Kahuin Posted July 20, 2011 Repost of my thread from Australian Ethnobotany: It occurs to me that I have no money to buy new plants/seeds. But what I do have is a mass of seeds and plants that I either dont need or don't want.I have MUCH to trade. I am after pretty much anything. This is exclusive to Australia with the exception of what can be legally imported and exported outside of its borders. Basically, make me an offer and tell me what you want and what you have to trade and we'll organise it If you wish to trade for one of the higher value items, then expect to offer me something of equal value Plants: Calea Zacatechichi - Plants and cuttings Psychotria - Carthagenensis - Plants and leaf cuts - Viridis - Leaf cuts Kava (Piper Methysticum) - Plants from off-shoots/runners Leonotis leonurus (Wild Dagga/Lions Tail) - Plants and cuttings Sceletium (Kanna) - Varians - Cuttings and plants - tortuosum - Cuttings and plants - emarcidum - Cuttings and plants Trichocereus - various - Cuttings Catha Edulis (Khat) - White/Green - Plants - Red - Plants - Vienna White - Plants Plant list to be further updated (though thats most of it) Seeds: SIlene Capensis/Undulata - Lots of seeds Datura Metel - Lots of seeds Brugsmansia (unsure of species) - Lots of seeds Dodonaea viscosa (hop bush) - Lots and lots Morning Glory - Heavenly Blue (Ipomoea) - Few (rare) Seed list to be further updated in time! Note: I will not ship plants across borders (incl. WA/TAS) please do not ask - UNLESS it is legal to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrislesnar Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) Chrislesnar, use some common sense and not post illegal items for trade and use the appropriate forum to ask for prints with the appropriate disclamer. Its generaly a good idea to read a forums rules and guidelines BEFORE posting., Next time you get a warn point. Edited July 22, 2011 by AndyAmine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solomon Posted July 21, 2011 i have *********** to trade if someone has a cub print Hey there Chrislesnar, please don't incriminate yourself. That plant is scheduled in all states in Oz as far as I know. It is against the rules and may bring unwanted attention to the forum. You should probably edit your post. If you are after a P. cubensis print for microscopy you could start your own thread as I don't think Kahuin has said anything about trading prints.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 21, 2011 All I can say is good luck trading that sally for some prison soap ;) ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lhb2444 Posted July 22, 2011 That sounds like a fair deal doesn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 22, 2011 Kava (Piper Methysticum) - Plants from off-shoots/runners You got photos of those? I've not heard of kava successfully being grown in Sydney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 Yup, my kava is one of my largest plants, and is a very fast grower :D I've only had this one about a year so I only have a couple of offshoots, but I'll be trying to take cuttings soon as I've heard this can be successfully done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solomon Posted July 23, 2011 Hmm the leaf shape looks a bit different than my Kava Kava but I'm sure some of the different strains differ in appearance. Looks very healthy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 Google images seems to show two distinct types, my one and: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 23, 2011 That looks more like Piper auritum. Do the leaves have a safrole smell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 I doubt it's auritum, bought it from someone over on Australian Ethnobotany a while back, don't know who, but as far as I can remember they're credible. I'll go take some more pictures of my kava for inspection, and take a sniff I wouldn't know what safrole smells like, but i'll see if i can liken what it smells like to anything i know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Okay, broke off and rubbed a bit of leaf to see what it smelt like... Sharp and kinda citrusy maybe? Its now stuck in my nose as well. Bleaurgh, not pleasant. Photos uploading now... The photo on wiki and the photos that are coming up in searches look like mine. Edited July 23, 2011 by Kahuin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etherealdrifter Posted July 23, 2011 smells like my witch's hair >>>licorice /aniseed pungency mmmmmm boiled lollies mmmmmmmmmmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 23, 2011 Whatever is it, I doubt it's kava. I don't see kava surviving a Sydney winter outside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etherealdrifter Posted July 23, 2011 Hi ya trips Yeah kahuin, thee arouma would be most definate if tis was a high yielding var of piper. but heh cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Never grown Piper methysticum, but it looks exactly like P. auritum to me. Mind you, I'm no Piper expert and haven't looked closely at identifying features, just leaf shape, texture, etc., coupled with where it is being grown. Edit: hey ethereal! Edited July 23, 2011 by tripsis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 http://www.comfsm.fm/~dleeling/invasive/hawaiian_sakau.html Seems to suggest that Piper Auritum grows upright with a single stem almost like bamboo where as Methysticum clumps and has multi-branched nodes like mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 Yeah kahuin, thee arouma would be most definate if tis was a high yielding var of piper.but heh cheers Which piper do you mean? The smell of safrole would be definite? or the smell of kava would be definite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 23, 2011 Seems to suggest that Piper Auritum grows upright with a single stem almost like bamboo where as Methysticum clumps and has multi-branched nodes like mine. How did you read that? From the your link: Where Piper methysticum forms non-spreading clumps, this new plant spreads rapidly via suckers. The upper branches on the mature plant extend out horizontally as seen above. The plant grows significantly larger than P. methysticum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) From this bit: The Piper auritum is growing in a stream, in running water, amongst basalt rocks, in Rohi, U. Above are images of the plant growing out of the stream. Note the "singularity" of the stems: this plant does not form P. methysticum type clumps. A branch and node are seen above. Edited July 23, 2011 by Kahuin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 Also apparently both are "frost tender" according to SAB shop, so there's no greater chance that either of them would grow in Sydney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahuin Posted July 23, 2011 And I meant the nodes dont have multiple branches, not that they dont branch out, sorry, bad wording. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 23, 2011 Also apparently both are "frost tender" according to SAB shop, so there's no greater chance that either of them would grow in Sydney. Piper auritum does very well in Sydney. There's a massive grove of it in Cherrybrook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted July 23, 2011 Anyway, it may not be P. auritum, but I doubt it's P. methysticum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites