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Gymnopilus Purpuratus information?

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Can anyone give me any information on this mushroom, I've been trying to find this mushroom (for years) with no luck and there seems to be very little information about it on this site, google or anywhere else I've looked.

A location would be great although I dont expect it, what I really need to know is does this mushroom really stain blue, what has it been seen growing on in Vic, do the gills really stay yellow or does any one have any photos of Gymnopilus Purpuratus.

Really even if some one can confirm Gymnopilus Purpuratus grows in Victoria that would be great.

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bullshit you've tried google......eh WTF you can't find a photo...just one? sheesh i found plenty and i'm not going to post them either.

I suggest tryng to get a look at "Toadstools and Mushrooms and other Larger Fungi of South Australia Parts 1 & 2" by John Burton Cleland or

Did I say I havent seen a photo mate.

when I do a image search on google you get 5 fucking pictures!!!!

Listen I have read everything on this shroom and maybe I didnt make my self clear, what I was hoping for was some personal conformation that this mushroom grows in VICTORIA.

Dont try telling me that there is not a lack of information of this mushroom on the net.

I just made the mistake of thinking that some one here might have information on this shroom from experience instead of reading it out of some out dated book... sorry about that!

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Yeap, and the thing I notice when I'm flicking around this site is I cant find anyone who has claimed to have found this shroom, which makes me believe its probably a very rare.

To be totally honest I'm starting to think that it doesnt grow in victoria, none of the national parks report finding it.

Guess I will have to head across Australia to the Big Swamp Wildlife Park if I want to get my hands on this shroom.

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Pretty sure can confirm they grow in southern Vic..

Thanks man that gives me hope.

west or east of melbourne :lol:

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Cant say myself, just a sighted while picking had plenty of subs and thought they were pretty weak so didnt bother..

actually heard a story recently about ingesting largish purple shrooms, person said it was magic and the description certainly wasn't of a sub. eg large and purple :P These guys could quite easily ended up in the ER as they were no experts on ID just got lucky from what I gather...

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ive found a few blueing/greening gyms around melb, not sure if they were purpurata or not. im pretty sure i found a couple purps in adelaide, took photos but theyre still undeveloped along with a dozen other mushroom rolls. havent seen any for a couple of years though around melb. I went to an old spot in bundoora mid autumn this year but too dry. whereabouts you located jabez ive found em mostly northern suburbs.

heres a good one i found a few years back, on pine

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and some more bluers , off either fallen acacia or euc.

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more pics at the shroomery

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some cool baby gyms.

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late start to the season this year with the dry, these are probably coming up right about now

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Personally, although the find of some fungi that are hallucinogenic in Oz other than the main contenders is always a huge buzz, this species in particular are not worth targeting in your hunts if that is the primary reason for you hunting in the first place.

Of course, if your hunting for anything and everything just to document for the heck of it, then go nuts. :) :) :)

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Thats a awesome picture and I'm in the eastern suburbs, but I drive all around melbourne every day (for work) come to think of it I got about 15 chunky subs from somerton today.

Personally, although the find of some fungi that are hallucinogenic in Oz other than the main contenders is always a huge buzz, this species in particular are not worth targeting in your hunts if that is the primary reason for you hunting in the first place.

Of course, if your hunting for anything and everything just to document for the heck of it, then go nuts.

To be totally honest at this stage I just need to know I can find it. But really even though the raw material may be of no real use as you say, maybe the size of the gym might make it more useful than say a sub in some situations.

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I don't honestly know a hell of a lot about gyms, just from what I've read the chance of finding an active specimen is pretty low, and the amounts of actives vary greatly from one specimen to the next - plus from what I have read in most articles (cant quote any at the moment - this is just from memory, but mainly on the shroomery) they generally aren't considered very potent.

The taste is also a major reason to avoid these - they are very bitter and would probably require an extract or tea to be made to make them more palatable.

This being said, I reckon we still definitely need some more information on these and if anyone finds a bluing specimen a bioassay would be helpful!!

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Very Interesting Ferret....

I'm still not convinced its a species worth targeting solely for its 'uplifting' properties - especially if you live in melbs where there seems to be no shortage of subs around.

I'd love to have an experience with these to make up my own mind - I am sure they have been found in WA too, but the Gymnopilus junonius are all I have been able to find and none of the specimens blue at all - although they are very abundant.

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i spose it comes down to some people having a broader interest in fungi and/or their chemistry, while others just wanna go pick subs at the local shopping centre carpark to trip balls :wink:

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O.k heres what happend, yesterday after hearing from ferret that the blue staining gyms grow in the northern suburbs (thanks mate) :) I decided to stop off there on my lunch break. I had no luck with the gyms but plenty of subs, they get really big and chuncky up there.

Anyway, today while working out another good run I spotted a shroom on the drying table that was not a sub, I have no idea how I didnt see it before :drool2:

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The bottom one is obviously a sub

What are trip!!!

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Very Interesting Ferret....

I'm still not convinced its a species worth targeting solely for its 'uplifting' properties - especially if you live in melbs where there seems to be no shortage of subs around.

I'd love to have an experience with these to make up my own mind - I am sure they have been found in WA too, but the Gymnopilus junonius are all I have been able to find and none of the specimens blue at all - although they are very abundant.

And some others being scared off by weird knocks on the door at 3am... Having examined these basicallt ehy exhibited small plueorcystidial forms but otherwise were purpuratus.

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found this in the garden yesterday.. at some stage in the last couple of years i scattered some old gym fruitbodies around my garden..

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wee bit of staining on this one

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got some prints if anyone wants one?

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pretty sure they are . ones i found growing from logs were beefier than these, but these are identical to ones i found growing off pine cones in the reserve..

looks 'similar' to G. dilepis in Fuhrer's field guide.. but the larger ones pictured above in post#14 are quite distinctly different in my opinion.. would not be surprised if were actually looking at 2 or 3 different blueing gym species in the area..

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Cool man. yeah they do look pretty similar to the dried ones I saw. Although the one on post 13 looks really impressive.

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yep pretty sure theyre of the same collection i gave you for analysis.

and every one of my blueing gym pics were from the reserve..

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ive been trawling for info on Gym's in Australia since i found some more specimens id like to ID finally. came across this paper if anyone is as interested in the red/purple species we have here, i.e. dilepis, purpuratus, mullaunius, moabus, megasporus, vinaceus nom prov., norfolkensis.. its all pretty much spelled out here

Rees et al. A TALE OF TWO SPECIES—POSSIBLE ORIGINS OF RED TO PURPLE-COLOURED GYMNOPILUS SPECIES IN EUROPE. Australasian Mycologist

time to dust off the 'scope!

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I've only ever found G. Purpuratus twice back in 2007 in the northern suburbs of melbourne. It seems like a very rare mushroom, it'd be good to know if anyone else has had any luck?

This is one of the G. Purpuratus specimens I collected in 2007.

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