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Anyone considering discontinuing use of ssris or benzos would be well advised, imo, to consult the work of Dr David Healy....an outspoken critic of the influence of pharmaceutical companies on academic psychiatry...including 'disease mongering' here is his protocol for withdrawing from ssris: http://www.benzo.org.uk/healy.htm http://www.benzo.org.uk/ is well worth a look too ^ No idea who's behind this site, but has more info on 'tapering off': http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/taper.htm ditto: http://www.depression-guide.com/antidepres...-withdrawal.htm and an Australian one: http://www.australianprescriber.com/magazine/24/1/13/5/ Healys writings on big pharma and the 'antidepressant era' (& eponymous book) are well worth a read for anyone taking, considering taking or generally interested in how knowledge has been, and is, constructed about anti-dep medications, especially ssris. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Healy_(psychiatrist) http://www.pharmapolitics.com/feb2healy.html http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/182/5/388

Can somebody please pm me Dan Schreibers contact details, Tom left something at my place...a necklace that Dan leant him at ega, and i would like to return it to him. thanks

Beautiful, sweet, loving Tom...only yesterday we swam , we laughed together. so much to live for. We love you so much, we will miss you so much. Penny, Sophi and Maya

lol...I think this may actually be my date of conception...my real bday is september 26th

astrology flawed?? how am I going to live my life without Jonathan Cainer telling me what to do?? I might have to ask John Edwards! nah...save your time and $ - can't go past a magic-eight ball for accuracy

Not to try and burst any bubbles, but due the "procession of the equinoxes" we are all generally the sign that precedes the one we think we are. I was born at the beginning of October, which according to the "popular" astrology of the papers makes me a Libra, but true astrology makes me a Virgo, the sign before Libra, as the "sign" you are is determined by which constellation the sun is in on your birthday, and for me that is Virgo, not Libra. I was a Libra 2000+ years ago, but not any longer, and that is because "popular" astrology hasn't updated along with the procession of the equinoxes. So use a good astronomy program to see what sign you actually are. i too was born near the libra-virgo cusp, and also a Virgo...now ;) imo popular astrology, rooted in outmoded Ptolemaic model which places the earth at the centre of the known universe, is also flawed in not taking into account the influence of other celestial phenomena/objects that may have an influence on earthly affairs, including weather systems - such as solar storms/flares, passing comets, large asteroids/near earth objects.

spicy insectoids also come to mind...and what someone has referred to as the 'Aya dial tone': http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/viewtopi...light=dial+tone Then there's the 'decarboxylating' resonant tone of the brothers' Mckenna ;) It would seem insect calls work on many levels

Yeah, the lisping was an interesting effect. It reminded me of when ppl get their ears cleaned...I've never had the procedure done, but the removal of wax seems to enhance aural acuity. Many people I've known report that 's' sounds become much crisper/clearer, like the treble has been turned up, and sometimes these sounds (in speach) can seem 'sharp' and unpleasant. I assume 's' sounds are higher frequency? When I first arrived at ega the cicadas almost hurt to hear, and at times it felt like my ear drum (the membrane bit) was being seriously rattled, thoroughly vibrated, buzzed. It was painful almost at some points. Maybe the vibrations have a similar effect to cleaning? Perhaps wax/detritus was dislodged or moved around, cleansing the tympanic membrane? Or was there something more subtle, less physically manifest, about the frequency of the cicada calls that sensitised our ears? I reckon the sheer numbers of cicadas, and hence volume, in tandem with specific frequency of buzzing. Maybe in much the same way as certain frequencies shatter glass...resonance? I dunno the proper terminology....but there was a definate sync/correspondance between the cicada calls and 'range'(?) of human tympanic membrane. Actually, the organ cicadas use to produce their calls may be worth investigating in this regard...also the tympanic organs used for hearing could bear some structural resemblance to the human ear? I'm just hypothesising here... wiki: Cicada song Male cicadas have loud noisemakers called "timbals" on the sides of the abdominal base. Their "singing" is not the stridulation (where two structures are rubbed against one another) of many other familiar sound-producing insects like crickets: the timbals are regions of the exoskeleton that are modified to form a complex membrane with thin, membranous portions and thickened "ribs". Contracting the internal timbal muscles yields a pulse of sound as the timbals buckle inwards. As these muscles relax, the timbals return to their original position. The interior of the male abdomen is substantially hollow to amplify the resonance of the sound. A cicada rapidly vibrates these membranes, and enlarged chambers derived from the tracheae make its body serve as a resonance chamber, greatly amplifying the sound. They modulate their noise by wiggling their abdomens toward and away from the tree that they are on. Additionally, each species has its own distinctive song.[1] Although only males produce the cicadas' distinctive sound, both sexes have tympana, which are membranous structures used to detect sounds and thus the cicadas' equivalent of ears. Adult cicadas have a sideways-ridged plate where the mouth is in normal insects. Some cicadas produce sounds louder than 106 dB (SPL) "at close range", among the loudest of all insect-produced sounds.[4] Conversely, some small species have songs so high in pitch that the noise is inaudible to humans[citation needed]. Species have different mating songs to ensure they attract the appropriate mate. The song intensity of the louder cicadas acts as an effective bird repellent.[citation needed] Males of many species tend to gather which creates a greater sound intensity and protects against avian predators.[citation needed] It can be difficult to determine which direction(s) cicada song is coming from, because the low pitch carries well and because it may, in fact, be coming from many directions at once, as cicadas in various trees all make noise at once. In addition to the mating song, many species also have a distinct distress call, usually a somewhat broken and erratic sound emitted when an individual is seized. A number of species also have a courtship song, which is often a quieter call and is produced after a female has been drawn by the calling song. The song of the cicada is a favorite sound effect used by filmmakers and animators as a means of representing silence, pathos, and the great outdoors.[cita google threw this up: http://www.springerlink.com/content/k41x8001670t62mt/ Directional hearing of a cicada: biophysical aspects Journal Journal of Comparative Physiology A: Neuroethology, Sensory, Neural, and Behavioral Physiology Accepted: 18 January 1993 Abstract The directional hearing of male and female cicadas of the species Tympanistalna gastrica was investigated by means of laser vibrometry. The results show that the tympanic organs act as pressure difference receivers. This mechanism can produce left-right differences of more than 10 dB. The main acoustic inputs to the inner surfaces of the ears are the tympana, in males supplemented by the timbals, and by the third spiracles in females. In addition the hollow abdomen of males seems to play a minor role. Tympanic membrane input is the source of left-right differences in the tympanic vibration velocity at frequencies below 9 kHz in males and below 15–18 kHz in females. The input via the (contralateral) timbal in males is responsible for a null in vibration velocity appearing between 12 and 14 kHz when the sound is coming from the contralateral direction. The highest energy components of the calling song are found in this frequency range. The mechanical sensitivity of the ears depends upon the sex. At low frequencies males are about 10 dB more sensitive than females.

I would really like a good handful of sticks...maybe four or five please Just lemme know details and I can send $ asap. many thanks Heb x

a glass and a half of cicada mist sheesh look out! lol, yeah, maybe I should stick to shandies. If there's not too many people, we can perhaps retire to my place later in the evening (or early in the morning)...have to wait and see where the night takes me though ;)

It sure is, and one of the best books ever written IMO...I don't know how to post images here anymore....but here's the cover: http://1stedition.net/Images/lorax/loraxfrontcover.jpg It was always one of my favourite books as a child, and I still have the same copy (a first edition!!!!) which i read to my daughter now...isn't Dr Seuss just sooo much fun to read?....and don't get me started on Fox in Socks (don't think there's any mention of cicadas, but those tweedle beetles are pretty spesh).

I got babysitting...woohoo!!!! hmmm. I really gotsta see that if i can ... lol, it may not be pretty bacc. I'm a cadburys drinker afterall (glass and a half)...aahahahahah

It all started way back... such a long, long time back... Way back in the days when the grass was still green and the pond was still wet and the clouds were still clean, and the song of the Swomee-Swans rang out in space... one morning, I came to this glorious place. And I first saw the trees! The Truffula Trees! The bright-colored tufts of the Truffula Trees! Mile after mile in the fresh morning breeze. And, under the trees, I saw Brown Bar-ba-loots frisking about in their Bar-bo-loot suits as they played in the shade and ate Truffula Fruits." From the rippulous pond came the comfortable sound of the Humming-Fish humming while splashing around." But those trees! Those trees! Those Truffula Trees! All my life I'd been searching for trees such as these." The touch of their tufts was much softer than silk. And they had the sweet smell of fresh butterfly milk." I felt a great leaping of joy in my heart. I knew just what I'd do! I unloaded my cart." In no time at all, I had built a small shop. Then I chopped down a Truffula Tree with one chop." And with great skillful skill and with great speedy speed. I took the soft tuft. And I knitted a Thneed!" …the instant I'd finished, I heard a ga-Zump! I looked. I saw something pop out of the stump …of the tree I'd chopped down. It was sort of a man. Describe him?...That's hard. I don't know if I can." He was shortish. And oldish. And brownish. And mossy. And he spoke with a voice that was sharpish and bossy." L:"Mister!" O: "…he said with a sawdusty sneeze," L: "I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees." L: "I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues. And I'm asking you, sir, at the top of my lungs"-- O: He was very upset as he shouted and puffed-- L: "Whats that THING you've made out of my Truffula tuft?" O:"Look, Lorax," I said. "There's no cause for alarm. I chooped just one tree. I am doing no harm. O: "I'm being quit useful. This thing is a Thneed. A Thneed's a Fine-Something-That-All-People-Need!" O: "It's a shirt. It's a sock. It's a glove. It's a hat. But it has other uses. Yes, far beyond that." O: "You can use it for carpets. For pillows! For sheets! Or curtains! Or covers for bicycle seats!" Storyteller: The Lorax said, L:"Sir! You are crazy with greed. There is no one on earth who would buy that fool Thneed!" O: "But the very next minute I proved he was wrong. For, just at that minute, a chap came along," O: "and he thought that the Thneed I had knitted was great. He happily bought it for three ninety-eight. O:I laughed at the Lorax, "You poor stupid guy! You never can tell what some people will buy." L:"I repeat, I speak for the trees!" O:"I'm busy," I told him. "Shut up, if you please." O: I rushed 'cross the room, and in no time at all, built a radio-phone. I put in a quick call. O: "I called all my brothers and uncles and aunts and I said, "Listen here! Here's a wonderful chance O: "For the whole Once-ler Family to get mighty rich! Get over here fast! Take the road to North Nitch. Turn left at Weehawken. Sharp right at South Stitch." O: "And, in no time at all, in the factory I built, the whole Once-ler Family was workign full tilt." O: "We were all knitting Thneeds just as busy as bees, to the sound of the chopping of Truffula Trees." O: "Then... Oh! Baby! Oh! How my business did grow! Now, chopping one tree at a time was too slow." O: "So I quickly invented my Super-axe-hacker which whacked off four Truffula Trees at one smacker." O: "We were making Thneeds four times as fast as before! And that Lorax?... He didn't show up any more." more here: http://www.uuintergenerational.org/lorax.htm

Babysitting permitting, I'll be there with bells on :D I'm intrigued by this pub...always up for a few synchronicites, fine company (and I gotta get drunk at least once this year).

Thanks all...i tried everything and nuthin' worked...ended up taking a few painkillers and an ice pack to bed (not that I got much sleep with my hands on fire) but I sure learnt my lesson! Manny thanks all the same

Sure Andy...pm your addy and it's yours

they had a long fat proboscis coming out of their head. I'm guessing they use this to suck sap out of trees which they pump through themselves and piss out on to conference goers. Exactly...the sucking or piercing proboscis is one of the defining features of the order cicadas belong to (along with aphids, scale, leaf hopper) - the Hemiptera...bugs

This is interesting*, as my partner experienced this just last week (for the first time, despite having worked with chilli's for years) yes, I have also worked with chilli for donkeys and never once had a reaction like this. it might be a particular frankenfood strain on the market right now (our experience was in Sydney) with some intense level of capsaicin. could very well be Tell me, did your mash include bird's eye or some other small thai fruits perhance? I had four varieties...a big pile of sweet banana chili, then long mild ones, a pile of cayenne and then a smaller pile of habanero. In between mincing these finely with a big chefs knife, i also grated and minced a whole heap of ginger, gartic, lemon peel and lemongrass. I'm not sure if these other ingredients maybe contributed in some way. the burn didnt start till i went to wash up...as soon as I got hot water on my hands it seemed to activate the chilli...my hands are cold to touch, but pink and very very sore. 30 hours did you say? oh lord

have been doing some xmas cooking today, making some chilli sauce...minced over a kilo of diff varieties, finishing with habanero...about 1/2 hour later my hands are on fire, and it only seems to be getting worse. I've tried milk, oils, hand creams, vaseline, acidified water, ice, cold water...the last two giving temporary relief only... i should have worn gloves, and thankfully i didn't scratch myself...but jaysus, two hours later and it hurts like hell. any suggestions? If not, how long will this last?

I've still got the copy you made me...wanna copy?

feelin' bit culturally-retarded not being able to ID Rollins...and I thought I was so with it In my life Why do I smile At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye ? One of my favourite songs... (not sure what that says tho lol) I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour But heaven knows I'm miserable now I was looking for a job, and then I found a job And heaven knows I'm miserable now In my life Why do I give valuable time To people who don't care if I live or die ? Two lovers entwined pass me by And heaven knows I'm miserable now I was looking for a job, and then I found a job And heaven knows I'm miserable now In my life Oh, why do I give valuable time To people who don't care if I live or die ? What she asked of me at the end of the day Caligula would have blushed "You've been in the house too long" she said And I (naturally) fled In my life Why do I smile At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye ? I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour But heaven knows I'm miserable now "You've been in the house too long" she said And I (naturally) fled In my life Why do I give valuable time To people who don't care if I live or die ?

WOW, excellent stuff Would you consider sharing this with a wider audience? 'User's News' would print this for sure, and they'd pay you something. Alot of people would relate to your words, and be touched by them. It's an excellent mag, easy to get a hold of a copy...or I'm happy to send a couple out http://www.nuaa.org.au/nuaa/News/index.html

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/a...r_1978_59152128

I reckon it's the yellow potplant mushroom...Leucocoprinus birnbaumii, aka Lepiota lutea, they've turned up in a few of my plants inside and out

we'll miss you and the beautiful C too, D (be at the next meet or else...grrrr )