mr toodly Posted May 15, 2005 Apoth: Where are you on IRC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 15, 2005 Austnet, freenode, and a few private networks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr toodly Posted May 15, 2005 Server address/channel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr toodly Posted May 15, 2005 Actually, send server IP's if possible. Name server issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted May 15, 2005 its nice smoke, sounds like shes got you now :D ive only had plesurable experiences smoking it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mescalito Posted May 15, 2005 As far as synergy goes tobacco,ganga,dat/brug,lotus and scelly all seem to get along well in basically any combo. Apoth have you tried saffron yet? It strikes me as a great muscle relaxant/pain reliever additive to baccy or mull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 15, 2005 mescalito, nope, saffron is mainly a food additive in my culture so no According to mother, saffron here is shit compared to the stuff from Iran. There's a reason it costs its weight in gold there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted May 15, 2005 Apoth you might get lucky soon they are starting to cultivate it here in Tassie now in fact if u go through tesselar bulbs at the right time of year i think u can get bulbs i did some reading and the are fast multipliers. Jus gotta have perfect drainage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 16, 2005 A saffron plant would make an awesome present for mother. If anyone sees what Rev is describing, please keep me in mind, or at least posted [ 16. May 2005, 02:28: Message edited by: apothecary ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 18, 2005 space trucker - what is your brug dosage. apoth - ditto? we sell saffron bulbs from nov - feb usually. Not this year though cos the rodents got them ALL. The f#ckers pulled the fresh shoots up and then dig down to get the whole bulb. If they start doing that to my Colchicum bulbs as well I'll get worried Fresh saffron is highly aromatic. I wouldn't be surprised if much of the psychoactivity was due to volatile oils as the best effects come from the best smelling stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 18, 2005 I'll ask my cousin to bring back some for bioassay. He is going shortly. I don't have scales, so I measure things in squares. I flatten my smoking material (chopped finely and dry) flat on a piece of paper and have squares drawn on the paper. I use a cityrail ticket to move the material into roughly equal squares. Brug is always half a square Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 18, 2005 so what size are the squares? I presume you are not doing it on a perforated 500lsd blotter sheet :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 18, 2005 Exactly 3/4 of a cityrail ticket 5.5x 6.6cm or so hehehe. Definitely no more than 1cm high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 18, 2005 shit, that's HEAPS! what part of the plant is it? and we are talking just the brug?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 19, 2005 Well T, it's 1 square cannabis, 1 square lotus, 0.5 squares brug. This time was flowers, but I've smoked 0.5 squares of brug leaf on its own before, re my above post about young leaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ergoamide Posted May 19, 2005 i no that i may seem ignorant but wot is the active dose for tropanes and im not talkin about 1 flower or 2 leaves im mean how many mg of tropanes is an active dose for deliriant effects Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacetrucker Posted May 19, 2005 Lately I make a mix of 2:3 cannabis bud to brug leaf (sauvolens from SAB, ~6 mths old) all finely powdered. I start with about 2 or 3 single toke bowls in a row, from a bong, and then have the odd bowl now and then till late the evening. Pretty much casual smoking... One night I smoked about six cones in a row of straight brug, then one toke of weed. After a while I felt slightly unbalanced when I walked, and sitting in a dark room with music had some nice, incredibly detailed CEV. A bit later I felt like there were white sheets of light coming down and enveloping me. That was the strongest effect I've had from it... not really that strong, compared to say a decent mushie trip. I find this drug to be really suited to introspection and meditation. When I have it, it just seems like the right thing to do to go into my mind. I will feel really lucid sitting in the dark, probing my own mind, but then if I turn the lights on I am "brought back" and the magic disappears somewhat, and I just feel ++stoned. I'm not looking to get off the planet on this stuff, don't have any plans to make a brew. I think I will have it only occasionally, if at all, in the future. But its at the moment it's relatively new to me...its like having a new girl/boyfriend, you just want to be together all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salvi Posted May 20, 2005 Now you guys have really got me curious. I've chopped a datura plant down for sampling. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 20, 2005 If you really did chop the whole plant down, you should attempt smoking the roots and get post results here. Remember, be careful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Posted May 20, 2005 Ergoamide not sure on what doseage would cause delerium however Atropine, Scopolamine and Hyoscyamine are used medicinally in doses of around a quarter of a milligram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted May 20, 2005 'Buscopan' is Hyoscine Butylbromide, and I think it's 10mg per tablet. That is a dose to treat stomach cramps, not induce any psychoactive effects. Now, I am just going off memory with all of this info, because I don't have any Buscopan on hand. So, you might want to double check the dose. They source it from the 'native duboisia bush', but don't reveal which Duboisia exactly. Pituri tablets anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted May 20, 2005 Benz, www.alkaloids.org Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Posted May 20, 2005 My source was for medicinal dose was pharmacotheon, and I checked RXLIST and i appear to be correct. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/scopol.htm Must be different dose for hyosine-N-butylbromide I'd say they would using Duboisia myoporoides for tropane extraction. [ 20. May 2005, 06:20: Message edited by: Jack ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted May 20, 2005 But then it depends on where in Australia the Duboisia plants have come from. Peter Latz, in Bushfires & Bushtucker, talks about these plants being mainly nicotine in some areas, and mainly tropanes in other areas. Surely these pharm. companies would use the most potent strain of plant available? As-in, the plant with the most Hyoscine. I would love to know the details of their business. How they choose which plants to use, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Posted May 20, 2005 On the link apothecary posted, it states they use Dubosia that are native to the Kingaroy district of Queensland, Australia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites