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I wonder what's worse:

kissing a junky chick or licking out a prostitute...?

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:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

hehe

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thanks guys - that mental image makes me feel so much better :)

Im just hoping i wasnt the fifth offer for the night - althouhg i read recently that some chicks have been going around the city asking guys to go in an alley for a blow jo and then half way through a gang of hard nuts arrive and sort them right out - wallet and shoes and all that kinda thing.

it was on the corner of Russell and Little Bourke - a lovely area of the city.

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Bet you wish youd taken the blowjob now hey BM? :D

less complicated

while we are on the issue of all this stuff anyway

i recall in school sex ed they said for safe oral sex you should use a 'dental dam" when performing cunnilingus

WTF. i know what they are but has ANYONE? EVER?

ive never seen them for sale, ive never heard of them used and ive never been asked to use one

and it occurs to me what with the females tendency to 'spot' and what not that blood contact is a whole lot more likely with cunnilingus than with fellatio

a final point about pros and safe sex. i do wonder about the incidence of STDs in the sexworker population cos ive never heard of any friends getting them that way- mainly from bar chicks and even 'nice' girls

prob cos they live in denial rather than be practical like most sex workers

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Yeah i've also wondered where the hell one would get a dental dam. I haven't heard of anyone using one either. Maybe one could just use a pieces of plastic packaging foil? Either way I would imagine it would be a suffocation hazard.

Being safe is great but IMHO its pretty impossible to have safe oral sex and enjoy it. I think licking a girl through a bit of plastic would kind of spoil the experience for giver and reciever. Fellatio with a condom on is also a waste of time.

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Ive always used some Gladwrap instead of a dental-dam..

For a while an X of mine and I used to do orgy's and swinging in the rave sceen and this was the common practise.

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...and just to scare the fuck outta some people, here are some stats for herpes simplex virus 2 (HSV-2), the virus responsible for 75% of gential herpes (hehe... holden's hotted up cars are named after a venereal disease)

% represent those who are seropositve for HSV-2 IgG i.e. they have had previous exposure

Sexually active adults 20-40%

Heterosexual females

1 lifetime partner 10%

2-10 lifetime partners 20%

11-50 lifetime partners 35%

>50 lifetime partners 70%

although only ~25% of seropositives have symptoms

WATCH YOUR SHIT - herpes is for life fellas

I would have told the junkie to blow a goat and then I'll give her $20 :devil:

Sometimes I read the personals in the community paper for a larf - I love the ones that go:

"Cuddly F 42, seeking prof guy 35-45

Must be fun loving, like long walks,

blah blah crap, animal lover and GSOH.

I have herpes"

haha, you thought you would slip that in right at the end so I wouldn't notice, didn't ya? :D

btw, I have a long term gf and learning infectious diseases has confirmed and cemented the advantages of monogamy in my mind.

edit: you're right Dom, my stats were for HSV

Edited by oxydiser

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Bet you wish youd taken the blowjob now hey BM? :D

:rolleyes: Makes sense to me.

Since one week i had to walk through a very bad area every day. A lot of punks,fixers and prostitutes. Most of them are very friendly. But also a lot of freaks. Way too much Amphe and too little brain.

None of them wanted to kiss me either. I´m very glad. Oh, but my moneybag has been stolen. I had to run around a lot now for getting new identity papers. But i met so many girls while i was there. I received five cell phone Numbers. I couldn´t believe it first. I have to move to this city now. Oh, i´m digressive.

If you would be consequent, you´d have to demand each girl that you want to kiss to make a herpes test in Advance. This Would be very funny. They surely would be some kinda pissed....

Is herpes infectious all the time? I´ve read that these bad genital warts are only infectious when they´re visible. But when i think about that it comes in my mind that i lucklily never encountered an genital wart. It is possible that i could think, it is some kind of sponateous mutation i´m seeing. What a false sense of security.

Edited by Evil Genius

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I think you guys are confusing herpes HSV with genital warts HPV.

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I dont think anyone should worry about catching hep c through the use of a pipe, cigarette, bottle or a glass. A good friend of mine that i have known for over ten years has hep c and in those years i have shared all of the above with him.

Many counselors and other health professionals have told me that bongs are a the best way(other than iv) to catch hepatitis. I have also heard many different opinions on how the different strains are contracted, and more often than not they are different eg. Only a male can pass hep b during sex. hep c is only contractable through sex. Females are carriers of hep b not infectors. and so on.

I have heard so many stories about hep its not funny. all i know is this, I have shared bongs,joints,cigarettes,glasses and drink bottles with a friend who has hepc for over ten years. My last blood test was nearly five months ago(i have one yearly) and it was clean, so if i was gonna get hep from using the same implements as my friend i dare to say i would have it by now.

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Herpes is only infectious all of the time in individuals with recurrent HSV-2 (which is responsible for most recurrent infections). These unfortunate souls will shed viral particles even when no lesions are present.

In all seriousness though - if you put a condom on your willie, transmission rates head towards zero

The girl in a couple that regularly comes into the pharmacy that I work at has recurrent herpes. I did an infectious disease case presentation on them, they have been going out for ~2 years and she is taking suppressive antivirals which reduce the frequency/severity of recurrences. The guy remains negative after regularly testing even though they have regular unprotected sex but abstain when she is having a recurrence.

So it's not the end of the world.

They are trying for a baby though, which is a whole new can of worms they could potentially open

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so maybe i should wear a condom on my mouth 24/7 so that if another junky wants to kiss me im protected?

:)

Next time there is a rave orgy on maybe i should go - just to expose myself to glad-wrapping vag before i munch.

No sores yet guys - but no kisses from my missus either...

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Getting exposed to the virus in small doeses is probabaly a good thing anyway because you will build up antibodys etc. although there is alos the fact that an outbreak of visible sores may not happen for many years after infection.,

From what my Dr. told me it infects the nerve and travels down its length, hiding until the right conditons appear then it comes back the the surface and breaks out into a sore.. from then on you will likely get recurrent sores in that spot.

If you can catch this first outbreak and treat it with a specific anti viral you will put it into remission and you will be resistant to outbreaks of that strain of the virus forever.

When I was about 14 my first long term girlfriend had horrid herpes on and around the mouth, possibly even downstairs too but Im not sure.:puke: Even though we had regular unprotected sex and shared bongs/drinks etc and while I wouldnt kiss her when she had visible sores she got them every few weeks so I have no doubt that I was exposed many, many times. (plus she was such a selfish bitch about it a number of times she tried to give it to me by kissing me so I wouldnt be put off by her when she had them, how fucked is that) :ana:

I still havent had an outbreak to date over 10 years later though.

They were so foul, one time I saw one on her chin the size of a 10 cent piece and before my eyes it filled up wiht liquid about 0.5cm high and exploded all in about 90 seconds... truely disgusting.. it wasant long after that we broke up.. LOL.. :puke:

Edited by AndyAmine.

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kissing a junky chick or licking out a prostitute...?

With an attitude like that gom... :uzi:

For the record you are heaps less likely to contract an STD via a sex worker than you are with someone you pick up at a pub ( there are statistics, dunno if there's still a Sex Workers Outreach Project site, they might publish them ). Many, if not most professionals these days will have themselves tested regularly, and if they work for a reputable place the house will insist on those regular tests. If you want to go round thinking unprotected sex is fine because you're too nice to catch a virus, you'll probably have to go to a pub to pick up because most professionals won't touch you without a condom on. They're protecting their investment in themselves as well as their clients.

And if you try to score a cheap quickie off some part timer with no cover on, you should be asking yourself who is the bigger idiot.

For the record there are a couple of good long term people here who I know have worked in the sex industry, I've lived with a few good mates who've worked in the industry and it's not the sort of profession you last long in if you're a fuckwit, believe me. Most of the people I know with industry experience show a far greater depth of insight and compassion than the wider public. Prejudice the likes that Gom displayed is not only ignorant, but perpetuates ignorance.

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Let me preface this post with "I do not judge people and I do not like to perpetuate stereotypes but..."

I agree that you are far less likely to pick up an STD from a sex worker that works in a brothel than from a promiscuous person you pick up in a pub.

However I would still think you are a lot less likely to catch something from a pickup in a pub than a street walker who is an IV drug user.

It is true that legal brothels are squeaky clean and look after the health of their employees. I doubt desperate junkies take as many precautions with their health.

Chill out on Gom he was not trying to insult anyone. It was just a light hearted attempt (although it was at the expense of others) at easing BM's anxiety.

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Ouch! LOL,, You can see why this is a mostly male populated forum cant you.. hehehe

Im not sticking up for Gomaos's comment but Darklight, you would have to admit that there is a BIG diference between a Sex-Worker/Escort and a Postitute/Whore/Hooker though, the former working from an clean bussiness establishment with regular testing and condoms etc., the latter mostly working from the street with a pimp, because they cant get a job inhouse because they have STD's/disease's and or drug addictions.

From what BM originaly said, it sounded like a street hooker to me.

Edited by AndyAmine.

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marilon manson was a mormon til one day he kissed a junkie chick...and the rest is history :P

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Who's to say I wasn't talking from experience, and genuinely wanted to know how dangerous it might be? Would that then also be bad and/or "cynical"? or "prejudice"?

Chill out on Gom he was not trying to insult anyone. It was just a light hearted attempt (although it was at the expense of others) at easing BM's anxiety.

very true, since I have had the same anxieties as BM before....

i could elaborate on that but not sure if anyone's interested....

Edited by gomaos

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oops double post sorry

Edited by gomaos

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oh what a tangled web we weave...

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I wonder what's worse:

kissing a junky chick or licking out a prostitute...?

On that subject, speaking of the luckiest man i know 'for now'. I friend of mine goes out every week and has promiscuous sex with whatever he can find and trust me when i say WHATEVER he can find. I donk think he knows the meaning of protection and he growled out an off duty prostitute. But in saying that he knew how they do have regular check-ups and wasnt too worried. It just amazes me how he hasnt contracted anything to date. (he gets tested once or twice a year)

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now that makes me feel better...

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...good...

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