Psychoactive Animals!

[Teotzlcoatl]

Below is a list of animals which are psychoactive when ingested by humans (instead of animals which use psychoactives themselves).

{Zoological Intoxicants & Medicines} ~ Psychoactive/Medicinal Animals & Insects-

Amphibians & Reptiles-

Bufo alvarius ~ “Colorado River Toad” or “Sonoran Desert Toad”

Bufo marinus ~ "Cane Toad"

Epipedobates tricolor ~ "Phantasmal Poison Frog"

Hyla species ~ "Tree Frog"

Leptodactylus species ~ "Ditch Frogs"

Naja naja ~ "Indian Cobra"

Ophiophagus hannah ~ "King Cobra"

Phyllomedusa bicolor ~ “Sapo Frog” or “Giant Monkey Frog“ (“Kambo”)

Rana species ~ "Common Frog" or “Pond Frog” (True Frogs)

Rana temporaria ~ “European Common Brown Frog”

Salamandra salamandra ~ "Fire Salamander"

Marine Life-

Abudefduf septemfasciatus ~ "Sergeant Magor"

Epinephelus corallicola ~ "Grouperfish"

Kyphosus cinerascens ~ "Bluefish"

Kyphosus fuscus ~ "Dream Fish”

Kyphosus vaigiensis ~ "Brass Breamfish"

Mugil cephalus ~ "Flathead mullet"

Mulloidichtys samoensis ~ "Golden Goatfish

Neomyxus chaptali ~ "Mullet Fish"

Saganus oramin ~ "Rabbitfish"

Sarpa Salpa ~ ""Salema Porgy"

Upeneus arge ~ "Goatfish"

Urolophus jamaicensis ~ "Yellow Stingray"

Insects-

Apis mellifera ~ "Honey Bee"

Cantharis vesicatoria ~ "Spanish Fly"

Floria species ~ "Coca Larvae”

Myelobia smerintha ~ "Bicho De Tacuara" (Bamboo-Worm)

Phoneutria nigriventer ~ "Brazilian Wandering Spider"

Pogonomyrmex californicus ~ "Red Harvester Ant"

Other Animals (Other Organic Non-Botanical Psychoactives/Medicinals)-

Aztec Psychoactive Bird ~ "Oconenetl"

Giraffe ~ "Umm Nyolokh" (Liver and Bone)

Some interesting notes about Psychoactive Animals-

The frog is a powerful and widespread symbol of intoxication in numerous native societies in South America.

The crystallized venom of Cobras is often mixed with cannabis and then smoked by Holy Men in India.

After killing a giraffe the hunters make camp and prepare a drink called umm nyolokh from its liver and bone marrow.

The hunters say that the making of this drink is the main reason for hunting the giraffe.

\"it is said that a person, once he has drunk umm nyolokh, will return to giraffe again and again\"

Humr, being Mahdists, are strict abstainers and a Humrawi is never drunk (sakran) on liquor or beer. But he uses this word to describe the effects which umm nyolokh has upon him.\'

After drinking it, dreams of giraffes are commonly reported and Cunnison said that he actually heard a man wake up shortly after drinking it shouting \'giraffe on your left\'. Waking hallucinations experienced under the influence of the drink also typically involve giraffes.

Stories of psychotropic birds are extremely rare. A sixteenth century account of the Aztecs by Diego Munoz Camargo describes how eating the flesh of the bird named oconenetl induces visions. It is not known to which kind of bird this refers, beyond the description of it as being fed and black.

It is possible that either the bird itself produced a psychoactive substance or it ingested the drug from a plant source.

Batrachotoxins (i.e. amphibian poisons) have been recently discovered in the feathers and skin of South American birds of the genus Pitohui Richard Schultes has reported that the bones of a certain bird that ate the fruits of a plant that was used as an additive to ayahuasca were known to be poisonous to dogs.

The Amahuaca people of the Peruvian Amazon are reported to use the poison from a frog (Phyllomedusa bicolor) to induce states of trance. The poison is rubbed into self-inflicted burns and believed to allow the hunters to communicate with animal spirits.

Ratsch has suggested that the yellow stingray (Urolophus jamaicensis) was used for its inebriating and aphrodisiac venom in pre-Columbian times by the Maya.

A nineteenth-century French explorer named Augustin de Saint-Hilaire (1779—1853) has left behind descriptions of the use of bicho de tacuara, a \'bamboo grub\' (which seems actually to be the larva of a certain type of moth) by the Malalis, an indigenous people of eastern Brazil, and some Portuguese residents who had \'gone native\'.

Links-

http://www.erowid.org/animals/bee/bee_info1.shtml

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75139

http://www.salviasource.org/forum/psychoac...-psychoactives/

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/var004.htm

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=...f856a575d939ef4

http://www.erowid.org/animals/toads/toads.shtml

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.asp...sts&m=85052

http://drugsafetysite.com/herbs/animals/

http://www.greenexpander.com/2007/11/07/cr...-used-as-drugs/

http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=646

http://www.x-sandra.com/valencic/valencic/salamander.htm

http://www.cracked.com/article/81_6-animal...n-get-you-high/

http://www.grailtrail.ndo.co.uk/Grails/brandy.html

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/...cobra_venom.php

http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Drug...nom-73246.shtml

http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn...aulast=Varghese

http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn...t=Varghese#ref4

Edited February 25, 2010 by Teotzlcoatl

[FancyPants]

Maybe the giraffes liked eating active Acacia trees?

[lofty86]

Thanx Teotz, seen it on the nexus the other day was wondering if u were gonna post it here 2.

there doesnt seem to be much info around on the subject but im really interested

id like to please add bufo marinus to the list i know its somwhat debated on this forum but ive personally had success with this species.

can anyone from Oz remember the name of the fish off norfolk island that induces lucid dreams (cant remember wether it was disscussed here or on another forum?)

and possibly the humble centerpede some animal from the amazon use em to get lit, they appear numerous times in literature, and from what ive been told a bite causes extreame swelling/delerium/and colour halucinations.

[Mycot]

Very interesting subject. It's sad that in so many of these cases we know so little about the active biochemistry involved.

[Teotzlcoatl]

Thanx Teotz, seen it on the nexus the other day was wondering if u were gonna post it here 2.

I get in trouble if I post too much here.

So sorry if you miss anything cool.

id like to please add bufo marinus to the list i know its somwhat debated on this forum but ive personally had success with this species.

It's not used traditionally anywhere so I'd prefer not to add that to the list... unless you have proof that is was used traditionally by some culture?

can anyone from Oz remember the name of the fish off norfolk island that induces lucid dreams (cant remember wether it was disscussed here or on another forum?)

and possibly the humble centerpede some animal from the amazon use em to get lit, they appear numerous times in literature, and from what ive been told a bite causes extreame swelling/delerium/and colour halucinations.

I really like to hear more about both of those! Can you get me species names?

There is some type of "Bamboo grub" or something that makes you trip if you eat the "intestines"... anybody remember that?

Link me if so!

A species of duck lives in the swamps and lagoons near Mazatlan. Their meat is said to be poisonous, and eating it has been known to produce symptoms of having been poisoned or drugged. This was long a mystery, but now it is known to be due to Datura poisoning. The ducks eat the leaves and seeds of Datura ceratocaula, and their flesh contains a toxic level of poison from this diet.

In 2006, medical journal Clinical Toxicology reported that ancient Romans knowingly hallucinated off of Sarpa Salpa heads.

There is a snake that is caught up in northern QLD and used as a substitute for alcohol by some aboriginals. They catch a heap of them, put them in a bucket or bin, and then proceed to get bitten. Each snake has 2 good bites and then it is let go. Guys can sit around for a few hours getting bitten. THe effects are said to be much like alcohol without the sickness. I\'m not going to put the name as i don\'t want to write the wrong thing and have someone die.

In Mexico, centipedes and wasps were commonly revered for their poisonous qualities and there were often beverages made from them.

Edited November 13, 2009 by Teotzlcoatl

[Xenodimensional]

can anyone from Oz remember the name of the fish off norfolk island that induces lucid dreams (cant remember wether it was disscussed here or on another forum?)

Why yes I can, it is the Dreamfish (Kyphosus fuscus). Most reports I have read about it suggest bufo or a C12H16N2 type of thing as being the active. More info here and here.

Do humans count as a psychoactive animal?

[AndyAmine.]

Its not psychoactive as such but thought I would mention a curiosity I saw on TV the other day.

The S.American/Brazilian Wandering Spider has a bite that will give a man a powerful erection for quite some time (as well as making him extremely ill)

Apparently it has been used/sold as a 'spanishfly' or 'natural Viagra' type tonic for a long time.

[vual]

http://www.vbs.tv/watch/hamilton-s-pharmac...-diaries-1-of-3

^ A Doco on the Sapo Frog... welld one, the guy who reports does a heroic dose.

[Teotzlcoatl]

That is really cool Andy, thanks for adding that!

I'm find some really crazy stuff now that I'm digging into this!

A species of duck lives in the swamps and lagoons near Mazatlan. Their meat is said to be poisonous, and eating it has been known to produce symptoms of having been poisoned or drugged. This was long a mystery, but now it is known to be due to Datura poisoning. The ducks eat the leaves and seeds of Datura ceratocaula, and their flesh contains a toxic level of poison from this diet.

Could this be "Oconenetl"?! Could this be the fabled psychoactive bird spoke of by the ancient Aztecs?!

A sixteenth century account of the Aztecs by Diego Munoz Camargo describes how eating the flesh of the bird named oconenetl induces visions. It is not known to which kind of bird this refers, beyond the description of it as being fed and black.

Perhaps these are the birds of legend! (I can't find a species name for the "ducks" of Mazatlan which eat Datura).

Edited November 10, 2009 by Teotzlcoatl

[mr b.caapi]

They look like Black swans to me ? Native only to Western Australia.

[Smiling Cloud]

There is a snake that is caught up in northern qld and used as a substitute for alcohol by some aboriginals. They catch a heap of them, put them in a bucket or bin, and then proceed to get bitten. Each snake has 2 good bites and then it is let go. Guys can sit around for a few hours getting bitten. THe effects are said to be much like alcohol without the sickness. I'm not going to put the name as i don't want to write the wrong thing and have someone die.

[J Smith]

Didn't Sly Moorcock ask for a meal of swan in Stark?

[Teotzlcoatl]

There is a snake that is caught up in northern qld and used as a substitute for alcohol by some aboriginals. They catch a heap of them, put them in a bucket or bin, and then proceed to get bitten. Each snake has 2 good bites and then it is let go. Guys can sit around for a few hours getting bitten. THe effects are said to be much like alcohol without the sickness. I'm not going to put the name as i don't want to write the wrong thing and have someone die.

That is really very interesting!

I'd love to hear more!

Keep the psychoactive animal reports coming!

[FancyPants]

I don't see why B. marinus shouldn't get included in a list of psychoactive animal. Maybe there were people in wherever-cane toads-come-from who did use to use it as an intoxicant?

Anybody know?

[HiS]

I don't see why B. marinus shouldn't get included in a list of psychoactive animal. Maybe there were people in wherever-cane toads-come-from who did use to use it as an intoxicant?

Anybody know?

B. marinus

http://www.wayeb.org/download/theses/blainey_2005.pdf

[Teotzlcoatl]

Thanks for posting that His!

I don't see why B. marinus shouldn't get included in a list of psychoactive animal. Maybe there were people in wherever-cane toads-come-from who did use to use it as an intoxicant?

Davis and Weil (1992) are correct in their assessment of Bufo marinus toxin as

being too poisonous to be ingested in an unmodified form and that bufotenine might not

be entheogenic after all, but they do point to an interesting Bufo species found in the

American mid-west called Bufo alvarius.

Do you have reports of Bufo marinus being used as a psychoactive? If so... how?

[HiS]

Thanks for posting that His!

Do you have reports of Bufo marinus being used as a psychoactive? If so... how?

they used that toad's for something.....maybe intoxication, maybe some ritual's, who know......

what I know : my dog like to chew on Bufo Bufo and then act like crazy (not tried that by myself)

here about salamander's (isnt they toxic too ?) :

http://www.x-sandra.com/valencic/valencic/salamander.htm

Edited November 11, 2009 by HiS

[El Presidente Hillbillios]

Below is a list of animals which are psychoactive for humans (instead of animals which use psychoactives).

Rana species ~ "?"

This one is really interesting to me do you have any more details, what country were they used?

[tripsis]

This one is really interesting to me do you have any more details, what country were they used?

According to Snu Vogelbreinder's 'Garden of Eden' (which is well and truly worth getting) Rana temporaria contains bufotenine, while other Rana spp. have been found to contain peptides such as ranatensin, bradykinins and bombesins. the leg flesh of Rana spp. is apparently an aphrodisiac.

[Fenris]

I think it's time for you boys to share my last taste...

of the true black meat.

The flesh of the giant aquatic Brazilian centipede.

From The Naked Lunch, sorry to go off topic.

[Fenris]

To make amends for my indiscretion

Shamanic/psychoactive properties of red harvester ants

http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=646

[FancyPants]

Thanx Teotz, seen it on the nexus the other day was wondering if u were gonna post it here 2.

there doesnt seem to be much info around on the subject but im really interested

id like to please add bufo marinus to the list i know its somwhat debated on this forum but ive personally had success with this species.

can anyone from Oz remember the name of the fish off norfolk island that induces lucid dreams (cant remember wether it was disscussed here or on another forum?)

and possibly the humble centerpede some animal from the amazon use em to get lit, they appear numerous times in literature, and from what ive been told a bite causes extreame swelling/delerium/and colour halucinations.

Thanks for posting that His!

Do you have reports of Bufo marinus being used as a psychoactive? If so... how?

[rahli]

Bufo marinus has been recently changed to Rhinella marina.

Check pages 107-109 of 'The Garden of Eden' by Snu Voogelbreinder. Great book and very up to date.

Edited November 13, 2009 by rahli

[lofty86]

yeah toatz me and some mates have used B.marinus and i can assure you bufotenine is psychedelic, and there use is apparently gaining popularity amoungst aboriginal communities in the NT.

[Teotzlcoatl]

The cane toad (Bufo marinus), also known as the Giant Neotropical Toad or Marine Toad, is a large, terrestrial true toad native to Central and South America.

It's not traditionally used anywhere from what I can tell, certainly not used by the ancient aboriginals of Oz.

But I suppose I'll add it for now... but it may be removed unless I get some more evidence.