Best time to harvest Maiden's Wattle

[Coschi]

I'm wondering when the alkaloid content be highest in the trunk bark of a Maiden's Wattle (or other interesting acacias?)

Based on season and rain / humidity / whatever else

Thanks!

[planthelper]

people seem to believe that the bottom of the trunk and the root bark contain more alkaloids, meaning less and less actives going towards the top of the tree...

so some people don't bother stripping the upper parts of a tree, which is a terrible waste, because once you killed a tree you take all you can...

bark of branches and even phyllodes can produce nice x-talls.

i asked once a accacia specialist the same question, about maidenii and he answered, winter time is the time. however i remeber aswell some people saying that maidenii is a waste of time and not a reliable source of dmt.

[Coschi]

Thanks planthelper, yeah i thought that may be the case (location of alkaloids), great news about the winter part though! To minimise harm to the source keeping away the base trunk bark and root bark are key i guess so hopefully concentration of alkaloids in upper branches is still usable..

[Dirty Old Man]

I would have to second the "maidenii is a waste of time don't bother harvesting the bark".

I have never witnessed anything more than a trace of yellow smelly oil from maidenii extractions.

[Pelinster]

Really!?

That's strange because I could have sworn I overheard one of our leading pioneers in this field say that Maidenii was the 'better' source only a couple of weeks ago.

[Dirty Old Man]

Really!?

That's strange because I could have sworn I overheard one of our leading pioneers in this field say that Maidenii was the 'better' source only a couple of weeks ago.

Really, where did you hear that? Was it online?

[Pelinster]

Well, they weren't talking directly to me so I don't want to put them in it. I just happened to hear it mentioned and I couldn't help but hear.

I'll PM you with more information.

[Rev]

look at location 1 and 2 vs location #3

NE vic maidenii is likely to be different to nnsw and SE qld maidenii

Maidenii is found all teh way from Vic to proserpine,qld which is far above planthelper

along the way it morphs widely in its leaf forms and habit

why not its alkaloid profile

[_e_]

ive come accross quite a few maidenii but so far only one has tested positive on the burn.. It was a large old sydney coast specimen..

As far as i have heard there are a lot of hit and misses on this one, so its always best to go for Obtus.

Also Planthelper in regards to your post, i concurr that the roots and base of the trees are where its at, but i also think that it is easy to find specimens already fallen or in their death throws thus removing the need to 'kill'.

If u put it out there that u want to come accross such wise old specimens, it happens, they come to you... Sure u might spend a week wondering through state forest, but once u find one fallen giant you find many!

I also tend to agree that winter time is the best... but as a disclaimer i must say ive had very little experience, just stumbled accross the right trees at the right times whilst hunting for seed, orchids and flowers for essence! ]

[PD.]

look at location 1 and 2 vs location #3

NE vic maidenii is likely to be different to nnsw and SE qld maidenii

Maidenii is found all teh way from Vic to proserpine,qld which is far above planthelper

along the way it morphs widely in its leaf forms and habit

why not its alkaloid profile

Is A. maidenii really in NE vic?

or did you mean SE vic Rev?

I have heard there is more than just the few locations in the SE, and this plant is more widespread than originally thought. Any truth behind this?