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i definately agree with the whole not going and just eating something based on that it looks the same as a picture

but i think i have to dissagree with gymno's being hard to identify without a scope

especially purpuratus once you find some purpuratus they are incredibly easy to identify

aswell as thier overall appearance there are some tell tale signs that are extremely easy to spot

like the fact that almost every pin is blue in its early stages

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You can pull up cheps album,but can't look at individual images close.3 look a lot like purps to me,I know that area and it's around the corner....better go have a look!

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I just edited my post to fix the photos. Sorry about that guys!

I haven't noticed any bluing yet but I'm probably just being ignorant.

I'm trying my hand at making a sporeprint though so if any one would like to study it they're welcome to :)

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Hey Chep,

Yeah those last three pics look like gym.purps - great find! I've found similar around bibra/north lake, and the perth urban fungi list the ones that look like that as gym.purp.cf (confirm?)

If you spore print it it should be a orange. I've read rusty orange, but in my mind rusty is darker... mine look a regular orange, if anything with a yellow tinge.

I'm going for a bush walk tomorrow ;-)

Spore print wise - yes you want to spore print each one you find. You can trade em for other prints with relative ease, and these ones are pretty rare on the global scale.

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looks like you nailed it with that last one chep im gonna say purp for sure :)

i have a feeling its gonna be a big year for the perth purps

i can see theres gonna be alot of finds this year :)

theyre pretty easy to find so get hunting people

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Hi Myco

It has been years from our last conversation.

I have a bit of a sad news my friend

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Alantopus :unsure:

But the good news is that it is growing exactly on the same environment as Purpuratus.

You are almost there. Don't give up my friend

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i definately agree with the whole not going and just eating something based on that it looks the same as a picture

but i think i have to dissagree with gymno's being hard to identify without a scope

especially purpuratus once you find some purpuratus they are incredibly easy to identify

aswell as thier overall appearance there are some tell tale signs that are extremely easy to spot

like the fact that almost every pin is blue in its early stages

 

OK. I'm still learning too. But I was surprised to see a number of undescribed 'phrase name' species - I'll try and get hold of the list - which may make you feel less certain! There are a lot more species out there than most people are aware of, and some of them look pretty similar.

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With the purp interest goin through the roof and I think BT commenting on their possible low flush rate,I think we mite start thinking about (as some are),tryin to print anything of real interest(from the wild) and leaving as much as poss in the wild.we still have much to learn,I can see my local areas bein void of great photo ops and loosing the chance to observe em in habitat.as their active properties are up for debate,i want to know what their legal status is with regard to cultivation, take a print or two and study from there,I think the"take only what you need to survive/study" thing should apply,I've never seen them in large amounts,how shitty will it be if even from minimal collection we see them disappear from known areas,BT ,Sidways,Myco....what's peeps knowledge on patch densities ,individual mushroom lifespan and flush frequency????ive only seen low patch densities and not had the chance to observe the othere two....

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cultivation would be illegal if they are active.

people should be taking a print and a specimen from the patch they find, dry out the fruit and store it with name, where it was picked and date

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Alantopus :unsure:

 

haha still seeing G. allantopus everywhere mate..

allantopus should at least vaguely fit this description (of the cap)

young collections covered with a fine, silky, radially fibrillose to slightly tomentose

universal veil which disappears with age, leaving small white patches 1-2 mm in from the margin or

occasionally fine, white, appendiculate remains. These are lost in mature collections leaving a radially fibrillose

surface which is dull, dry, not hygrophanous, finely punctate squamulose at the disc under a hand lens;

http://www.australas...pdf/20/1/29.pdf

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Hi all, just went to my favorite patch where ALL the Gym's stain Blue/Green

found about 35 all up

I think only a couple are purpuratus as most dont have a ring/veil

but ALL are active Gym's im pretty sure

some pics

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Cheers for the help guys! :)

The spore print was indeed a orange rusty kinda colour but I think I left the cap sitting for too long because there was a patch on the print that looked like it had gotten wet and made a solid orange circle.

That shouldn't be much of a problem should it?

Nice patch Bush Turkey!

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Hi Myco

It has been years from our last conversation.

I have a bit of a sad news my friend

Alantopus :unsure:

But the good news is that it is growing exactly on the same environment as Purpuratus.

You are almost there. Don't give up my friend

 

What makes you think they are allantopus??? I would say they are not allantopus. I was looking at the first couple pages of this thread and noticed you called another Gym allantopus. I can see a clear blue staining on the so called allantopus on the first page so it cant be allantopus

i hate writing allantopus now :P

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found these on another forum

real interesting read>

RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN AUSTRALIAN AND NORTHERN HEMISPHERE GYMNOPILUS SPECIES

NEW SPECIES AND COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS REGARDING EARLIER NAMES

http://www.australasianmycology.com/pages/pdf/20/1/29.pdf

A TALE OF TWO SPECIES—POSSIBLE ORIGINS OF RED TO PURPLE-COLOURED

GYMNOPILUS SPECIES IN EUROPE

http://www.australasianmycology.com/pages/pdf/22/2/57.pdf

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Waking up this morning with our house surround by a thick fog @ 8am i thought it would be a good day for a hunt.

I wasn't disappointed when these 2 little purps..

 

WP 000894

pointed me in the direction of the rest of this flush

 

WP 000900

I did make an observation in the range of colouring apparent in gyms.

All of these mushrooms were pulled out of a large pile of paperbarks that had been cleared.

only ones found on the perimeter of the patch in full/part sun had the distinctive purple colour.

All of the ones pulled from under logs with little to no chance of seeing the sun are a more rusty brown colour.

so far the majority appear to be staining up.

a small pin on this one is a very distinctive blue

 

WP 000905

 

WP 000895

 

WP 000896

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Hi Myco

It has been years from our last conversation.

I have a bit of a sad news my friend

gallery_7473_440_180111.jpg

Alantopus :unsure:

But the good news is that it is growing exactly on the same environment as Purpuratus.

You are almost there. Don't give up my friend

 

That's a purp mate

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I have a bunch off very interesting photos from a walk through my gym spot,I'm on an iPhone at mo , need to resize etc from lappy but some of these images have got me askin questions,I've been to the spot twice this week,I've seen some things like clear feeding by unknown animals on

Purps and them alone,no other gyms touched,photos will make things clear,all kinds of things I need the Perth purp crew to comment on,prints being taken,I THINK 3 diff gyms,can't wait to get em up,blue pins,the feeding on purps is odd as in the images you will see they were "chewed" on but not ingested as the pieces were dropped on site,I saw this multiple times , but only on the purps as said ,allans were untouched,anyway photos by weekend,with one more walk out there to see how things have developed.........

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Does anyone c annulus like Wikipedia say they have on our wa specimens

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RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN AUSTRALIAN AND NORTHERN HEMISPHERE GYMNOPILUS SPECIES

NEW SPECIES AND COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS REGARDING EARLIER NAMES

http://www.australas...pdf/20/1/29.pdf

 

Ah yes this is one of the ones I was reading recently. Betty Rees is apparently one of the people with the most knowledge about WA Gyms.

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I don't have photos just yet but there are gyms EVERYWHERE.

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and when i say gyms i mean i've seen little colonies of like 20+ all growing in sweet harmony.

a few juno's around as well just to make things a bit more fun.

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also does anyone know Dr Neale Bougher???

im chasing this article>>

Bougher NL (2011). Fungi of Perth's Banksia woodlands.

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