Please do something about WS's trolling.

[The Dude]

Ace: No need to put him outside just yet, he only makes a mess very occasionally, and I'm sure we can all deal with that.

Goddamn continued metaphorical speak!! Nah I like talking bout shit symbolically too. Life is a lot like an orange, with puppy dogs that piss on it.

and for the final time about WS.. who bloody cares. I've cared too much, i still believe in some kind of absolute right to free speech and all the offence it may cause. I think if anyone is offended by anything it is THEIR fault. true these are subconsciously determined instantaneous emotional reactions, which we all have. I guess what I'm saying is, words can only hurt so much anyway, no real harm is being done, by merely introducing a thought or 'meme' into your head. It is the goal of myself at least to be selective of how i let things effect me. Sort of like the goal of medidtation to reach an empty awareness w/out judgement, if i can acheive that, then i can better decide which things are worthy of my emotional investment.. I don't reckon these troll-realted threads are worthy of my investment. and either of yours really so i hope i can help to someway steer everyone out of this stupid black hole of precious time wastage.

WS aint a troll. He copy+pastes articles ripped from other sources, repeats the same shit on different forums (as I have done, to answer questions already answered somewhere else), not always quoting from where either, cuz it's not always necessary.

Also I like his style its like ... how to say this, you know when u have a collage image or some kind of dali-esque doubleimage with something implied by the shapes of another. With WS's ramblings it's like you have to squint at the image to see whats underneath, the ramling is more like distractions maybe. But theres always something there, little comments here and questions that are worth 'just being aksed'.

Edited May 17, 2007 by El Duderino

[Jesus On Peyote]

Ok, fine im going to just crawl back into my hole and use this forum as a static library n never mention another word to anyone or about anything. (ill do my talking on a real forum that lets you speak)

what i cant see is how you all talk about relevant information and posts and yet WS has the least relevance in his posts,no matter how much people try to single him out as being "special".

chemical shaman your a fag. ( that shouldent offend by the standards set ).

have fun aristocrats.

yet again im left to

Cyas

[Guest Warrioe-Sage]

Ok, fine im going to just crawl back into my hole and use this forum as a static library n never mention another word to anyone or about anything. (ill do my talking on a real forum that lets you speak)

what i cant see is how you all talk about relevant information and posts and yet WS has the least relevance in his posts,no matter how much people try to single him out as being "special".

chemical shaman your a fag. ( that shouldent offend by the standards set ).

have fun aristocrats.

yet again im left to

Cyas

Going on a lil boat ride!?row row row ya boat!? life is just a ..arrrrrr!?..hehe!?..just askn.

http://www.riverstyx.com/

Ace: No need to put him outside just yet, he only makes a mess very occasionally, and I'm sure we can all deal with that.

Goddamn continued metaphorical speak!! Nah I like talking bout shit symbolically too. Life is a lot like an orange, with puppy dogs that piss on it.

and for the final time about WS.. who bloody cares. I've cared too much, i still believe in some kind of absolute right to free speech and all the offence it may cause. I think if anyone is offended by anything it is THEIR fault. true these are subconsciously determined instantaneous emotional reactions, which we all have. I guess what I'm saying is, words can only hurt so much anyway, no real harm is being done, by merely introducing a thought or 'meme' into your head. It is the goal of myself at least to be selective of how i let things effect me. Sort of like the goal of medidtation to reach an empty awareness w/out judgement, if i can acheive that, then i can better decide which things are worthy of my emotional investment.. I don't reckon these troll-realted threads are worthy of my investment. and either of yours really so i hope i can help to someway steer everyone out of this stupid black hole of precious time wastage.

WS aint a troll. He copy+pastes articles ripped from other sources, repeats the same shit on different forums (as I have done, to answer questions already answered somewhere else), not always quoting from where either, cuz it's not always necessary.

Also I like his style its like ... how to say this, you know when u have a collage image or some kind of dali-esque doubleimage with something implied by the shapes of another. With WS's ramblings it's like you have to squint at the image to see whats underneath, the ramling is more like distractions maybe. But theres always something there, little comments here and questions that are worth 'just being aksed'.

Where do humans really live? The literal and obvious answer might be “on this planet," or "within society.” In fact, except for rare moments within our immediate experience, we dwell within a world of, as Wittgenstein would say, "private language." Words and syntax are our primary tools of mediation with the external world, language in the form of concepts, beliefs and ideas that filter and interpret all of our five-sense input. We perceive the outside world to be arriving directly and pure, but it is immediatly warped and unconsiously reconfigured by us into a pre-digested form. It might "appear" that we're seeing direct reality, but it's actually just us peering back through our own looking glass. Even when we become aware that we live mostly in our own reflection, within our own personal intellect-generated world, that awareness still won't much change things. Where do humans really live? !?..hehe!?..just askn

Edited May 17, 2007 by Torsten

[Chemical Shaman]

OK ladies and gents, clearly there has been a lot of things said about the 'noise' of the forums. No doubt I'd come into that

This stuff about chemical shaman being the 'mascot' for the forums is a load of shit IMO. Sure, I know little about him, and had never even heard of him until recently (in the last 2-3 months), where he posted a few rather derogitory remarks. I personally got offended by them then, and I have done once again. The guy is a dick IMO - he has some fantastic points at times, but he just goes about explaining his POV in a very abusive way. Perhaps I just need to grow some stones and take it with a grain of salt. Either way, I think the rules aught to be applied for him, just as they are for everyone else.

Ok firstly, are you hitting on me here or some shit Ace? Coz im not really good at telling, when it's over an internet forum. Are you making the "I want to make cyber sex to you" eyes at me???

This stuff about chemical shaman being the 'mascot' for the forums is a load of shit IMO.

Also in my "O". I mean I was never even given like a fluffy bunny costume or anything to wear. What the hell kind of mascot doesn't have a cute costume to wear?? Maybe you could take the mascot reigns for me Ace, it's pretty straight forward, all you'll need to do is come here once in a while, piss on some sort of rug and piss off really sensitive people. Or you could simply keep on wearing those cotton-ball crosstrainers, so you can be safely assured of never stepping on anybodies toes! Imagine how terrible THAT would be!

where he posted a few rather derogitory remarks. I personally got offended by them then, and I have done once again.

Ok how about what I do then, is every time I make a post that I think you are going to read, I simply engage in this ridiculous ego-pampering, self confidence boosting, rockem sockem feel good times modality that most people seem fit to lace their posts with. Then in a few years time when you're all grown up I can start speaking to you like you're an adult, instead of complimenting your handbag and shoes as a preface to every conversation.

I never really understood this whole "offence" thing much, to me it's a bigger fucken joke than cancer and aids combined. It just doesn't seem to make much sense. To me "offence" is the 'Claytons' emotion. It's the emotion you have when you're not really having an emotion.... It feels like an emotion because it's occupying the same sort of space that most genuine emotions take up, but there's nothing really IN it. One minute you're sitting there feeling fine, the next minute somebody calls you a poohead..... you know you need to react somehow......but how........ ah offence!.... this seems like the appropriate emotion to engage in..... now im all offended ....... look at how offended I am! .....

Seems to me like a bigger waste of time than trying to talk Torsten into being a hetero.

With the amount of time I saved this week alone in not being offended by anything, I managed to get two loads of washing done and trimmed my fucken toe-nails. You should try it some time, you'll be amazed at how much better you feel when you realise what a complete waste of time it's been boo-fucken-hooing all these years.

The guy is a dick IMO -

Again im not sure whether or not you're coming onto me. Are you? All I can make out is that you want to "IMO" my dick or something (whatever that means). I think that's what you're saying.

Perhaps I just need to grow some stones and take it with a grain of salt.

Perhaps you do, unless you go around sobbing and feeling all offended everytime somebody hands you a grain of salt. If this is the case you should take it with a grain of pepper instead!

Either way, I think the rules aught to be applied for him, just as they are for everyone else.

Correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure I have just as many Warn points as JoP. I've printed them out and stuck them to my wall like any proud father should.

I'm jumping off my soapbox now. I have taken a lot from this thread, and think it was worthwhile in creating it. Thank you to all (including Chemical Shaman, Torsten and JoP) for opening my eyes to the fact that this is a forum, not a chatroom and that we need to lower the crap-factor. I'll do my best, as should the rest of us 'newbs who just seem to talk shit' smile.gif I just hope that a few folks are able to enjoy what I post and take my occasional post saying simple things like 'nice pics mate' or 'no, I dont think that would work for X reason' and the rest of it.

Look. Im sincerely glad that you get the message behind all of this. Too bad you felt the need to get offended along the way. Initially I would definately have put your name in my post when I was naming the culprits that are behind all of the shit. But I didn't. Because I like you........ and it's not like you post garbage...... you just post too much. Sure you've been responsible for a great deal of the 'noise' but your noise is a hell of a lot more palatable then the idiotic teenage noise being generated by the main three. I didn't really have much of a problem with your noise anyway, I always thought it a shame you felt the need to jump on the 'one sentance band-wagon' with the three one sentance amigo's that use the forum as a chat room.

The other day I was sitting on my porch drinking a beer when this dude walks along and starts taking apart my gate. "What the fuck???" I thought...... I was going to say something to him but I didn't want him to take a fence.

badoom chink

-Chemical Shaman

[chilli]

LMAO

[Chemical Shaman]

Can you share these two nuggets with people like me who missed them?

Sure here they are:

Best poll ever to be on SAB

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...amp;#entry91224

One of my favourite posts here

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...amp;#entry97396

enjoy

-Chemical Shaman

[Torsten]

.....

-Chemical Shaman

[Vertmorpheus]

Gotta say, this just made me laugh until I needed a glass of water...

"I never really understood this whole "offence" thing much, to me it's a bigger fucken joke than cancer and aids combined. It just doesn't seem to make much sense. To me "offence" is the 'Claytons' emotion. It's the emotion you have when you're not really having an emotion.... It feels like an emotion because it's occupying the same sort of space that most genuine emotions take up, but there's nothing really IN it. "

[The Dude]

Sure here they are:

Best poll ever to be on SAB

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...amp;#entry91224

One of my favourite posts here

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...amp;#entry97396

enjoy

-Chemical Shaman

Least something good came out of this thread, they were interesting reads.

[Jesus On Peyote]

Guy in Bar: See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!

hes turning the forum to shit.

[Guest Warrioe-Sage]

hes turning the forum to shit.

What a peice of luck were start our election campain today!?...the forum could use someone of your talents?!

Your kind of outlook is very depressing dont cha thunk!?

Elections election el - ections!?

We make our choices every 12 days!?.hehe..Every citizen has a choice!?Are you going to run !?..hehe!?...just askn

I try to run the first chancce I get... but what I mean is run for office.!?..hehe!?...just askn

My office.. Lol hey dikchees !? Humour is the very essence of a democratic society.!?..hehe!?...just askn

Listen to the people

Torsten, Torsten Torsten.

It looks like anenmormous

majority.!?..hehe!?...just askn

Thats what worrys me.

Its bad for moral... all these good people dont seem to appreciate the value of free elections...they think its a game..

Everyone votes for a dictator?!?..hehe!?...just askn

Not at all its just that there resistence is low!?Come on my good fellow you are just the candicate we need!?

You will be the boss!?If you win number 1 will no longer be a mystery to you!?..know what I mean!?!?..hehe!?...just askn

Edited May 17, 2007 by Warrioe-Sage

[Jesus On Peyote]

you sound as annoying as a Scientologist.. or more like a rejected Scientologist

Edited May 17, 2007 by Jesus On Peyote

[Torsten]

you sound as annoying as a Scientologist.. or more like a rejected Scientologist

I would have thought a rejected scientologist is better than an accepted one

hes turning the forum to shit.

Is that 'team america' quote from him? If not then it would seem the author of that quote has more shit turning responsibility than WS.

And no, I am not picking on you. I'd respond to WS's posts too if I had any idea what he is on about

[Ace]

Peace Chem Shaman I am glad that you do find a few of my posts worthwhile, it truly does make being a part of this place worthwhile. No, I wasnt hitting on you mate, as much as that would be great for some shits and giggles But I'll try to keep it in my pants, at least for now

About the 'offence' thing - I totally see your point. To be honest, I guess I just got cranky about the whole thing because I'm not used to someone with such a sharp tongue. Its actually kind of refreshing to have it all laid out on the table every now and again, even if it means that I (or anyone else) cop a few harsh remarks along the way. All for the better, just a matter of seeing it from the right angle

The other day I was sitting on my porch drinking a beer when this dude walks along and starts taking apart my gate. "What the fuck???" I thought...... I was going to say something to him but I didn't want him to take a fence.

*ace giggles like a little schoolgirl* Fucking good one!

[Jesus On Peyote]

Torsten, that quote was too and about him. to put it into simple analogy and humorous terms.

since when have people been linking to porn videos and shit on this forum and is that the kind of future posts people want in here?

and i would have thought a rejected scientologist would have been better then a normal one too, but i guess when your out the club you turn out like him.

its your forum, do what you please. ( dident you say he was on his last warning post a few weeks ago?)

ill end this disscussion with reposting that quote coz it just makes me laugh

Guy in Bar: See, there's three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, Chuck. And if they didn't fuck the assholes, you know what you'd get? You'd get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!

[Guest Warrioe-Sage]

Torsten, that quote was too and about him. to put it into simple analogy and humorous terms.

since when have people been linking to porn videos and shit on this forum and is that the kind of future posts people want in here?

and i would have thought a rejected scientologist would have been better then a normal one too, but i guess when your out the club you turn out like him.

its your forum, do what you please. ( dident you say he was on his last warning post a few weeks ago?)

ill end this disscussion with reposting that quote coz it just makes me laugh

JOP attempts to destroy the stargate with a mighty WACO with his pin dik americana agenda..againa!? there are no stargates!?we may not know what's BURIED inner or outer but we DO know what's BURROW'D like a rut of a pack mule of payoff in the here and now most subscribe to thru fear!?hehe!!....just askn..

i've ALWAYS had sticky anything noodly!?and i will try reading your quopte and having a laugh!?thanks!!and i must ADD that this thread points to another FACTOR in that the incredibility of any CLAIM is never BORN out by 1 or 2 ASSERTIONS!?it may leave an impression of question but that is soon forgotten!?UNLESS the PRESSURE of the so seen ODDITY is NOT removed from the path of least resistance!?and then the real learning process takes place...or is ABORTED!?such is the way of mind!?and such is the way of mind made permanent by asserted authority!?for the good of all or not!?where is the line in the sand!?and who is the drawer of that line!?and what are the FORseen consequences of CROSSING any LINE!?and WHY is that an IMPEDIMENT!?what is gained and what is lost!?is it a question of ECONOMICS!?what is the BASIS of all ECONOMICS!?ownership of WHAT!?PRIVACY!?a piece of the ROCK!?what is the fear/innocense that drives MOST to FOLLOW any THREAT to their own PERCEIVED RESPECTABILITY!?who or WHAT are the SEEN/perceived AUTHORS of RESPECT!?have I become the DREADED spaghetti MONSTER!?hehe!!....just askn...

[Ace]

So, I guess ^this^ is the kind of shit that Andy and most of us want to see stopped? In all seriousness, does anyone actually know what WS is trying to say? Has anyone ever understood his actual replies? I think JoP has copped a hell of a flogging for standing against WS and his 'posts' as has GreenDreams and a few others. But why? They have very valid points - WS just posts more rubbish on here than anyone else combined. Even if he does so less often than others, at least we can understand JoP's posts. I'm in total agreeance with Andy - lets see this bush pruned before it becomes an invasive weed (even moreso).

*Runs to shed looking for electric hedge clippers*

[Guest Warrioe-Sage]

So, I guess ^this^ is the kind of shit that Andy and most of us want to see stopped? In all seriousness, does anyone actually know what WS is trying to say? Has anyone ever understood his actual replies? I think JoP has copped a hell of a flogging for standing against WS and his 'posts' as has GreenDreams and a few others. But why? They have very valid points - WS just posts more rubbish on here than anyone else combined. Even if he does so less often than others, at least we can understand JoP's posts. I'm in total agreeance with Andy - lets see this bush pruned before it becomes an invasive weed (even moreso).

*Runs to shed looking for electric hedge clippers*

Dont trip on ya kiddy luvin mags!?You have some valid points!.? be carefull you dont bust ya bubble with em?!but anywayz depends on how you define bush!?is it a burning bush!? or anything foreign to god!?bible says man became foreign to god!?thus an alien!?on the subject of faith however,you always POINT to the BAD side!?why is that!?would you expect an alien to take his stolen faith and do any good with it!?god=faith!?and right now he is NOT bein picky about how you use it!?was he ever!?that's why you NEED the book!?or at least a trimmed down version!? hence the clippers!?unless you BELEIVE in trial and error-do it yourself living!?is that how you learned to fly!?your clear and understanding blossum blooms out of your self righteous pretty ASS while others are commanded to wither!?skate or die!? can ya watch me shit in ya eye!? hehe!!....just askn...

[Ace]

WS, I have no idea what it is you're trying to say. No, the bush I was referring to wasnt a burning bush, a religious bush or anything other than the weedy infestation that is you. You are one of the most invasive and irritating forms of weed I've ever come across, including lantana, fireweed and every plant on THIS list. You have effectively polluted this forum with your rubbish posts, and have forced a few members to move away because your crap has choked them out. Kinda like an environmentally invasive weed?

on the subject of faith however,you always POINT to the BAD side!?why is that!?...that's why you NEED the book!?

To be honest, my life is more than fine without the need for religion or any bible or spiritual book. The day I need to turn to god or whatever leader is most popular at the time (would have happily worshipped Zeus back in the day, but that god has lost popularity, as will the one commonly followed these days), I'll be sure to ask you what you think I should do.

your clear and understanding blossum blooms out of your self righteous pretty ASS while others are commanded to wither!?

Seriously, what is that - an insult? Jeez mate, calm down, you're gonna make me cry

Best of luck in the future, I just hope that someone will make sense of your ramblings. BTW, you might want to wipe your mouth. You seem to have been dribbling shit for some time now, perhaps you might need to change your shirt too...

Anyway, the troll has been fed, I appologize to the zoo keepers, I promise I'll keep my comments to myself from here on out.

Edit: Dont trip on ya kiddy luvin mags!?

Eh? I can assure you that the last thing on my mind are little kiddies in magazines. I'll leave that for the sick fucks out there who need more than life behind bars...

Edited May 18, 2007 by Ace

[Guest Warrioe-Sage]

and that makes you WHAT!?in the eye's of WHO!?and where does it LEAD!?,it leads to an UNreliance on a god and a sorta common morality based on a SIMILAR appreciation of ANOTHER based SOULY on your OWN performance!?this is ECONOMICALLY required and JUSTIFIED!?hehe!!...just askn....

Quack Quack Flying ACE !! what kind of bird are you?hehe!!...just askn....

Birds without wings that fly over 200 mph and above clouds.

Their not birds Quack ACE their orbs. I saw one last April flying north at 400 pm. It wasn't a bird, plane, or superman, it was and orb.Or It could have been ACE spying on me!?hehe!!...just askn....

Ur post never say anything. Ever! Prove me wrong ACE. Ur a clueless gov neocon. Its written in almost every post you've made. Personally I don't think u got enough sense to get inside out of a rain shower. Start a thread ACE!

Come one ACE u can do it, just dont totally lie and it will get some hits, like all mine do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzEBSifiHc

How fast do u think ACE is going?

check the video again... are you flying BELOW or ABOVE the clouds.

But hey you fly a lot faster than any bird flys ACE.

I got my pilots license JOP. Only 150 hours, but 150 hours more than u.

Secret lovers MSG from ACE to JOP

Those ''birds'' are ''flying'' faster than birds fly.

Get use to it!!!

ACE u have never debunked anything? Anything? hehe!!...just askn....

In Oh !

-0- ACEl!

you FEAR to go roaming in the LOWLYING areas of existence outside your OWN world of ACCOMPLISHMENT and IT'S rewards!?and PROBABLY support their ELIMINATION by FORCE!?so like JOP youyr just sayin your AFRAID of HUMANITY as you se it's LOWEST expression!?hehe!!...just askn....

[Ace]

 

 

[Torsten]

I've had enough of people with maximum warning levels continually trying to push the envelope of insults and personal attacks.

Maybe you thought you were smart by your veiled pedophile insult to ace, but bottom line is that we don't need that sort of shit around here. All this negativity is caused by 2 or 3 people [as usual] and I really have no problem losing them even if they are also valued contributors - it's just not worth it. This has dragged on long enough.

JoP, one word of gloating out of you and you're gone too.

[The Dude]

JoP, one word of gloating out of you and you're gone too.

I'm confused, who's gone? did somebody get banned?

[Torsten]

I'm confused, who's gone? did somebody get banned?

WS went too far with the pedophile comment and was suspended. I am still considering whether this is permanent or not and will decide in the next few days.

It's pleasantly quiet at the moment and I'd like to enjoy that for just a couple more days at least

oh and as that was a general question about who got banned, you can also add homogenius to the list. He was a reincarnation of sobriquet and I tolerated him for as long as he kept his head down. But he had no interest in actually becoming a constructive member, so next time I won't give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Vertmorpheus]

The nicest places on earth tend to have the most mosquitoes. Sometimes you need to fog even if it takes out a few beneficial or ambiguous organisms. Nice place otherwise T, you just need to stop letting dickheads like me in mate

we need a thread on how to reuse or recycle useless threads...no, I have an idea already... stay tuned...

very glad to see that a line in the sand was eventually drawn.Might help prevent all kinds of bullshit.

maybe we need some sticky traps ;)

GD