Rev Posted September 3, 2005 Its a rhizobium but a specific strain for desmanthus genus. its a special order so costs more than usual It costs $24 a pack (which does 50kg seed@!) i dont need it all email me (no PMs please) if you need some im think 1/2 doz or less to chip in itd be your share plus express padded envelope rev [ 05. September 2005, 10:44: Message edited by: Rev ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted September 4, 2005 so, is it for desmanthus (as in the header) or desmodium (as in the text)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted September 4, 2005 Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing Torsten. hehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted September 5, 2005 LOL yeah Desmanthus ill edit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pisgah Posted September 6, 2005 What's the name of the strain? My desmanthus haven't needed innocculant, but there are lots of other mimosoid legumes in my yard. I'm curious... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted September 6, 2005 strain is "desmanthus" ?! there are huge numbers of diff strains manufactured with each clover species being in one class or another, then all the soy beans and stylo etc down the bottom under 'other' was desmanthus innoculum also i totally agree with u on not being necessary in most cases but its been my experience and that of several thouh not all others in Oz that desmanthus has just failed to thrive in many cases while i can plant an acacia pea or bean in most dirt and get nodules whatever goes with desmanthus must be a lot more rare here [ 06. September 2005, 13:27: Message edited by: Rev ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occidentalis Posted September 6, 2005 Rev: also i totally agree with u on not being necessary in most cases but its been my experience and that of several thouh not all others in Oz that desmanthus has just failed to thrive in many cases I can agree hereI gave up on desmanthus after growing heaps of seedlings that never went anywhere. I don't have the time for this at the moment but I'm very interested to see how it turns out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted September 22, 2005 Ok the innoculum has arrived its a bacterial culture on a moist peat carrier the pack innoculates up to 50 kg seed heres the instructions... Slurry Innoculation 1.Prepare a slurry by mixing this pack of inocuklant into 1L itre of cool clean water, preferably containing Bio-care pelleting adhesive 2. Stir to ensure inoculant is thoroughly dispersed 3. Pour slurry over the correct weight of seed and mix until the seed is wet Sow inoculated seed as soon as possible or within 24 hours. Inoculation can be done in a clean concrete mixer or similar vessel PRECAUTIONS Store this pack of inocualnt in a cool place. Do not store opened packs of inoculant. Do not use out of date innoculants (note: im going to open under sterile conditions to be sure the inoculant is ok when split up) cost was less than thought only $16 ill split it and add express postage if youcve registered interest here then youll be notified shortly rev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle. S Posted February 23, 2009 sorry to unearth a very old post yet again ;) but what i've gathered from these old threads is that desmanthus illinoensis is quite hard to grow? can anybody share some of there experiences growing the bundleflower? i had 12 germinate out of 16 a few days ago, should i expect some difficulty in the coming weeks? theres not an awful lot of helpful information out there about this plant! on an unrelated note, in a typical acid base extraction (performed somewhere that ist legal) on a plant that contains n,n-dmt 5-meo-dmt bufotenine and gramine, it would only be the n,n dmt and the 5-meo that made it into the final product wouldnt it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted February 23, 2009 i hold the view that gramine is not as soluble in naphta (shellite) as the other actives, so in a way you might leave the gramine behind this way, to some unknown degree. but nobody so far has confirmed this way of thinking. anyway, i always wondered why de korne was so happy with his phalaris extraction although phalaris contains a lot of gramine, so i checked the solubileties of those various alkaloids and came up with this theory. i worked once with phalaris, and it seemed to be ok material to work with. why do you think uncle, why the gramine would stay behind? after all it's an akaloid like the others and would be extracted via an a/b. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted February 23, 2009 if you can get soil from around the roots,pref including some roots and nodules of a mature similar legume you can try using that as an inoculant .i've found it helps. possums finished mine off at 4yo. t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle. S Posted February 26, 2009 i dont really have a scientific reason for it, i just seem to remember hearing that gramine and bufo(maybe?) are insoluble in typically used a/b solvents, like shellite(naptha). does this sound familiar to anyone else? not really sure how much bufo and gramine are actually in desmanthus root but i guess theres only one way to find out.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites