Skulking Lurker Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Hell all, I'm glad to have found this place as many of the topics being discussed are of much interest to me. I hope to both gain some knowledge, and be of some help in the future.But first, I am looking for Santalum Album nuts. For some reason I'm finding this difficult. I'm currently growing S. Spicatum, but want to try the tropical S. Album. Any responses appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulking Lurker Posted February 26, 2003 Author Share Posted February 26, 2003 That was meant to be Hello all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cadaver Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 welcome to the forums, lurker! u chose the least visited section to launch a hello in, i wish evrone was more into natives. do u have any of the santalum seeds for trade? sorry can't help with the album though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulking Lurker Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 I do have a number of Santalum Acuminatum that I can trade. They are better known as Quandongs. I have the prized Nectarbrook Cultivar that has superior fruiting characteristics to 'bush' varieties.I am currently still accumulating more Santalum Spicatum.Santalum Album is what I'm interested in acquiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Dunkel Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 How easy are they to grow? Santalums are root parasites aren't they? Do you sprout the seeds and plant them in with a Hakea or something.Do they strictly require desert type climates or will a Melbourne climate suffice if you give them good drainage and a sunny/warm spot?Good to see some action in here again E D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulking Lurker Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 How easy are they to grow? Santalums are root parasites aren't they? Yes they are. Not that difficult once germination has been mastered, as they are not particularly fussy as to the host species.Do you sprout the seeds and plant them in with a Hakea or something.Currently, I use myoporum parvifolium as the seedling's host, then transplant out and use either olives, pistachio, or acacia as secondary hosts. Most native species are ok.Do they strictly require desert type climates or will a Melbourne climate suffice if you give them good drainage and a sunny/warm spot?They now grow in desert type situations, only because of over-collection and clearing of the better lands. Before this happened, they were extremely common, and will grow almost anywhere, including Melbourne. Drought and frost tolerent, they thrive given conditions nicer than a desert.Good to see some action in here againObviously been a bit quiet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripitaka Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 (edited) Hello to you skulking, Have some Album that I managed to source but have not had the opportunity so far as to try germinating them, would be happy to share what I have and perhaps you could grow some of the seed out for me as part of the trade?email me privately and we will set something up Edited July 31, 2008 by Tripitaka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Dunkel Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 S L. Is it too late to propagate the Santalum Acuminatum now?Have you got enough for a non-Santalum album trade?Any other Santalum species? Santalum spicatum, S.lanceolatum, S. murrayanum etc..Here are some nice pages: http://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/interns-2002/sa...acuminatum.html http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/APOL7/sep97-1.htmlI seem to have answered on of my own questions quote:The optimum temperature for germination is 15° C so winter is the best time to sow. [ 03. March 2003, 16:42: Message edited by: Ed Dunkel ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torsten Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 There's a 3m high Santalum album at Mt Coot tha botanic Gardens. It is not near any tree, so unlikely to be parasitic. Kinda confused me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Dunkel Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 They can be parasitic with a hoste of different plants, shrubs, ground covers grasses. All at the same time. Their roots can search out for at least 10 meters.Was there anything like that around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulking Lurker Posted March 4, 2003 Author Share Posted March 4, 2003 S L. Is it too late to propagate the Santalum Acuminatum now?I don't believe so.Have you got enough for a non-Santalum album trade?I think so.Any other Santalum species? Santalum spicatum, S.lanceolatum, S. murrayanum etc..I could relinquish a few S. spicatum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torsten Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Ed, yeah, plenty of groundcovers around. Trees about 15-25m away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulking Lurker Posted April 3, 2003 Author Share Posted April 3, 2003 Just obtained a number of S. album nuts.I now have some for swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 All Perth people go to the CALM science division in bentley - a small white building at the back of the masive admin complex (mmm see a problem there)They have several mature S album that produce quite a lot of seed each year (season?)word is soaking in gibberilic acid for 24hours before planting (relatively fresh seed) gives up to 95% germ ratesif not there are always volunteer seedlings around the basetransplant into a pot with a host plant and keep moist until takensuccess rate not huge but OKS album is a strong outcrosser i belief so try an source plants from different placesI think this species is vastly underrated as a crop for northern australia in the savannah sections - it is quite fast growing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Dunkel Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Were would one conveniently get a hold of some gibberilic acid?I guess the gibberilic acid trick would work with the other native santalums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mescalito Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Any GOOD hydro shop will have it, it's used to dip clones in(for new root growth) <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_smile.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Dunkel Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 A S. spicatum seed came up yesterday. I cracked the seeds and soaked it. Placed outside in a sandy mix and several weeks later it pops a root down. The Quandong seeds is still siting there tho' I'm waiting for some gibberilic acid, maybe that will get it going.Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklight Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 What concentration is GA3 used at for promoting germination in seedlings? Can't recall- is there any info on the packs any of youse guys got out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cadaver Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 (edited) I got some lovely bodo man love from the jungle to the beach Edited April 19, 2007 by darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklight Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 I was wondering about that... why anyone would want leggy plants was a mystery but then so are the lures of pot, speaking purely personally :-)The other thing GA3 has been used for was to induce fertilisation of non-compatible hybrid varieties in some ornamental spp- the mechanism remains undiscovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cadaver Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Maybe its like giving two incompatible people alcohol. This would make fertilisation easier. Maybe it just gets them drunk and they don't care who they mate with :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 http://www.shaman-australis.com/publicpics...andalflower.jpgFrom CALM science buildingAlbum is native from India to Timor but has been massively overharvested. It has been an item of trade for centuries.This is S album and it is native to the dry tropics where it can form large stands. I dont think it likes frostAustralian sandalwood is S spicatum which grows in the semi-arid region. As has been said it CAN grow elsewhere but researchg in WA suggests areas with more than 500mm rainfall get much faster growth but much lower oil content.In the 500mm belt it can be harvested in as little as 12 years while desert grown trees can take anything up to 80 years.Coming from the deserts it is tolerant of drought, extremes of hot and cold, im not sure of salinity.In WA it generally like acacia accuminata the raspberry jam wattleAs it was once a keystone species for the semiarid lands of australia it should really be encouraged as part of any shelter belting and reveg work on farms.Since it disappeared a number of mammals like the stick nest rat disappeared with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palma Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 As it was once a keystone species for the semiarid lands of australia it should really be encouraged as part of any shelter belting and reveg work on farms.YES! And I love it since I know it!I am in a more or less 500mm area... I want to reveg!Australian santalwood is spicatum, acuminatum, or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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