Rabelais Posted August 6, 2011 Originally thought it was floribunda, then closer inspection of phyllodes revealed doubts. I am hoping mucronata s.mucronata? as this was found in S/E Tas. Any thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hebrew Posted August 6, 2011 it could be, mucronata is one i been looking for lately, but just cant seem to spot it around. thought i found it today, but i think it was a floribunda mucronata does seem to have blunt ends to the phyllodes, but i am not the one who can reliably answer your question, however, floribunda, they are jumping out at me almost every corner i turn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbil Posted August 6, 2011 mucronata http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/mucronata.php floribunda http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/floribunda.php They're tricky ones, particularly these groups, i'm battling similar dilemma with some at home. think i may have a mucronata, or a thinner floribuna, or a nursery hybrid? wish the tag was kept as it's planted ... Are there any glands present on the phyllode margin? it's hard to see in the photo, and can be difficult to spot on some species not present on the floribunda, but present on the mucronata, that seems to be a easy-er characteristic to slate up It does look quite floribunda like, the fairly pubescent stems seems characteristic, can't find that info for the mucronata at present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rabelais Posted August 6, 2011 Are there any glands present on the phyllode margin? it's hard to see in the photo, and can be difficult to spot on some speciesnot present on the floribunda, but present on the mucronata, that seems to be a easy-er characteristic to slate up Nice tip. No glands that I can see...*and the scales tip slightly* I will keep an eye on it over the coming months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
folias Posted August 6, 2011 do some tests or send some to someone who can! :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tas75 Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) I'll go for A. floribunda. IME A. mucronata have stiffer phyllodes that more or less all point in the same direction. The presence/absence of a leaf gland and the degree of stiffness of the phyllodes are the easiest characters to go with. Question is, did it come from native bush, or from the side of the road near the Southern Outlet, Kingston end. If the latter, then it's almost guaranteed A. floribunda. Edit: A. mucronata tend to have more elliptical shaped leaves, and A. floribunda is usually more lanceolate, like your specimen. In any case the length of the phyllodes would almost put it into Acacia mucronata subsp. longifolia territory. Edited August 8, 2011 by Tas75 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recalcetrant Posted August 8, 2011 Does appear to be subspecies mucronata. A.mucronata tends not to have the curved phyllodes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recalcetrant Posted August 8, 2011 Does appear to be ssp mucronata. A.mucronata tends not to have the curved phyllodes. A.mucronata ssp longifolia also tends not to be curved also. At least this is my limited experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rabelais Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) I'll go for A. floribunda. IME A. mucronata have stiffer phyllodes that more or less all point in the same direction. The presence/absence of a leaf gland and the degree of stiffness of the phyllodes are the easiest characters to go with. Question is, did it come from native bush, or from the side of the road near the Southern Outlet, Kingston end. If the latter, then it's almost guaranteed A. floribunda. Edit: A. mucronata tend to have more elliptical shaped leaves, and A. floribunda is usually more lanceolate, like your specimen. In any case the length of the phyllodes would almost put it into Acacia mucronata subsp. longifolia territory. Thanks for that, really had me stumped. Came from New Norfolk area, on a property about 50m off the main road growing naturally in some scrub. This is why I had a little extra hope for mucronata. Phyllodes are definitely on the thinner end of the scale. (EDIT) Was not trespassing btw Edited August 8, 2011 by Dale Cooper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recalcetrant Posted August 9, 2011 Found a nursery website that may interest you down your way. http://www.potn.com.au/plant_list_Acacia.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites