Alchemist

Yes intitally I tried it as a tea but as the dosae went up I couldn t drink it any longer. So I extracted it with various solvents and ingested the residue left after evaroration. After that failure i resorted to varourising the residue. The plant was from Gomaos which I think originally came from Torsten.

Completely negative C.Z. experience. Worked my way up to 25g extractions, acetone ,ethanol,water in separate experiments. Vapourised theplant and extracts. Probably works well on some, not at all on others.

Yes please do ,very interested. Getting back to the original topic of strong visualization, thank you once again for your posts. It seems that I really have an underdeveloped visual imagination and need to work hard. Its been good to know that some of you are capable of it to a reasonable degree. I shall try the afterimage intensification of a single spot initially and see how go for a few months. If anything it should help me with Astral projection using Ophiel's 'little system'

Yes, and the other across the road. Giligan what side of river are you ?

Well , I guess I can't see anything spiritual in the scientific research papers that go through my desk , but that's probably just me. Belief in a creator/inteligent force I can easily make myself see, but anything else I can't. I just have to believe in the person who wrote the books and try for myself.

I have seen Randi's videos and very much like the chap. He has a great personality. I am I scientist, and science has improved our physical quality of life dramatically. but having initially liberated us from the chains of religion is now doing its best to destroy all spirituality. Of those who claim to have special abilities, some are schizophrenic, others have great imaginations and some are cheats. I believe that proving something to one's self is all that is required any more is just too difficult.

Whitewind, I cant see a thing with my minds eye. For example this morning I tried to picture a blackboard on which I wrote numbers with chalk , starting with 99. I then wiped the number and wrote the next descending number until I reached 1. I could see nothing but imagined the action, just as you would do in a dark room. Or as you would do writing on the board with the eyes closed. As I wrote, I could see no images. It was all done by imagining the movement involved. If I had to imagine something where no movement is involved then I am stumped. For example to imagine a box I can imagine the straight lines and how I could feel aroud the box. I can't see it. If I had to imagine a rose , I would have in my mind a feeling of a blob because I cant imagine all the angles involved nor how it would feel with my big clumsy hands. IndianDreaming: Yes the 'Secret' was a money making scam, but countless books have been made regarding the fundamental method. She just marketed it well. The books range from Occult books, The masterkey System , The Secret of Success , The power of the subconscious mind. The list is endless. Many intermingle Christianity with the law, (probably to disassociate it with its occult origins), but it all boils down to the law that by imagining what is wanted very strongly, and not aiming too high initially, the astral plane (which is all thought) begins to act on the physical. I don't necessarily believe it, but would love to try it.

Thanks for the posts people, keep them coming as I am digesting it all. To clarify, it is apparently possible to develop the visualization skill to such an extent that one can imagine anything and see it with eyes open. As a side exercise one must also practice removing the image deliberately to avoid going mad. I came across this concept while reading an occult book twenty years ago (not dark force material, but how to influence things of this world). It stated that before any magic work can ever work, the person must develop such a strong skill. Without it none of the spells, wishes and dreams come true. I came across a similar concept again reading Ophiel's excellent books on creative visualization and again in a more random way while reading all sorts of material from obtaining prophecies to astral projection on the etheric plane. I once asked a person who was practicing reki and she claimed she could immediately picture an object and see it on the table. She seemed puzzled that I could not do that and though that I was the one telling fibs. Books say anyone can achieve this, it seems to need a herculean effort on my part. After researching for years I believe that such a skill is not just a novelty but can be used to enhace ones life in a dramatic way. That's why I'd like to know if anyone here has such a skill, even a weaker one.

G'day folks, due to some health problems, I've decided to try wheatgrass juice for a year. I already have a centrifugal juicer, but it is next to useless for juicing grass. To my horror, a hand powered wheatgrass juicer sold at a juice shop costs 120 dollars. I cant afford to spend this much so I'm wondering if anyone out there has a second hand one for a reasonable price, or knows where I can get one. Email: [email protected] Cheers :confused:

I've taken 3-5g of dry calea (good quality, green with nice smell) for a week now, just before going to bed and nothing at all changed with my dreams.Before this I have tried teas, extracts, vaporisation and god knows what else to no avail. So a few days ago I decided to go for a big dose. I extracted 25g of the stuff with methanol in a soxhlet. After evaporating the methanol overnight and then for a 10 mins at 70C in an oven, I got 8 g of resin. The left over leaves weighed 17g was brown and no longer bitter. The 8g shocked me as it expected some 3g if the same plant was used as in the dream study journal article found on the web (hexane+methanol extracts together) I took the green blob last night and felt no difference in the hour going to bed and bugger all dreams. The only difference was waking up after 3 hours to do a number 2 all thanks to its laxative properties. I am very disappointed indeed. I have Mugwort to try next,I hope it does something....

Yeah, perhaps I am. Never know what pandoras box I could open up for myself... Quick update on the Mugwort, its doing sweet FA as well. 3 heaped tablespoons left in a cup of hot water for 30 mins. Tea is brownish in colour, tastes quite nice, and leaves a very mild burning feeling in the mouth and throat. Thats about all it does. I must be immune to these mild herbs??

I made a tea from the 17g (6 heaped table spoons) of left over from the extraction. Tasted very nice. No Dreams! Now been trying Mugwort tea for 3 days. 3 tablespoons per hot cup of water. Much nicer than calea tea!!! Quite a few dreams but recall and vividness not great. With calea seemed dreams were repressed.

I can usually dream quite well and its always in colour. Recall is not so good .I can't visualise for peanuts while awake and there is no such thing as a hypnogogic state. One minute I'm up, next minute I'm either dead or dreaming. Thinking is verbal although I can get an 'outline' of the objects but never a photographic image. The calea really did nothing at all awake or asleep. ............................ Thanks for the Nicotine tip. I will keep that in mind for sure. A friend is taking St. John's wort and is fed up of the quantity and intensity of her dreams so that is another I will add to the list as I systematically go through them. I know that silene capensis is another one but my internet reading so far hinted that it could be another sus one. Calea wise I will make a tea with the 17g left overs and try that out.

I think the US has the problem with fakes. I'm very sure what we have here is Calea Ternifolia Kunth. because it is the only calea species with white flowers. Calea Ternifolia Kunth. should be the same as Calea Zacatechichi Schltdl. However I have never read that zac. has white flowers. In fact two books say it has yellow or orange flowers. This is one with orange flowers http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/golden_guide/g151-160.shtml Its all very confusing for me.

I need help finding a plant, cutting or even seeds of Calea Urticifolia It is strikingly similar to C. zacatechichi but has yellow flowers. I have googled a fair bit but ran into dead ends. How does someone find a plant/seed supplier in the world of rare plants????

Thanks mate, I'll try them out.

Chaps, I'm after 20-50g of good quality Calea Zacatechichi. Preferably from a batch that has been tried and found to give the heart thumping sensation. Thanks.

Chaps, the clone that we can buy from SAB is it definitely active? I have been trying some (apparently from this SAB clone ) for a few days- teas, extracts and smoked as described on many internet pages and I haven't felt any relaxation nor had dreams. 1-4g tea, 0.5g smoked. From hours of reading I've come to believe that the one used for the those dream tests looks like the one here. Unfortunately I cant get Martinez's book described in Duke's Handbook of Medicinal Plants of Latin America pg 144, but I think it might possibly be this picture http://www.lycaeum.org/leda/docs/16295.shtml?ID=16295 What worries me is the yellow flowers. Any ideas please?

Thanks for your help everyone, its a relief to know that the SAB material seems to be the real deal. I find the smoke harsh as I don't smoke, what mass of leaves do you guys use when you make a tea or ethanol extract for an effective dosage?

Help, every time I click on my profile I get :[#10245] You are not permitted to view member profiles. Also all my 16 posts don't exist. Just after posting this, now clicking on my pic seems to work....? Cheers

I've been on here for 9 years and somehow my 16 previous posts are non existent. What happened to them Torsten?

Someone ought to try extracting and purifying other common salvia species such as splendens. Ok it may not be active smoked, but perhaps a large dose of the pure compound is. Can you do it mr salvinorin!

Yeah I grew my own but it tastes revolting, so I no longer use it. Its so revolting that I think it is unnatural for humans to drink it. It makes you want to throw up. Silly books say its because it detoxifies the body so quickly, but ipecac syrup does the same and purifies nothing! I'm now using recepies from Norman Walkers 'Raw vegetable Juices' Book. (they guy lived to well over 105 years) I found a new plastic juicer for a cheap price of 65 dollars. Good for juicing leafy stuff like spinach, and lettuce and wheatgrass.

Resolution For a detector to distinguish between ions differing by one unit eg NH3+ and CH4+ (m=16 and 17) the instruments resolution should be about 16. If we are looking at masses of 220 and 221, the resolution jumps to about 221. Analysers The original and most massive MS is the magnetic sector analyser. These are very good for high resolution analysis. For example C2H4+ and CH2N+ both have a mass of 28 but their exact mass is 28.0313 and 28.0187. Resolution required is 2200. Quadrupole Very compact, less expensive and more rugged, low scan times, by far the most common. In a magnetic sector analyser ions are dispersed simultaneously like a diffraction grating. In contraast the quadrupole is analagous to variable narrow band filter. At any set of operating conditions, only ions with a small m/z (mass to charge) ratio are transmitted, the others are blocked.So it can be thought of as a mass filter rather than an analyser. Most units can resolve ions differing by one unit upto over 3000 m/z ratio. Ion Trap The ion trap analyser is a device in which gaseous ions can be formed and confined by extrended periods.RF energy voltage is scanned and ions of specific m/z ratios destabilize and enter a detector. They are cheaper than quadrupole and can resolve one mass unit for mass ranges of 500-1000. They are apparently very good analyzers. With fourier transform, they are excellent instruments capable of a mass range of 12-2000 with a resolution of 50k-760k. What to use them for High res MS can give you exact MW down to a few decimal places. Scructural information from the fragmentation (must have a lot of experience to be effective, and it is impossible for complex molecules). Compound identification using a library. Quantitative analysis. This requires a standard of the same compound being tested, or one which is very similar. Select one or more m/z peaks and the area under them will be proportional to their concentration. So for DMT and MeO-DMT, a standard of DMT may be used for both, if an appropriate peak is chosen. If you need more information, call labs or universities and ask to speak to the mass spectrometrist. Im no expert and this is all I know. [This message has been edited by Alchemist (edited 23 July 2002).]

I do hope this has not been posted already, but a seach on the site came up negative. Check out http://thomas.munro.com/ for some possibly interesting info and links