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copelandia cyanescens and possible look-a-likes

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These copraphillic mushrooms were photographed in south east asia (in hindsight I should have taken many more photos but light was running out... sorry for the poor quality pics – will attempt more photos when I am back in the area) The first two pics are of the same cluster and I assumed them to be inactive lookalikes. The latter are most definitely a psilocybin containing species as a bluing reaction was observed after 10 minutes when the stem was broken (also the one on the right is seen to have an already blackening stem). The former however did not seem to exhibit a bluing reaction after heavy bruising and being left in the field over night. However I have found in the past that the bluing reactions sometimes takes a very long time to be observed for this species, but surely over night is sufficient for it to occur. They look remarkably similar, with purple to black spores and gills and whitish caps – however the latter do seem to have thinner more yellow stems, compared to the more fleshy white stems of the former (although this could just be due to different stages of development). Also the latter appear to have more hemispherical caps. My mycological intuition immediately saw a difference between these two clusters of mushrooms, although it is hard to see in the photos. Is anyone aware of non-active copraphillic copelandia cyanescens look-a-likes? any photos of these species would be greatly appreciated.

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The active ones could be Panaeolus cyanescens or P. cambodginiensis.

The inactive ones could be Panaeolus antillarum or P. semiovatus.

Edited by tripsis

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The active ones could be Panaeolus cyanescens or P. cambodginiensis.

The inactive ones could be Panaeolus antillarum or P. semiovatus.

 

thanks mate, from looking at mushroom john's website I think p. cyanescens seems the most likely candidate for the active ones. here are some more pics of similar active species, this time found at sea level (previous ones were at 600m):

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I enjoyed searching for these mushrooms as only ever find cubensis back in oz.

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Nice pictures, where were they found?

 

Timor-Leste

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Magic, thansk for sharing! Fantastic, indonesia is copelandia heaven.... :wub:

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I shouldnt have called them the same country, but habit and geographically speaking they are.

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yep they seem to love this part of the world. would recommend East Timor to anyone interested in ethnobotany, the traditional anamism practices are alive and well. the locals love telling there creation stories, and sorcery and magic plays an important role especially in the mountainous areas. brugmansia and datura are also prolific.

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thanks for sharing this, i really like the hand photo with the mountains in the background, what an environment, can just feel the weather through the photo, seems like a peaceful place.

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this time some photos from indonesia proper. good times...

most seemed to be classic panaeolus cyanescens, but there does seem to be considerable variation within the species.

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cool shrooms ! what time of year in Timor was this? or they all year round there?

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cool shrooms ! what time of year in Timor was this? or they all year round there?

 

December. Timor tends to be much drier than the rest of the indonesian archipelago at sea level (mountains are always wet, but not hot enough for copraphillic mushrooms really). The second half of 2010 was abnormally wet in Timor, however, and perhaps these mushrooms would not be able to be found every year in December.

No one I met in Timor, including expats, locals and tourists, new anything about these mushrooms so couldn't tell me if they grew all year or not. The families I met in indonesia that harvest them said they only found out about them when tourists started coming in the 1970's and eating them. So perhaps the knowledge of shrooms in Timor will increase as tourism expands.

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Great pics and nice finds! Pans are awesome.

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