lino pattern Posted January 9, 2011 i got no idea what it is i found it with dads other lil plants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solomon Posted January 9, 2011 Gymnocalycium mihanovichii grafted on to something.. not sure what the stock is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lino pattern Posted January 9, 2011 THANK YOU VERRY MUCH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bit Posted January 9, 2011 They irradiate the seeds somehow I believe to make them go weird colours, then graft after they sprout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solomon Posted January 9, 2011 They irradiate the seeds somehow I believe to make them go weird colours, then graft after they sprout. would be interesting to hear more about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moses Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) i dont think irradiation is good enough for consistently single coloured seed but is used to find new colour combos. i think most is either pup graft or tissue culture. i prefer the ones that can grow on their own roots(google image-hibotan nishiki) with those type of colours, trying to breed some now actually. some good reading on radiating seed and weird cacti in general can be found in this list of articles http://www.lapshin.org/cultivar/list-e.htm Edited January 10, 2011 by Moses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symbiate Posted January 9, 2011 My local bunnings is selling some of these. They described them as 'albino' cacti which must be grafted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moses Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) My local bunnings is selling some of these. They described them as 'albino' cacti which must be grafted. yeah the pure colour ones(hibotan) need to be grafted but you can get ones with enough green in them to live on their own roots(hibotan nishiki) these are far more prized by the japanese and not commercially produced(to the best of my knowledge). I currently have three small pups(5 cent piece size) taken from a two toned pink hibotan that are on their own roots and have been cross pollinating between- two grafted hibotan from bunnings crested hibotan nishiki gymnocalyclium mihanovichii(green/orange) green/purple gymnocalycium mihanovichii multi coloured gymnocalycium friedrichii and to really mess with genetics triple headed/triple crested gymnocalcium baldianum(green) Edited January 10, 2011 by Moses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogfrog Posted January 10, 2011 i have one on its own roots which is still a nice red, nothing fluro, i thought i should graft it but its put out flower buds so that shud mean its quite happy shouldnt it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moses Posted January 10, 2011 i have one on its own roots which is still a nice red, nothing fluro, i thought i should graft it but its put out flower buds so that shud mean its quite happy shouldnt it? from my experience..yes all mine seem to change colour intensity with differing seasonal light. the large green/purple has been(and was when first obtained) completely purple and the orange/green crest all orange/red/green. so your all red could(should?) show some green over time. this is all guess work for me too, i've only really got the bug to try breeding them the last 12 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solomon Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) i dont think irradiation is good enough for consistently single coloured seed but is used to find new colour combos. i think most is either pup graft or tissue culture. i prefer the ones that can grow on their own roots(google image-hibotan nishiki) with those type of colours, trying to breed some now actually. some good reading on radiating seed and weird cacti in general can be found in this list of articles http://www.lapshin.o...ivar/list-e.htm thanks for the excellent link, will have me drooling for a while edit: obregonia crest Edited January 10, 2011 by centipede Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bℓσωηG Posted January 10, 2011 Good stuff moses , i like the way you think, Gymnos rock, good link too , ooooh... the astros on there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) hey this baldianum crest is awesome! is it from your own seed or you bought it? has it flowered? chlorophylle-lacking coloured gymnos are harder to graft over all I found, and in my experience they don't change to make green parts. They remain parasites and eventually die from a variety of reasons, including direct rainfall. All in all they're pretty sensitive. The pink ones you're trying to root are gonna die a slow [or faster] death I reckon... Edited January 10, 2011 by mutant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moses Posted January 10, 2011 hey this baldianum crest is awesome! is it from your own seed or you bought it? has it flowered? chlorophylle-lacking coloured gymnos are harder to graft over all I found, and in my experience they don't change to make green parts. They remain parasites and eventually die from a variety of reasons, including direct rainfall. All in all they're pretty sensitive. The pink ones you're trying to root are gonna die a slow [or faster] death I reckon... just finished. it was purchased, the small pink ones are quite firmly rooted and had large green areas when i removed them (or i wouldnt have tried) which have recently gone quite purple, im guessing summer sun,it makes seedlings hard to judge as i had a tray that had quite a variety of colour then i exposed it to full sun and like all seedlings they all turned pink,and anyone having seedlings go pink knows how long it can take before they show proper colour again. I dont think the plants make new green parts but that the green was/is already there and wasnt/isnt showing through from growing/seasonal factors. Im basing this on the differnce of colours of cacti purchased from interstate to when grown here and my large purple/green mihanovichii was purple for years then started reddening before showing greening. G.friedrichii purchased was excellent reds and oranges and greens when purchased and now is a purple all over and the orange/green crest was purchased almost completly orange but now shows green. Im not saying its all coloured cacti but that i have noticed some exceptions so bogfrog could find indeed her cacti is quite happy and may show some more colour later on in life but then it may not, my cacti have moved around the yard alot changing their exposure which may impact their colour?????? i really dont know it just gives me something to past the time and i think the coloured curios are underrated, someone on some plant forum told me he had one now for 10yrs on a trich in his garden and its huge and it got me wondering Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) killer plant that crest. [re: color gymno] I see, this is interesting and makes sense, sure some could part turn green, I just haven't seen in in my plants nor a nursery. I would love to see a 10 y.o. on a tricho that's for sure!! Next time I will show you mine Edited January 11, 2011 by mutant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CβL Posted January 11, 2011 They're called moon cacti. And as far as I know, eventually the stock will wither and the scion will need to be re-grafted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 11, 2011 here's mine [myown graft] Not the best photo, but.... another oneI had was fucked from receiving too much direct water. Red gymnos = real pussies. The stock survived though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
