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Halcyon Daze

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  1. Actually that's meant to be "Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission" etc. And Rogan's cherry-picked a single line from a non-covid paper about chickens from 2015. Which is totally fine, he has the right to express his take/ opinion to another anti-vaxxer,  but it's hardly case closed or anything. 

     

    So here's my take on the paper...

     

    For a start, that paper wasn't trying to establish whether or not variants occur in the vaccinated (it's a no-brainer, afterall) but it aims to start exploring the realm of what might be possible. Indeed, it says "There is (already) a theoretical expectation that this happens" ,   and  "The future challenge is to identify whether there are other types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate these evolutionary risks". It's a shame Rogan didn't highlight these stipulations, but instead spin the paper as proof of his opinion, (or the opinion of whoever said it to him to begin with), because it doesn't seem like he read the paper himself. Just out of curiosity, did you, because playing 'chinese wispers' is not exactly a great source of scientific data.

     

    There's no dispute over variants appearing in people, whether they are vaccinated or not. But there *would* still  be a lower rate of variants coming out of vaccinated people, based on the lower rate of infection to begin with, which seems to be the general consensus anyway (from what I've picked up).

     

    Covid will probably end up being like the flu IMO, regardless of vaccinations. It's just a matter of how many people want to be sacrificed unnecessarily for the same eventual outcome as it develops over the years or decades. The paper itself says that natural selection helps to stop potent variants from spreading, but it fails to take environmental factors into account. Natural selection worked well in a diverse, partitioned world, but we are a monoculture now, with very different dynamics and severe consequences of just letting a pathogen run rampant.  

     

    Is that how we would really want to solve this issue? To randomly kill off millions of people as our way of 'living' with the virus. Remember, it's no longer just the elderly at risk, and Delta didn't emerge from the vaccinated, but the **unvaccinated**. 

     

    There's a big debate over reducing global over-population, but there's better ways of doing it than dying a wretched painful disease-ridden death. Besides, if someone is such a champion for reducing over-population then they should put their money where their mouth is and get a vasectomy before having any kids, but I'm sure these proponents are happy for someone else's family to die of covid, who cares if it doesn't happen to them etc..   ...and then it DOES happen to them anyway SMH.

     

    It seems to me like anti-vaxxers are often arriving at their final solution of just letting a certain percentage of people die, and hope everything goes back to normal.  But that won't happen, that's merely an untested hypothetical. Variants will still appear, new cohorts will die, people and the economy will suffer severely. And half-assed vaccination campaigns won't do much either, just look at Israel, they went in hard and fast, with incredible results, and threw it all away by opening up too early.

     

    The best way to reduce variants (AND keep people and the economy safe) still appears to be strong vaccination programs. But that doesn't seem possible now that the fear/misinformation genie is out of the bottle.

     

    Our only hope now IMO is to stay one step ahead of the misinformed, and take harder measures to prevent the mindless sheep from killing many millions of happy families, as well as their own. But that's highly unlikely now that many of our most powerful leaders like Scomo and Gladys, Trump-ism, are raising the white flag and kneeling for the slaughter.

     

    Prepare for the covid-appocalypse, people! When the shyt hits the fan, you'll be waiting a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong  time for a jab in a queue full of sick, coughing, zombies. Just look at pretty every other country who threw in the towel too early, that's only just around the corner. Don't be afraid, but also don't be a total fool during a serious pandemic. For the love of all that's good, use your f** brain. Time is close now.

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  2. They are definitely intense, but I'm sure the homegrown ones would pack a lot more punch that the mass produced ones. Nice flavour though, and  I'm sure the seeds would sprout readily.


  3. Awesome post. wish I had something intelligent to say but it's 2am.  I understand your sentiment and frustrations completely. Obviously my view is that the problem lies with disinformation so If everyone could just turn off their TVs and stop buying into this whole political shyt-show that would be awesome. Which isn't gonna happen right, so yeah, we need our governments to toughen up on mis-information, because self-regulation in the media and social media is weak as piss like always... anyway that's just my humbe 2 cents for now. 


  4. Every coles I've been to sells them all the time. Not sure if they're the real deal or not though. They're not that hot. I munch them down with a couple of dimsims and yeah, they're OK but it's not like a kick in the balls or anything. Maybe just all the water and ferts they pump into them.

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  5. Use a soil-wetter when dunking too. Eg a couple drops of detergent or a couple teaspoons of molasses. It helps the water stick to the larvae and drown them. Otherwise they can survive in little air pockets through out the mix.

    Also I've read that crab-shell-meal works wel, as the bacteria that thrive on the ?Chitin? will eat the exoskeletons of the larvae. 

     

    Sticky yellow traps can be made with cut-up plastic pots and vasoline. 

     

    Let us know how it all goes :)

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  6. I doubt anything much will come of this but at least it's a step in the right direction. 

     

    Sky News Australia to face Senate inquiry after week-long YouTube suspension

     

    Sky News Australia will face a Senate inquiry next week after the broadcaster was suspended for seven days for posting numerous videos which violated YouTube’s Covid medical misinformation policies.

    The hearing comes as former prime minister Kevin Rudd calls on the Australian media regulator to take a tougher line on the broadcasting of contentious Sky News material on subscription TV and free-to-air television in regional areas.

     

     

    https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/06/sky-news-australia-to-face-senate-inquiry-after-week-long-youtube-suspension

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  7. Sorry to hear you're struggling bro, My one and only local ethno-bro just left town recently and that's been a major bummer. I love going to meets though, even if it's a bit of a drive to get to them. I do have a few local gardening friends that make life a lot more enjoyable.

     

    As for covid, I genuinely felt a lot better once I was fully vaccinated, like I was part of the solution rather than the problem etc. so I would encourage anyone to get vaccinated. 

     

    It's funny how previously people believed in vaccinations enough to literally wipe some things off the face of the planet, but now with all this social media power in the hands of the reclessly mis-informed, we're seeing (for the first time) vaccination rates dropping so low in some areas that a virus is wreaking havoc.

     

    My only humble but genuine advice is to steer clear of the anti-vax hysteria going around and just stick with the science. Our medical science is the best it's ever been in the history of humanity and there is no grand conspiracy to inject us all with microchips or take away our liberties, or whatever the latest BS is.

     

    Murdoch's business model is literally to divide and conquer. He's not interested in journalism, he's a power-broker and that's it. So yeah I agree we need to unite and look out for eachother. My personal approach has been to take a stand against misinformation and advocate for the science as much as possible, and I do get a sense of satisfaction in seeing my friends and family staying safe and all of us getting safely through all this.

     

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  8. 4 hours ago, Change said:

    Morning Gentlemen :P:wink:

     

    What if i told you you can turn off your tv - What If I Told You | Meme  Generator

     

     

    Dude, some of us have family members who have been put at significant risk with this massive misinformation campaign. So I'm trying not to laugh at your meme right now.  But yeah, it's deadly serious and killed hundreds of thousands in the US alone. Me turning off my TV won't do much to help stop this beast. Technically I don't even own a 'TV' but the scraps of Sky and Fox that I do come across are truly shocking in terms of what it's doing to enable this killer virus.

     

    Remember Hitler rose to ultimate power through a powerful and carefully crafted propaganda campaign, and went on to kill millions. I'm sure many people DID just switch off the TV /radio and look how that turned out :(

     

    Anyway.  I get that it was a bit of a joke but, yeah I wish people actually 'could' turn off all that BS. I think it's the social media that really allows the BS to spread like wild fire though, but with players like the Murdoch media pouring fuel on the fire it's a truly deadly combo.

     

    Anyway I look forward to checking out those other awesome papers when I get a chance. Cheers :)

     

     

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  9. Here's a spicy one, obviously it's political opinion but I certainly think they're right on the money with all the misinformation being disseminated by certain groups with vested interests. As usual apply your own personal discernment... 

     

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