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Hmmm no Ophiuchus?

Saggo in the "accepted" signs.

Where's da Ophiuchians?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/13/new-zodiac-sign-dates-oph_n_808567.html#s223675title=DSW

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Sun Chaser>

there's more to the chart than the positions you mention.

that is sun aries, moon virgo, mercury aries , but I need also the chart to see the houses and much more, the numbers dont help me so much without the visual aid.

the chart itself is very helpful. The aspects between planets can be very important too.

Ceres>>

generating the chart can take 5 minutes indeed, 'reading' is it is one thing, but intepreting a considerable amount of it is another thing and it sure doesn't only take 10 miutes. It takes some research and reading to let you start making your own interepetations...And it also takes some skills.

regarding the agressive style defending astrology and all. I have to make clear that I do not have astrology as my cause. I love talking about it cause its so much interesting to me and also so politically incorrect, but I dont really care defending astrology.

but on the other hand, where there are thousands of people and forums on astrology and they indeed present it mildly and all. I mean, what's the use if we all are mild and diplomatic ? shit I would hate such a world. Unevenness is a blessing.

For every nice idea you got people defending it both in mild and humanist ways you could also benefit from having a couple additional ones getting a bit more agressive talking about the subject.

I think all attidues are interesting and they all together form the whole.

I strongly doubt that this or that behaviour would be better in defending this or that .

I really do believe that a wide range of attitudes from mild to fanatic is needed to be taken into account to research a subject.

Also, when you're on a philosophical debate, it's great to be able to appreciate all attitudes, and even the causations behind certain acts.

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as for Ophiuchians , they are sagittarius

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know they self - thanks for your comments....

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Among the Aries minority here.

And the characteristics of Aries fit me to a T.

Chinese zodia I am the Ox.

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I am not really into stats, but

yeah aries and capris are still a minority...

Astrological Test: why would Aries and Capricorns be not so expected to write in a forum?

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bump , this is still a nice thread... join in everybody, if you havent voted... and join teams

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Cancer is leading the way, i wonder if thats because they are responsive : ) thats according to Zodiac Signs Astrology.com

anyhow just voted, my zodiac sign is scorpio

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Was going to comment, but Mutant took my words =) well said.

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Should we get rid of the Capricorn minority? More webspace for the sags :)

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At least utilise them as unic's

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Eunuchs

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Aries the ram.

I do have a fiery side but I'm also shy and introverted. don't think Aries fits me well at all.

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Aries (1st) is next to the last , picses (12th).. so that could explain it... expecially if born near the cusp....

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nice funny text about sagi-man

The SAGITTARIUS Man

"/ hope no bones are broken?" "None to speak of," the Knight said,

as if he didn't mind breaking two or three of them. "The great art of riding, as I was saying,

is-to keep your balance properly. Like this, you know-"

He let go the bridle, and stretched out both his arms

to show Alice what he

meant, and this time he fell flat on his back,

right under the horse's feet.

I don't want to discourage you, but Sagittarius men have this odd habit. They leap on a big, white horse and go charging through the streets, waving a sword and defending causes. Then they have another idiosyncrasy. They tumble around like clowns in a circus, indiscriminately mixing with (he elephants and the bearded lady, gaily scooping up cotton candy.

He can be captured with certain maneuvers. But first you've got to get him down off that white horse, away from those elephants, and of course the bearded lady has to go. Causes and circuses don't leave much time for family life, let alone sentimental hand-holding.

You have one thing going for you right away. So many Sagittarians charge around and tumble through life that you'll have plenty to choose from. Remember the Victor Herbert refrain; "Give me some men who are stout­hearted men, who will fight for the right they adore; Start me with ten, who are stout-hearted men, and I'll soon give you ten thousand morel"? It happens like that. The idealistic enthusiasm and curiosity of a Sagittarian man is contagious. Of course, sometimes his innocent exuberance can get a little out of hand. Like he'll throw you up in the air in a moment of mad, impetuous exhilaration-and forget to catch you.

There's almost always a crowd around him. That's an­other obstacle. You'll have to push your way through all those people to get near him. But don't get pessimistic- because this man is an optimist supreme. He's so optimistic, if his enemies mailed him a huge carton of manure, he wouldn't be offended. He'd just figure they forgot to include the horse. That kind of optimism can be dangerous. It's really just another term for blind faith. The Sagittarian man has stacks of it. Now, blind faith is fine. I'm all for it, being a fire sign myself. But it can lead to trusting with such naive belief that he frequently falls into puddles. It's easy to fall into puddles when you're running with a bow and arrow, always looking up in the sky for some high goal no one else has ever had the courage to aim for-or no one else ever had the lack of common sense to try to reach.

Trusting is great, but trusting the wrong people can slow down even a race horse. In the strict sense of the word, he's not a misty dreamer. His dreams are always scrutinized by Jupiter's intelligent logic and compelling curiosity. If they stand up under the frank investigation of a Sagit­tarian, they're probably as practical as they are wild, even if the world isn't quite ready for them. Once he's established that there's some hope of fulfillment, he lugs out his paint pots and colors his practical dreams with the most vivid and courageous imagination this side of the designers of the Edsel. But the fuddy duddies are always waiting to stomp on progressive ideas and strangle them before they've had the chance to prove themselves, and you know how many fuddy duddies there are around.

His soaring imagination can cause him to fall down or go busted. But wonderfully. Lady Luck has a way of rescuing him just in time. This man is usually so lucky it's disgusting and illegal. He could go prospecting in the hills, bring back a bag of rocks, find out they're not gold, cry awhile, then discover they're uranium. If you pick up that shiny object at your feet near the subway grating, it will be a piece of tinfoil from an old chewing gum wrap­per. If he picks it up, it will be a chip from the Hope Diamond Harry Winston dropped when he was hailing a cab.

Naturally, with that kind of luck, he's optimistic. There's always that day when a rock is a rock and tinfoil is tin­foil, but the typical Sagittarian recovers quickly from such crushing blows. Your Jupiter man is very much that way about love. He's lucky. When he isn't, he recovers quickly. He discriminates against dishonesty, but that's about all, which is why he has so many friends and well-wishers. He looks beyond the external appearance of people for a truer, more intrinsic value. Not that he doesn't have enemies. There are a few, but far less than the number accumulated by other Sun signs. People who have been stung by his frank remarks may glare at him and feel like strangling him, but they usually come around to realizing his harmless intent. The sin of the Sagittarian male is tactlessness and thoughtlessness, never deliberate cruelty.

You may have discovered by now that his speech is as direct as his symbolic arrow. He can say outrageous things, and if you're in love with him, he may get away with it. But yotfll have every right to take offense when a Sagit­tarian man who has just met you gazes at you frankly with his bright, alert eyes and remarks that you're just the kind of woman a man would choose for a mistress. Just as you're ready to clobber him, he'll get an innocent, boy­ish look on his face, and explain with disarming candor that what he really meant was, well, the kings and aristoc­racy back in the middle ages married for convenience. Their wives, therefore, were often ugly, drab creatures, with good blood lines. But their mistresses were beautiful and brilliant, the kind of girls they would have chosen to fall in love with and marry, if the rules had been different. He's been reading up on it, because he's always been curi­ous about that particular period. You may calm down, and even feel a little smug. You'll also be impressed. How many men spend hours reading history when they don't have to do it? He might even be a genius. Just think, you could be the wife of an intellectual! Wrong. You could be the mistress of an intellectual. By the time he has you ga-ga over his brain, you won't realize that, had your reaction been agreeable to his original proposition-and make no mistake, that's what it was-he would have moved in fast, and you would be a fallen woman.

Of course, not every female would accept such a fum­bling explanation of an obvious pass; but it doesn't matter. Even after his victims explode in indignation, they return. to be the Sagittarian's close friends again, when their anger cools. That should show you just how much danger you're in with this apparently harmless chap. With that candid, naive grin, he doesn't bear the faintest resemblance to a wolf. He looks more like a Boy Scout troop leader.

But he is not a boy scout in romantic matters. It would pay to keep that in mind when he asks you to go hiking.

The Sagittarius male lives his romantic life on a surface level, but he's honest about it. (After all, if you'll brush those sentimental cobwebs out of your ears, you'll remem­ber he did say mistress. He did not say wife. He is not a king. And these are not medieval times.) Sagittarius seeks casual relationships, and sometimes they can get so casual they're downright promiscuous. Occasionally, the shenani­gans of an archer can put a Scorpio to shame, and I prom­ise you it takes a great deal to put a Scorpio to shame.

Let's get back to his honesty. It's a safer subject. If you've learned through bitter experience how fickle other men's vows of eternal devotion can be, you'll welcome his frankness. You won't even flinch when he tells you how many affairs he's had, and what he expects of this one with you, all very clearly and logically. He won't know­ingly tie a legal knot with a lie in his heart or on his lips, but somehow, he can get himself involved in a flirtation which tangles itself into a proposal (possibly from the girl, not him), and have to run like sixty to avoid the altar. Since he's a little clumsy, he may trip, and shell catch him before he gets too far away. In that event, he'll think it Over and illogically decide that, since she appealed to him in one way-either physically or mentally, no matter which-she'll eventually appeal to him the other way. He'll give in, get married, and the seeds for another Sagittarian divorce have been planted. His normally de­pendable reasoning powers seem to desert him when he's romantically trapped.

Women often misinterpret the attitude of a Sagittarian, and think the relationship is more serious than it really is, and this same quality also sometimes makes it appear that he seeks a dark liaison, when he's only after a light, non-physical friendship, or just a girl to pal around with. It seems the archer loses both ways. But he's lucky, and most of his messes turn out straight. He's a flirt, that can't be denied, but he's not looking for sex alone. He likes variety and mental stimulation. If a woman gets sticky when he was only diverting himself, hell try to pass the whole thing off as a joke. She may definitely miss the punch line. (Remember how unsuccessful the typical Sagittarian is with jokes.) Lots of Sagittarians get accused of making passes at every good-looking receptionist or pretty girl they see-sometimes even the little old woman who sells news­papers on the comer, or a lady policeman. Now, no man in his right mind would seriously flirt with a lady police­man-at least, not while she's on duty-so you can see that unjustified suspicion is annoying to the archer. In all fairness, most of the time, he was just being breezily friendly.

If you're a smart girl, who uses her head for something besides an object to poke under a hair dryer-and you'd better be, because these men insist on intelligence in a woman-you'll have caught on by now. Don't be jealous. Don't be suspicious. Give him lots of rope if you want to hang him eventually. Don't question him, weep, nag or threaten to leave him. Smother him with freedom. Imagine how refreshing that would be to him. If you take life in the same spirit he does, and take people as you find them, you have the basic requirements of being his kind of wife-woman. As long as you're basically honest with each other, flying kites together can be a ball. Why worry about when they'll hit the ground? They look so beautiful and free, soaring up there in the sky. No, you don't have to give this man everything he wants to get him. Just be what he wants. Be wide-awake-let him direct and dominate your energies. Love sports. Go camping with him and take your St. Bernard along for a chaperone. Be generous, affection­ate, enthusiastic, and don't try to keep him locked up in your pantry making fudge every night. Make it clear he can't keep you all to himself, either. Let him know you're a free spirit, just as he is. Never throw water on his fiery ideas, and keep yourself busy with other things while he's out shooting his arrows at impossible targets. That way, he'll tell you honestly some lovely night that you are just about everything he needs in a woman. Once he's gone that far, then tell him just as frankly that he's okay in your book, too, but it's time to make a decision. Point out that you like him so much you'd even consider marrying him, if he'd promise not to interfere with your freedom. Otherwise, you really don't have any more time to camp around with him. It's a shame, you're so compatible, but you've always been curious what it would be like to have children. Motherhood is a new kite you'd like to fly. Be sure to arrange for an old flame to call you on the phone in the middle of your speech. Accept the date casually, in front of your archer. When you hang up, smile brightly and remark that there's no reason why you can't still good friends. Then invite him to come along on your date, so he won't have to sit around all by himself. That should do it. (You're welcome!)

After you're married, you probably won't have in-law trouble. Many Sagittarians are shockingly disinterested in family ties. They don't accept the theory of loving blood relations unless they deserve loving. Even those who are fond of their parents and brothers or sisters manage to keep a healthy distance. They visit and show warm affec­tion, but they never expect relatives to interfere with their private lives. Better see that your own relatives don't meddle, either.

Keep your suitcase packed. You'll be doing a lot of traveling. You'll still want to take the St. Bernard along on camping trips-not as a chaperone anymore, but be­cause your new husband loves animals. (Tell the dog it's okay now, he doesn't have to stand guard outside the tent flap.) Keep yourself busy and give him as many nights out as he needs. Never question his honesty. When he's in a temper, the archer can break down a door, or punch a hole through a wall. He's just letting off steam, but it does make a lot of work, and how many times can you call the plasterer? It's a lot easier on everyone's nerves not to accuse him of a lack of integrity in the first place. When he does something wrong, he'll almost surely tell you. That will be hard enough to take without worrying about imaginary things. Practice facing his frankness, if that tomorrow ever comes, and be prepared to know he still loves you, instead of chasing after false rumors today. Be as practical as he is about human emotions. You'll be surprised how strong love can grow in such honest soil. Truth has a way of encouraging permanence in a rela­tionship.

You'll have to put in some hours being a Polly-put-the-kettle-on woman. Since he's a sports fan, he'll probably ex­pect you to watch all the big games on TV with him. But he'll also take you along to all his many social activities if you're pretty and fun and you like people. Sagittarians can't stand droopy clinging women who aren't good mixers. He'll be proud of any special talents you have, and do try to have one or two. Read lots of books, and be prepared to defend a few of his causes, especially the lost ones. -'

He may be a little extravagant, and he'll like an oc­casional game of chance, but the same impulse will make him pretty generous about your spending money, if he's a typical archer. He probably won't mind if you want to work to buy yourself extras.

Expect a little forthright criticism, often painfully lack-; ing in tact. You should be used to it by now. Let it pass. You'll be busy enough patching up the damage with his friends. You're supposed to understand him, remember? You gave him that, the night you forced the issue.

He'll enjoy the children more when they're older, but babies and toddlers might puzzle him a little. Sagittarius fathers usually love to take the youngsters on outdoor excursions. He may be closer to the boys and share their sports and activities, but he'll be tender with the girls. They'll find him more of a pal than a father image. The older they get, the closer they'll be to him. Now and then, his frankness may disturb them when they need privacy. Children are sensitive about their secrets, and their feel­ings may suffer from his curious questions and plain-spoken observations. Youthful escapades will amuse him rather than anger him, but his very tolerance might keep them in line. He'll probably be strict only if they tell a lie. It will be one of the few occasions they'll feel his dis­pleasure. Don't ignore him for the little ones. When he wants you to fly some kites with him, drop the diaper pins and the talcum, call a sitter (not your mother) and go.

The archer thinks with both his heart and his mind. He won't always be wise. Sometimes he'll be foolishly coura­geous. He'll stumble and fall, then get up and try again. But you'll forgive him for almost anything, because he'll set your heart free with a very great gift-an honest love.

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New member. Capricorn sun in the second house. Aries moon in the 6th. Saggitarius ascendant. Mercury in Capricorn 2nd house. Venus in Sagittarius 1st. Mars in Sagittarius 1st. Jupiter in Sagittarius 1st. Saturn in Capricorn 2nd. Uranus in Leo 10th. Neptune in Scorpio 12th. Pluto in Virgo 10th. Venus on the ascendant square Pluto in the 10th. Makings of a grand trine in fire with Uranus in Leo on the mid heaven.

Capricorns get to the top of their chosen proffesion. I profess to choosing the wrong professions.The police have too much time on their hands I believe. Too much time for me that's for sure.

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^^ lol

you're definately a twisted capricorn since you got aries in moon, and sagi ascedant.. (plus mars and venus)

you got a grand trine in fire? this is the second time I find such a chart, the other one had a grand trine in fires too! Haven't got to search what exactly it means..

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Yes all the Sagittarius in my chart makes me feel right at home when you say twisted Capricorn.

To hell with materialism. I couldn't make money ever. Never even wanted to. Grand trine in fire with Mars in Sagittarius in the first trine Moon in Aries in the sixth trine Uranus in Leo in the tenth.

I love astrology. Not very good at it but being so full of myself with those planets in the first house I'll bore you to tears with all the I'm so good crap.

I'd say you have learned a lot if you have only been into astrology for a couple of years.

I used to hate it years ago when I'd talk to women who were into astrology. Invariably they would say in about ten seconds what would take me 5 minutes or more to work out the meaning of.

Hard having a conversation under those circumstances.

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Here is an example of why I'm a poor astrologer mutant.

What I wrote in the post above should read in relation to a grand trine- moon trine jupiter and uranus. Mars trine uranus. Jupiter trine uranus.

Guess it's best to go to sleep around midnight than post on the internet.

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I hear you about having major planets including governor of your chart Jupiter residing in 1st house..

makes the aries element in you stronger..

the grand trine probably makes you all the more egoist and firey and me first.

so you seem to be strong on earth and fire signs . you probably have exceedingly much fire too... (I do have an exceedingly firey chart myself) an interesting thing to check would be to see if you have a lack of airy signs or lack of watery signs.. you can tell this by counting how many planets you got in water signs and how many planets you have in air signs (MC and ASC count as a planet) . There a formula to tell if you lack some element and if yes, what the interpretation might be.. lack of water might mean lack of empathy and emotional depth/intelligence , lack of air might mean problematic communications/socializing

would love to check your chart with my eyes, pm me if youy like

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Just one in water Neptune in Scorpio. No air.

I hear you about lack of social skills and the inability to empathise with others.

Guess that's why I've spent that much time alone.

Live in my own little fantasy world.

Always in an altered state of consciousness not neccessarily through drugs.

Excessive in just about everything I do.

Always had a lot of energy.Felt crazy in my twenties from excess energy. These dsys I'm still crazy with energy. When I have worked for other people I end up hated by co workers because of my near mental work ethic of having no time for anything but work.

I'm on a pension now because I hear, see and feel things that aren't real they tell me.

I'm obsessive about Tai chi. My teacher back in the 80's said all this crap about how I was supposed to carry the banner of his style. Well 30 years later I am not doing that because it would mean I couldn't practise as much if I had to teach others.

So yes I am fixated on myself and freely admit it.

I used to work out charts with an ephemeris and table of ascendants.

These days I guess everyone does it on their computer?

I don't mind posting my details. I've been a scapegoat many times.

7th Jan 1960 1.55am. Born in Sydney Australia.

Good luck mutant.

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thanks for honesty

now that's an interesting chart and yeah everyone does it with computers nowdays, not manually ..

one would argue there are two different grand trines.. also the chart is very unbalanced, not unlike mine, but this one is even more..

lots of earth and fire in your chart... also an 'easy' chart, lots of positive aspects, and only one or two negative ones..

for what its worth, I dont see egoism as a flaw, but rather as an essential and misunderstood element of the human nature: the fire element...

phlosophical hostility towards egoism is common both in hippy/neohippy/neo psychedelic communities as well as left-wing, anarchist, anarchocommunist groups: egoism is regarded not only as a flaw, but also a flaw that capitalist society installed in you.

This is serious bollocks IMO, because even though capitalism indeed supports antagonism between individuals, people still have personalities and characters.. Just because I am somewhat leftwing, it doesn't mean I will blame everything to society and capitalism..

lack of air and lack or water , search/google for their astrological importance in a chart... this might be one of the most important problematic parts in your chart.. and not the egoism...

PS: i am not really the athletic type, but Tai chi seems pretty awesome for a martial art that is!

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Hey thanks mutant.

An astrologer told me to carry my egoism with pride. Much like Leo she said.

A flaw I continually deal with is a self negating Capricornian one I think.

I think you must be athletic to find those Boletus and other edible mushrooms.

Mushroom hunting can be quite rigorous at times.

Every time I go for a walk around here I'm always looking.

I went to an astrologer with a bit of a rep about 25 years ago. She said the type of woman I'm attracted to is Piscean in nature.

Other people have said Sagittarian.

I've only been with an Aries a Sagittarius and a Cancer.

What do think looking at my chart.

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"FEUER FREI!! BANG BANG!! FEUER FREI!!"

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I hear you on the self-negating capri, but you still got taurus (sun in 2nd) and virgo (moon in 6th) elements which are quite important

so your chart could be considered a battle ( a mix) between fire and earth elements.. Again I encourage you to check out what lack of the arorementioned elements (air, water) means.

Some time ago I downloaded a astrology book pack in pdf.. most of the shit was outdated and stupid, but there was one book really worth checking for the dude that already has understood the basics of chart interpretation

http://www.nordlicht.ru/stars/english/Tracy%20Marks%20-%20The%20Art%20Of%20Chart%20Interpretation.pdf

there you will find grind trine interepretations, as well as lack of certain elements plus much more...

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Yeah I got an athletic body, I was always slim and flexible, well not anymore, I gor a discslip..

but I never had a tendency for sports...

when I go mushroom hunting the adrenaline and excitement is such I really dont see it as an athletic thing.

its more like an animal thing, I transform to another animal when there're mushrooms in the woods.

anyways, I still maintain some of that athletic stuff as it seems to be in my body

I regard it as a physical quality of aries / 1st house : strong body and metabolism

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about the opposite sex...

venus in sagitarrius and moon in aries, you could be attracted in any of them girls, and also cancer fits, as it is opposite capri..

maybe one nice bet would be a saggitarius - cancer hybrid, preferably with some extra earthiness to match yours... maybe sagitarrius with cancer ascedant...

I cannot understand the pisces you wre told though

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