Trevyn Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Pic 1 was just labeled "Bridgesii" so no idea if it's from the grower's seed, a clone he picked up, or just something he got in trade. | Number 7 is a pup of T. Peruvianus cv. "Maldonado" though some people call Maldonado a pachanoi. It branches like crazy throwing pups all over the place. Once you get one, you can't get rid of it's offspring fast enough. Here they are again with labels this time. Generic T. Bridgesii: Generic T. Bridgesii: T. Pachanoi var. Dave Turner: T. Peruvianus collected in Matucana Peru: T. Bridgesii var. Psycho0: Yet another generic T. Bridgesii: T. Peruvianus (or pachanoi depending on your point of view) var. Maldonado: Getting sick of the Generic T. Bridgesii yet? T. Macrogonus RS0004: Update: Two have rooted already. Edited October 22, 2016 by Trevyn 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevyn Posted October 22, 2016 Oh wow. That DOES look like a Bogan, ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ . Good eye. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ambient Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) Another load on the move. Edited October 23, 2016 by Ambient 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) did many things,some repottings and all, along taking some cuttings of pachanoi crest off some mother plants and took some shots imagur Edited October 23, 2016 by sagiXsagi 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakazoid Posted October 26, 2016 before..... after, yay. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nrivers Posted November 6, 2016 Made this rig up today to harden of the seedlings. Has shade cloth 1/3, two layers fly screen 1/3 and just fly screen last third. Also have been using milk crates I find, with fly screen on top. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 6, 2016 manually killing snails to reduce their population on my roof, the bastards still coming 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 8, 2016 Heyas, I just thought I'd share with you guys a little bit of tech I came up with over the weekend. I was cussing out the snail army that I could see amassing in lieu of a major assault and my mate Ambient after sighing at my dedication to not using lethal force, mentioned they hate salt. So while I have taken precepts against harming all beings, I figured I'd take a leaf out of the book of America's finest. Lo and behold the Wall. It consists of a cardboard ring, double sided tape and a hefty addition of sodium chloride. Note: I made it large enough to easily and quickly remove for ease of access access to provide the regular fertilising and watering regime. They were hitting this psycho0 up every few days. Since the wall was constructed, it has been a week without nibbles. I will continue to monitor and if effective, construct about 15 more for a total cost of about $8. I can see this perhaps being an issue if it was rainy, however summer is coming in WA so for now it is a go. On another note I've been trying my hand at grafting and have had a nifty idea for maintaining significant consistent downforce on grafts: Successful or not, it will definitely be my choice over tape in the future. Tension may be adjusted via tying an alpine butterfly or whatever knot you can think of to reduce length prior to application, however this was seemingly the perfect height. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainGoat Posted November 8, 2016 @Mapacho dude, have you tried using a bit of stocking? It is without comparison for small scions, it's nearly too good to be true... you can cut the toe off one, pull it down over the stock and it'll stick to the spines of the stock... you can then cut lengths of the legs and tie a knot in one end... absolute gold! I'm yet to hit on a similarly perfect method for longer length scions yet though, if anyone has one... I currently still use the stocking method, but tie a rubber band around the bottom of the stock on the outside of the stocking, before attaching... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 8, 2016 @MountainGoat Ok..that does sound really good, you'd get a bunch of grafts out of one pair too haha. I'll definitely give it a shot, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Boy I have too many pots for anything... The most succesful hunt was directly afterwards a rain , I found them outside their shells, and on the stems, many of them had been climbing up tricho stems... but mostly, the damage was in last years mandrakes, they seem to have a taste for mandrake, while they only chew a bit in tender trichocerei tips... The fact I seldom find a big one anymore seems a part success... sometimes I find sings of their "spit" , that transparent web-like veil , on very spiny cacti, and I am like what the fuck is it doing on the spines?? these signs help me spot them.. oh well, we'll see Edited November 8, 2016 by sagiXsagi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 8, 2016 @sagiXsagi yeah they have no trouble with navigating spiny cacti. You could always protect just a few, but why do you not use pellets if waging war is no concern? I notice the bob tails (lizards) congregate around my pots as they enjoy the easy pickings. Perhaps you could appropriate a couple of pet iguanas haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Change Posted November 9, 2016 Hey @Mapacho Im having similar snail issues to your own, after considering your idea im a little worried about rain dissolving the salt on the cardboard then washing it into the pots. The snails at my place seem most active when its been raining for a few days. Ive been told snails wont cross copper wire, not sure how valid this idea is either but ill give it a test sometime this month. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 9, 2016 @Change yep understandable. i have taken mine off today as there are showers forecast. i originally tried the copper strips you can get from bunnings, they were very thin, almost paperlike and the snails just kept marching. Watching them it seemed to have no effect. Perhaps thick diameter strands of wire would be better, I don`t know. I am pondering if there is another substance that would be less soluble and benign for the soil. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 10, 2016 copper wire, as well as a shallow plate of beer is often suggested for snails. mapacho> I very rarely use chemicals, but I would start a war if I had a huge problem. Well, last year, the mandrakes leaves were fucked, still I had the most seeds and largest seeds than any other year. I will look up theze pellets.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted November 11, 2016 On 06/11/2016 at 3:39 PM, sagiXsagi said: manually killing snails to reduce their population on my roof, the bastards still coming On 08/11/2016 at 8:15 AM, Mapacho said: Heyas, I just thought I'd share with you guys a little bit of tech I came up with over the weekend. I was cussing out the snail army that I could see amassing in lieu of a major assault and my mate Ambient after sighing at my dedication to not using lethal force, mentioned they hate salt. So while I have taken precepts against harming all beings, I figured I'd take a leaf out of the book of America's finest. Lo and behold the Wall. It consists of a cardboard ring, double sided tape and a hefty addition of sodium chloride. Note: I made it large enough to easily and quickly remove for ease of access access to provide the regular fertilising and watering regime. They were hitting this psycho0 up every few days. Since the wall was constructed, it has been a week without nibbles. I will continue to monitor and if effective, construct about 15 more for a total cost of about $8. I can see this perhaps being an issue if it was rainy, however summer is coming in WA so for now it is a go. On another note I've been trying my hand at grafting and have had a nifty idea for maintaining significant consistent downforce on grafts: Successful or not, it will definitely be my choice over tape in the future. Tension may be adjusted via tying an alpine butterfly or whatever knot you can think of to reduce length prior to application, however this was seemingly the perfect height. i was gna say the 2 strips of paralel copper wire/tape with just enough gap for the snail/slug to "make the circuit"and get zapped by apparently static electricity enough to discourage them without killing them but was beaten to it , .. however there's another method which is real good in my experience so far but depends on the rain not washing them away or coating them in mud splash... and that's crushed egg shells... they dont like walking on them making em "cross the rails" of an electricity train track sounds fun but ive never had a chance to try it but yeah the electric current (mild) is apparently the force behind the copper wire method as far as my research gleamed 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) means saving all ya egg shells from the kitchen preferably somewhere they can stink away to their hearts content without annoying the household tho ... :3 -easier crushed and sprinkled when dried btw and obviously a good hand cleanse afterward :3 Edited November 11, 2016 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ salmonella 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) 20 hours ago, sagiXsagi said: copper wire, as well as a shallow plate of beer is often suggested for snails. mapacho> I very rarely use chemicals, but I would start a war if I had a huge problem. Well, last year, the mandrakes leaves were fucked, still I had the most seeds and largest seeds than any other year. I will look up theze pellets.. pellets kill the frogs n toads that munch the molluscs later but not the molluscs much themselves ... at least over here anyways can't be dissn ole tlaloc's kin man ;) also beer traps can be used with cider and other sweet or boozy liquidstoo but need changing regularly and can trap other nicer critters regrettably, also attract flies pretty bad .. if they might be a problem Edited November 11, 2016 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) holy shit man you're a genius! I'm gonna use the double sided tape WITH crushed egg shells instead of salt...should be impassable and harmless to the soil! Fuck yeah I am stoked. Edited November 11, 2016 by Mapacho 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted November 11, 2016 too kind, i'ze not worthy :3 *was also scared of the salt making it's way to your substrate and rooties too* eggs are a good source of protein if they're decent eggs and if you're not a vegbo ...mmm duck eggs are pretty spesh too ... hope it makes the difference man! maybe the stuff can be bought already sterilized? takes a while to gather enough eggshells but if the main spot is small that should be pretty/fairly rapidly achievable good luck ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 11, 2016 Yeah salt is too scary I agree. I wonder if a really coarse grade sandpaper would deter them. I might try some thick copper wire one one, egg shells on another, and sandpaper on one and report back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted November 11, 2016 yeah man it's fun to get creative and make cool stuff that's functional and hmm.. i fancy digging a toad and fishy moat but would probably just be adding a whole load of new snail species ... oh yeah then there's the tiny problem that neighbours houses are in the way of a prospective moat too :3 however i can lay a salt "perimeter moat" here for use though :3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterboy 2.0 Posted November 11, 2016 tape like this might work as well http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30mmx20m-Adhesive-Copper-Foil-Tape-EMI-Shielding-Guitar-Slug-and-Snail-Barrier-/361289993996?hash=item541e8fcf0c:g:dl0AAOSwstxVSwSp 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mapacho Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) @waterboy 2.0 I have tried that stuff and it didn't work. After some reading and youtubing it seems that egg shells and copper are ineffective (vids show them going straight over it.) edit: abrasives are out they dont give a single slimy fuck. Electric current and salt seem the only effective non-lethal method.. Lol this guy makes slug schematics its awesome. UNfortunately my cacti aren't in raised beds and fk doing this for every pot. Maybe cacti are meat to be chewed. He says one battery lasts the whole season rain hail shine...maybe it is worth it on some special specimens...I'll put something up if I try it. Edited November 11, 2016 by Mapacho 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterboy 2.0 Posted November 12, 2016 I've had excellent success keeping them outta citrus with wide copper bands of thin plate copper round the trunk, havent done it for pots though. But its keep them from climbing up into the canopy and smashing flowers and young foliage. never had cacti hit by slugs and snails before could be that the pots sit on gravel, its really only vegies and herbacous stuff I've had to defend. I just use beer, and if they wanna drown themselves so be it....lol....vegemite "broth" brings them in as well. electric fence for slugs....lol...the sound effects cracked me up Got a pile of tie wire, might be a worthy experiment. There might also be a "nursery" spot, could be a particular plant or area that offers enough shade/moisture for them to hole up in. If you find that spot , you can modify it to stop them for getting high population numbers and reduce some grief.....introducing a blue tongue lizard puts a few areas back into balance I've found as well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
