Bretloth

gone to ebay

Pm'd

I'll take it. Will send you a pm.

All gone.

Rosei 1 ~ x2 30cm mid cuts $30 each plus postage Sausage plant ~ x2 30cm mid cuts $30 plus postage and 1x 47cm mid cut $45 plus postage Macrogonus ~ x1 30 mid cut $30 plus postage Bridgesii ~ x1 35cm $30 plus postage

I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread for the origins and histories of all the named clones getting around so we can keep track of them all. Having the histories, reasoning for the names, characteristics that make each special and if people post pics so we can all see what they look like, the differences etc it would be a great help I think, especially for the hip pocket. For instance i've got a pachanoi 'alf' and '2', wouldn't have a clue about their story, if they have special qualities etc except they came from sab and are named. I think we need more reference material so we all know what the hell everyone is on about and can make more informed decisions when buying, selling and breeding. Please post if you know the details about all these different 'named' clones getting around, cheers!

Had the pleasure of visiting Fields cactus farm today and thought i'd take some pics of one the more mysterious cacti. Mr Fields is an amazing man, very friendly and generous. Please do not steal from this good honest man. You'd be surprised how willing to sell cuts at the most reasonable prices in the country (by far), he is. This is probably my favorite cacti, just love this beast. Please don't ask me for a cut, will have some on offer at the end of autumn or next season. Enjoy

With all the variety getting around now I'd like to here everyones opinions about their best or favorite cactus or clone, and for what reasons. Pics would be awesome so we can all see the differences! ;) My favorite is a grafted loph i've had for about three odd years now sourced from funky fungus. Is nice and big now with 13 side pups and has started doing a funky spiral type thing. Grows in quick spurts and suprises often. My favorite tricho is a valida cutting only had it two months but it's already my favorite. Big fat spiny bastard! I love it! I saw the parent, watched it being cut off and know it's real valida, I can't trust anything with KK attached. Supposed to be the most potent tricho which doesn't hurt but it's rareness is more enticing for me. I never really liked the tree trichos until I saw a 50 year morphing valida, and then the photos of it flowering.. All over!!! I think I jizzed a little, honestly. Going to love growing with them.

Loph grafted to pedro $50 plus post. Aus only. SOLD

Pics and info can be found here, PM if interested ~ http://trichoseriousethnobotany.blogspot.com/2012/11/cacti-for-sale.html

Great idea from Faustus, let's catalogue all the plants these laws will effect that are growing in the gardens of our elected officials, public servants, police etc. They won't be so keen on these laws when they get directly effected by them.

Here's a petition to get the ball rolling ~ http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Repeal_the_Crimes_Legislation_Amendment_Serious_Drugs_Identity_Crime_and_Other_Measures_Bill_2012_in_Australia/?fCkHtbb&pv=1

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I saw in a few posts awhile back people where talking about using coconut milk to promote growth and pupping. Just wondering if anybody has any experiences with this?

Besides the mental masterbation I like to look at the facts. Greg starts off supposedly repressenting some Near Death Experience experiment, which only ever included him and never got past the stage of I think this will be a good idea. Then we get the cult, sorry community of infinite colour which greg wants to lead and promotes himself as the repressentitive of, which only includes himself and never got past the I think this will be a good idea stage. Then we get the hunger strike that didn't happen, and again another one now I also really doubt will actually happen. So, you will forgive me if I do not believe a fucking word of it. But I'm sure that won't stop greg promoting himself shamelessly...

How to Start Your Own Cult (and Why You Probably Wouldn't Want To) by George A. Boyd ©1988 First published in The Whole Life Times July 1988 Are you bored with the 9 to 5? Want to do something different? Would you like to work for yourself and gain the approbation of other people? Try starting a Cult. How to Start Your Cult It is first important to create a mystique about yourself. Hire a public relations person (or a friend will do if you're low on cash) to portray you as someone mysterious, exotic, possessed of supernal powers and charisma. It is important to come from a mystic sounding country like India, Tibet, Egypt, or "the Holy Land." In lieu of actually coming from there, you can have studied there and thus gained the mystic powers of the Adepts that live in the remote, forbidden recesses of Nature...atop craggy peaks, in mold-encrusted caves, in ancient forests full of tigers, snakes and horrible insects as large as your hand. Next, have a group of friends circulate stories about you, that you have been away on a long journey, and you have returned...different...and you have become possessed of some mysterious power and presence. They may then praise your abilities to transmit energy (call it Shakti!), to heal, to put other people into profound states of meditation, to awaken faith in God... After this networking has aroused some interest and curiosity, hold your first public meeting, preferably at a large hall. Poster the city and hand out leaflets, and leave flyers at bookstores, health food stores, and local markets. Prior to your first meeting, you'll need to do some research. You'll need to know how to do a guided meditation, and how to induce a light hypnotic trance in a group. Practice in front of a mirror to obtain a powerful gaze...and talk slowly, monotonously, in a deep, sonorous voice. Leave lots of pregnant, lingering, seductive silences in between your words. Change your tone mid-message from near whispering to shouting. Watch how powerful speakers evoke tears, anger, cheers, shame, and exultation—emulate their style of stimulating powerful emotions. Prepare a speech that promises that you and your new religion (or amazing discovery, secret Yoga, true doctrine, esoteric technique) will satisfy people's inner needs: to be loved, to be happy, to be popular, to be wealthy, to be healthy, to be powerful and dynamic, to attain the heights of Spiritual Realization, to be pleasing to God and/or members of the opposite sex. Make claims of exclusivity and superiority, and actively ridicule other groups or faiths, calling them evil, satanic, deluded, leading the ignorant to destruction and woe...or hell...or the perils of transmigration...or worse! Intersperse your speech with adjectives praising your method or discovery, but make no claims for yourself. Those that introduce you should give a jaw-dropping, awe and respect-inspiring testimonial about you. Enter to music that sets the mood you want to create: worship, serenity, triumph, majesty. Have lighting that accents your entrance, soft background lighting that will give the appearance of having a radiant aura around you. Complete the atmosphere by having fresh flowers, incense, with wisps of scented oils in the air. Place a large picture of yourself in a high place behind the podium with the name of your group or church—high enough so that people will have to raise their eyes every time they look at it. Stand above them and talk with powerful, dramatic body language. Simplify everything. Talk as if you were explaining to a 12 year old child. Appear completely confident of your claims, and make eye contact with your audience when you want to emphasize a point. Create a simple doctrine, a simple cosmology with an All-Powerful, All-Protecting Being. Drop hints and inferences (don't make direct assertions or claims) that you are a special representative or Incarnation of this Being here on Earth by way of metaphors and parables. Purposely leave everything vague and never fully define your meanings, so that people leave stirred up inside...asking themselves, "who is he/she?"...what did he/she mean by that?" After your speech, lead them in prayer or a guided meditation, easing them into a light hypnotic trance state. While they are coming out of trance, tell them where they can go to learn more, why it is crucial that they come, why they desperately need what you have come to bring. Have people hand out flyers to the audience as they leave to reinforce where and when your ongoing meetings will be held. Have handsome well-dressed men and attractive women act as door monitors and ushers, and have "counselors" available to assure the troubled and confused members of the audience that they ..."have come to the right place" and "the answer is here." Meetings should further affirm your basic message. There should be more testimonials, more praise of you and your Way, with simple participatory rituals (a potluck dinner, holding hands in prayer, having each person tell about themselves in a small group with the rest of the group applauding after they speak) to create a sense of belonging. The retreat or initiation comes next. After attending a required number of introductory meetings, the seeker is "let into the inner circle" and "permitted to partake of the Mysteries." This can be formalized by a simple baptism or flower-offering ceremony, plus learning a special, secret prayer or mantramic formula, or some other esoteric method. Coupling this method with whispering, touching the forehead or anointing the head with chrism oil, together with soft evocative background music and fragrant scents will further imprint the experience into the subconscious mind. Shaping of the new "initiate" is done by attacking and replacing belief systems with cult doctrine, and by finding fault with his/her behavior. Good, cult-approved behavior is praised; non-approved behavior is condemned. Eventually, cult doctrine comes to replace much of the initiate's own beliefs, thinking about cult philosophy and proscribed ethics comes to occupy his/her thoughts, and being involved in cult commitments and events occupies much of the spare time away from work and home. Further commitment and responsibilities within the cult make leaving and repudiating the doctrine even more difficult. Having offices or titles locks the followers into roles, and turns them into permanent representatives of the message you proclaim. When the "movement" is established, you will only have to give talks to them periodically to inspire their faith and commitment. Your trusted lieutenants will take over much of the proselytization activity and fund-raising efforts, so that with a little help from a lawyer and an accountant you can guarantee yourself a well-to-do lifestyle with little effort... The Human Cost of Cultism Now that we have journeyed together on this imaginary voyage of you starting your own cult and ensuring your fame and fortune, let us pause for a moment and consider the human cost of cultism, and why this apparently easy and seductive path to power, fame and wealth is not so prudent a path, after all. A little spare-time observation of television evangelism, local churches and places of worship, or charismatic cults will reveal many of these methods in action, much to the detriment of those who are swept up in its illusions and emotional maelstrom. Physically, people neglect their diet and sleep, and exhaust themselves in pursuit of cult-prescribed activities, inviting disease and ill health. Too ardent pursuit of meditation can further lead to sensory hallucinations and delusional perception. Emotionally, people become obsessed with ideas implanted by cult doctrine. Their self- esteem becomes distorted, tending either toward grandiosity or self-depreciation. They become tortured by feelings of guilt, failure, fear, rage, shame, and bitter regret. Their emotional serenity is shattered. Mentally, people little by little lose the ability to think for themselves: to critically evaluate, to make independent judgements, to make decisions, to separate reality from fantasy. Their will becomes weakened, and they no longer resist the seductive and hypnotic suggestions of cult doctrine...their lives come under the control of others. Personally, their beliefs and behaviors increasingly become dictated from without. They cease to direct their own lives. Instead, group mandate becomes personal mandate, group goals become personal goals. Attribution to self and to one's own efforts are supplanted by attribution to metaphysical, spiritual, or archetypal sources. Ultimately the leader or divinity comes to occupy the central place in the person's life, and all the issues of life are seen to come from the leader. Spiritually, people in cults develop devotion or fanaticism, detachment or feverish over-involvement, and taste the extremes of ecstasy and despair. There is rarely sober reflection, inner silence, and the balance of intentionality and wisdom that marks maturity. Indeed, cultic groups feed on extremism, infantilizing their followers and training them in immaturity and dependence. These effects combine to make involvement in cults at best a waste of a person's precious time and at worst the waste of a person's life. Do you still want to start a cult? How to Steer Clear of Cults OK, you really are not motivated by greed, lust for power, and an exaggerated sense of personal worth and preoccupation with your...Mission from God. You are genuinely altruistic, honest, seeking the truth, motivated by a desire only to serve and to love. Where do you find a group to learn with safely, or conversely, how do you safely start your own group without causing damage to other people's lives? There are several principles that you can look for. Though these are not always indicative of good fruit within the container, they are leading indicators of, at least, sincere intentions: 1) FREE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION. The information in the group is presented without claims of its exclusivity or superiority. It does not deter members from seeking other sources of information; indeed, it often encourages its members to go to those more expert and qualified to teach certain skills or methods. It encourages a broad understanding of religion and philosophy, and does not stress emotionalized, narrow interpretations. 2) RECOGNITION OF THE HUMANITY OF THE LEADERS. Although respect for the lofty spiritual attainments of the genuine adepts and preceptors of humanity is appropriate, to deify the leader of a group and to deny his/her humanity is to make a crucial error. These individuals do not cease to have a personality and have the potential to fall from grace. They may have learned over many years of discipline how to control their tendencies of mind, and how to readily transcend the personality, but this does not mean that latent or unconscious tendencies have ceased to operate. Given the right circumstances, they too can be seen to be overcome by passions, to blunder and yes...to sin. 3) HUMILITY. Genuine humility is a recognition of how much a person has yet to learn. It is a remembrance of and gratitude to those who have given of their strength, wisdom and guidance. No man "knows it all" and grandiose notions should quickly vanish upon the dawning of "the Light of Infinitude," or the "Vision of the Beloved of Hearts." 4) TRUTHFULNESS. To the senses, truth is the verifiably real. To the emotions, truth is confession of real feelings and motives. To the mind truth is accuracy and consistency. To the personality, truth is integrity: promises and actions coincide. To the spirit, Truth is the Ineffable Source from which it comes. Truth is an intuitive conviction, an inner knowing of the law of the heart. It cannot be codified by philosophy, dictated by religion or authority, or enforced upon the human spirit. When truth is communicated, it speaks directly to the heart, and it is filled with love. It does not impose its values, threaten or cajole, browbeat or persuade—but the heart knows that it is true. If truth is spoken in the group, by the leader or anyone else, the heart will know it. If authority is acceded to Scripture, to the Master or Teacher, to God or gods above the human heart: question, and question yet again. 5) RESPECT FOR THE DIGNITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL. If the group prescribes one panacea for all human needs, it denies the malleability of situation and the infinite variety of our human condition. The medicine that works for one person does not work for another; the method that transports one soul to ineffable realms of bliss has no effect for another. Either the method produces the result, or it doesn't—trying to obscure this with rationalizations, procrastination and explanation is diversion. The method must respect the nature of the person's needs and situation, and most of all it must respect a person's free choice and independent judgement. It must allow him/her the right to learn from the consequences if need be, or not to learn...and to choose his/her own path. 6) GENUINE LOVE AND DEVOTION. Love and devotion that is engineered through effusive testimonials and the creation of a legend about the leader does not last. Where there is spontaneous love and devotion springing from the heart, where people do not have to exhorted to love or to worship, you may look for a genuine tradition. When the Beloved is seen, the heart does not have to be told who or where the Beloved is, it knows...and it loves. 7) PRACTICE OF SPIRITUAL VALUES AND SERVICE TO HUMANITY. It is one thing to have a noble philosophy, another to live it. Look for deviation between the teacher's prescription and what is his/her own behavior. Deeper than beliefs and philosophy is character; how a person actually lives, speaks more eloquently than volumes of discourse.

Got the pictured plant from Fields, tentitively id'ed as Tacaquirensis, Robert thinks from Ritter. He's not sure on the id or the source, he said he would have to check his records to be sure, so please don't hassle me over it because i'm not that fussed. I don't know anymore than what I'm saying. If it helps, great. If not, oh well.

Most definatly, I walk around the joint half in a daze drooling There's another clump in the main garden inbetween the roseii 2 and lamproclorus clumps on the little windy dirt track ;)

Fields has two clumps out there PD, another one out by the back dam ;) Wouldn't have a clue what the freaky thing is, just passing on what I was told when I scored my cut. I can see pach, peru and bridgey traits in it. Depending on who you ask all three are variants of the same thing anyway so not much point going down that road in my book. It's an awesome freaky plant, and now I've got a cut. All I'm concerned with

No worries mate, give us a buzz when you know. Got another Valida flower coming through in the next week or two ;)

According to Mr Fields, it's Bridgesii lageniformis.

Ok, just got back from Fields. Both Valida out there are different clones from the same seed batch, from Ritter, through his sister who was the original Mr Fields pen pal. There, hopefully that keeps everyone happy.

Hi, I am the leader. You may bow and curtsy. Here at the community of infinite bullshit which doesn't actually exist, drugs are made ok with religeon! Yay. You may follow any spiritual path here at the community of infinite bullshit, as long as they fall under the control of my spiritual guidelines which are themselves fundementalist dogma that must be adhered too without exception, which will be also be enforced with guilt, slander and sooky sooky la la. All letters written by members (especially sooky self important rants to the government) must be talked about in internet forums to try and gain credebility and pats on the back, because that's why we do it here at the community of infinite bullshit, most just write their letters and don't seek approval for it, they do it for it's own reason, but not us, oh no, we need attention for it here! So, if you too are a know it all self absorbed holier than thou asshole then look elsewhere, the leaders position is taken, we are looking for mindless sheep here, ones impressed by big words and nonsensical new age drivel and those who are most vulnerable and desperate, if this is you, then welcome to the community of infinite bullshit!. Yours sincerely, The Leader. Ps; This is satire, if it offends you then good. Only sheep have need of shepherds, lead yourself.

It's a controversial subject, which people hold strong opinions about. A little criticism never hurt anyone, I think it's good to see yourself through others eyes. My opinions are based upon my experience, which no one else shares, so of course there will be opposing views to it coming from different perspectives. Part of life. Doesn't change a thing for me, but duly noted. I do not consider someone who has made only two posts here, one promoting themselves, and the other launching their cult and active member of this forum, or the greater entheogenic community. I see that as someone coming in, placing themselves above us all, and looking to grab a splinter group to lead and control. So I do not see my actions as divisive, more protective. I dont want to see anyone get fucked over from this guy. Incog, i've only had one dealing with you before and it wasnm't pleasant, you fucked me around for weeks on a sale you botched, then acted the fool asking me for another chance, your true colours have been apparent to me since, you're a wanker. And as far as ladders of cool go, I didn't care about that crap in high school, sure as shit not going to now. I do what I think is right, as no doubt all you have done also. One thing I think we all can agree on is we don't have to all agree on everything. Have a great new year everyone~*