereus Peruvianus under current Taxonomy, despite its felted areoles and such. bye Eg Edited August 28, 2013 by Evil Genius 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 qualia Posted August 28, 2013 i just had a look at my mg red spine peruvianus and the spines are black (to grey), although it has been sitting there all winter, but the spines aren't totally dissimilar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Evil Genius Posted August 28, 2013 Hi Qualia, pretty sure Red Spine Peruvianus is synonymous with Trichocereus Santaensis. Got any pics? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 qualia Posted August 28, 2013 i can, not tonight, my camera will charge and i'll get back tomorrow cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Getafix Posted August 28, 2013 I also have a Medicine Garden Red Spine, new spines look red on mine, will take pics tomorrow. Getafix 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 M S Smith Posted August 28, 2013 Pretty plant, my wager is on some sort of mutt between T. bridgesii and T. peruvianus types. ~Michael~ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Optimystic Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) I had to look up Cipocereus Bradei pics to rule that out! I agree I think its a pretty mutt of some sorts... but who knows maybe in your conditions it could turn out looking crazy or even very plain... sorta looks peruvianoid... I betcha those spines will get longer where you are at.. where was it growing at before? looks to me like the tip got banged up during the trip... that happens on every so many plants that get shipped in a box, and I think its nearly impossible to avoid... i've seen it where someone had done a tremendous job of packing a cactus snug and tight in some bubble wrap with alot of padding and still the tip managed to get a little bruised on the packing peanuts... it'll grow out of that easy just let it dry up... you can sprinkle some sulfur powder on it but maybe not even necessary... Im kinda glad it happened on one of my plants I got this year cause it has a marker telling me just how fast she's been growing or maybe thats just camera glare? at any rate, the yellow will green up really fast in bright enough conditions... Edited August 28, 2013 by Spine Collector 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 tizocAu Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) THANKS, she comes from florida, but that's like LA weather, im in the vague Mojave. bret of the Lothian says she looks like los gentiles, who knows, the owner thought the same tting after I gave him the link to trouts site... he bought it as some odd ball peruvianus ....thanks for all the feedback..... Edited August 28, 2013 by tizoc4u Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 tizocAu Posted August 28, 2013 mutts are thumbs up.... if the spinage is wrong maybe its because it fell at the tip, the bruising gives it away......but that's the bes night pics I could take, ill take a photo shoot of it in the right light angle today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Optimystic Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) here's one I got said to be Los Gentiles from seed.... Looks almost identical to one I got said to be Mesa Garden Pachanoi from seed... i've been thinking of it being more on the lines of a naturalized/artificialized mutt, or interemediary eh The only difference in the Gentiles and the MG Pach seeming to be the color of spines... both look a little Juvenile tho, this LG only starting to put out a more mature looking tip.. they do well in the extreme heat! Once you grow from seed, you realize that the spine color can vary alot in the same batch of seeds... so spine color has little to do with anything on trichos imo... Icaros seedlings can have blonde or red spines and I think its the same with other Perus and even bridgesiis... and well, the reds can sometimes fade to orange or black or dark brown... the blondes anywhere from honey brown to dark brown or grey.. heres the pic.. I have to agree with Brett... looks alot alike... Good eye Mr. Lothian!Without and With flash Edited August 28, 2013 by Spine Collector 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 tizocAu Posted August 28, 2013 The guy w Hi Qualia, pretty sure Red Spine Peruvianus is synonymous with Trichocereus Santaensis. Got any pics? the person who send it to me thinks its a santaensis also, only after seeing trouts notes though. He bought em as peruvianus, which sounds reasonable. Thanks u all for your feedback and opinions. !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 M S Smith Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) The ribs and tip look similar to T. bridgesii to me, but the spine formation definitely reminds me of T. peruvianus. I wouldn't lean towards T. santaensis myself regardless of the red to blackish spines. ~Michael~ Edited August 28, 2013 by M S Smith 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 tizocAu Posted August 29, 2013 I personally would say los gentiles... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Optimystic Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) MS has a point (no pun intended) the tip does sorta remind me of bridgesii... in fact... now im more reminded of a Peru x Bridge i've got, than I am the Los Gentiles! definitely alot skinnier plant than a regular peruvianus, more of a bridgesii hue but Peruvianus type spinage.. ironically that one has really dark spines too with a pretty blue skin... I guess it could be either or neither, in other words, maybe a similar cross or maybe not... thats my clearest guess, i guess ... I sorta excluded bridgesii at first look, but after second thought I think MS might be on the money or closest to it my only good pics of that plant are a year old cause she's etoliated and has barely grown all year Its the one on the left... really its the color that has me considering bridgesii more than the tip Edited August 29, 2013 by Spine Collector Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 AndyAmine. Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Well, Ill throw in my 2c, to me it looks like it was kept in the dark for a period.Probabaly while was dormant, and has started to grow again chewoing through its chlorophyll levels? Edited August 29, 2013 by AndyAmine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 qualia Posted August 29, 2013 i spose in the cold light of day they don't look that black, just dark red 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Evil Genius Posted August 29, 2013 Hi Qualia, nice plant! Love the reddish spination. Pretty sure back in the days, these would have been named Sanataensis. Today, i guess we should call them Peruvians. bye Eg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 M S Smith Posted August 29, 2013 I'm not really sure of the necessity to somewhat unquestioningly consider plants with reddish spines T. santaensis, but anyhow, here's my own T. santaensis from the Huntington Botanical once again. ~Michael~ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Evil Genius Posted August 29, 2013 Hi Michael, very nice Spine Coloration! Totally agree that this doesnt justify making a Species for them. If i remember correctly, it was one of the Plants that was named during the time when Backeberg and Ritter were trying to outsmart each other by making up new species left and right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Started getting this wierd light yellow blotch on it.. its been recently cut what do you guys think...I was told some sort of peruvianus. ......? The spines are dark red and it looks a little bruised. But I have a ffeling this one will make it.
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