occidentalis Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I don't agreeIn my mind ayahuasca must include B. caapi - but I don't think it matters where it comes from.One of my main reasons for criticising Teotz's list is that it blends fact with opinion. This is one of the matters of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santiago Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 (edited) i have never ever understood the ol teotz bashing, its really none of my biz...i probably have not read 90% of that members posts so i dont fully understand the history etc...i realise that many people consider him to be some kinda ethno bot and forum wife swapper but my personal view is that teotz is trying to do the right thing.my advive teotzcoatl is write yourself a proper non fiction book on ethnobotanicals as obviously you have the passion and knowledgable enough, id buy it. Edited September 18, 2010 by santiago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyPants Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Maybe colour the "opinion" text in colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedonix Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 instead of barking at teotz, perhaps you could ask him politely if he could explain the various points that are confliting or that you dont agree with, to you/us??? are you referring to me, incog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 Not to go too far off topic... but...i realise that many people consider him to be some kinda ethno bot and forum wife swapperMaybe I'm just a computer program...And... WTF is a "forum wife swapper"?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ref1ect1ons Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I store it in the freezer as well; I remember reading somewhere that freezing might make it stronger by breaking down the plant cells and causing them to release more actives. Not sure how true that is, but it's still the best way to keep it from spoiling.Anyone else try this?. It would be awesome to brew it fresh everytime then just store it in the fridge or freezer, in the fridge it will ferment but will not lose it's activity quickly. Ofcourse I am hypothesizing about a fantastic future in which medicinal herbs are rightly available to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted October 10, 2010 Author Share Posted October 10, 2010 Everybody knows the Shamans of the Amazon have the best Ayahuasca... do you think they freeze their plants/brew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahli Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Everybody knows the Shamans of the Amazon have the best Ayahuasca... do you think they freeze their plants/brew? I very much doubt it.I also doubt they weigh their materials or store their brewing methods on the Internet.But I reckon they would arc up spliff of cannabis. Just to contextually confuse things a little.Store in the fridge in the short term, freezer in the long term. Simmer for 10 minutes before using. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutant Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) NOTES:Narcotics- Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, etc.since when cocaine and speed are narcotics?? <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_rolleyes.gifalso, one cannot take coke 33 days before and 33 days after the brew, but he can chew coca leaves during the session?!??!? <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_rolleyes.gifalso what's up with the 33? is there a numerology thingy here I am not aware off? [there's it again in the dried weights!] <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_rolleyes.gifplus if you're allowing 'botanical teas' even during the session, why write all the rest of restrictions? is it that the term 'botanical tea' sounds cool and ethno enough for a real aya? <___base_url___>/uploads/emoticons/default_rolleyes.gif**** incognitoi would also metion that people with a psychotic condition should imbibe under an EXPERIENCED eye.so much can and does go wrong with the psychadelic experience with people with a psychotic conditionthis advice is not restricted to aya, but all psychadelic substances. we could also say, people with psychotic tendencies DO NOT INGEST ANY PSYCHEDELIC SUBSTANCE AT ALL, unless you should.By saying 'unless you should' I mean 'Unless you know what you're doing', 'unless you have an experienced guide that has worked with a decent sample of unstable people' and in general 'unless you have considered the risks and have decided to go on anyway, or don't care if the trip turns out a disaster'******Anyways, I am really tired seeing teotz getting special treatment, IMO it's long prooved this girl cannot make a distiction between opinion and fact. Every new opinion of hers becomes a fact on the lists. And yeah, compulsive obession cannot help knowledge and truth too much. Other than that, I will go with theI am keeping the info I like from these lists and ignore or badmouth [depends on my mood and the arrogance of her false claims] the misinformation. Edited October 12, 2010 by planthelper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothinghead Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) editracketemensch, did in no way break any forum rules, his post was even of a defending nature, but i had to edit. Edited October 12, 2010 by planthelper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) edit Edited October 12, 2010 by planthelper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planthelper Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 some offending content has been removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 Thanks Planthelper, I hope we can continue this thread and add more and more info.... does anybody have anything to contribute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamscape Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 High first post here but your list of things not to do 33 days before or after included asthma medication will this interact with the MAOI in a bad way.Never found that in any reserch i've done. I am an Asthmatic and as i would be keen to try ayahuasca if it were to become legal in the near future. Iwould appreciate clarification from any one in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teotzlcoatl Posted November 28, 2010 Author Share Posted November 28, 2010 The list I created was complied from various sites and sources, I believe at least one person mentioned mild complications (headache, etc.) after using their inhaler during a ceremony.However... who knows if your on the same type of asthma medication or what... it's best to research the specific medication your taking and make 100% sure that it's MAOI-safe. I can't offer medical advice, I'm not a doctor, I just compile information. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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