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  1. dontcha hate it when you buy a saw for $30 (i had to get the more expensive one, it had a kinda switch blade :P ) and as you using it to cut off a burl for pipe building, the blade snaps in half before you finish. >:(

    fyi the trees i was cutting were dead trees ;)

    amazonian: the world just against you! That sauce bottle thing is just pure evil! Go pour bleach down the sink or something to get back at it!


  2. oh also beer. Snails looovvveee beer. They get pissed in it and die, or so goes thw myth. I have used the left over yeast from a finished wort before to great. In any cast, simply pour into a dish and put it near your plants for those shelly lil bastards to find and they should find it.... Failing that feed the dish 240vac.

    Sorry guys for being a lil silly, i just realy dont like snails

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  3. i'm surprised there isnt a product out there that can hold snail bait, protect it from weather, protect the garden bed from run off from the bait and attract them into the product (either by environmental atractants like moist dark areas or chemical attractants like pheramones or a food source) in my line of work we have rodent bait stations, which does all of the above and encourages the rodent to enter the bait station and eat the bait but providing a tight squeeze, dark place wich they feel secure inside of and low and behold, inside is some tasty delicious rat bait! Everyone has found snails and slugs at the base of pots before, perhaps there is something to that... Perhaps i'm over thinking it! Hahahaha


  4. i know my experiences are VERY limited, and mutant it sounds like you have a pretty good number of experiences under your belt so you should know what your talking about. What are some of your methods of ingestion? I know i only have two experiences, but the experiences wer so vastly different that i'm sure the method of extraction is important. Its gotta be. I know i upped the dose, but at no moment did the first experience ever have the slightest similarity to the second, except perhaps some dizzyness.

    So, have you mucked around with your extraction method? :D very interested on your reply :)


  5. i'v seen a copper tape at bunnings that your supposed to put around your garden bed to deter them. It said that it works by reacting with the acids in there slime and giving them a lil electric shock. Hey, if there are comercial products out there i would be surprised if it realy works. Perhaps a poop load of exposed copper wire around the sides of the pot may be a good idea.. That sould work along the same concept.

    Ya and then if that doesnt work you can connect it to the mains power outlet and fry anything that tries to crawl up there! Yes yes!!

    Kill kill kill...

    Burn burn burn...

    ...

    ...

    Sorry guys, got a lil carried away there :(

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  6. wow.. Thats awesome stuff there satyr. Thats how i felt, the 5g of amanita felt finda like medium dose of psilocybin mushies but more euphoria and sence of well being. To real confusion or anything. No drunken feeling. Thanks alot. I may need to give that a try; measuring a 5g dose and mixing it with maybe 1L of liquid. Maybe juice or even soft drink, anything with a strong enough flavour to mask the taste of mushrooms. Or maybe a heap of soup? Were the flavour may be a good thing? I'm all down for keeping my psychadelic journies as easy, simple, bearable and enjoyable as possible :D


  7. mutant: thats the strange part, it was the opposite. When i had the tg milk extract it was kinda slightly compareable to normal shrooms in the sence that it gave strong euphoria and and mild visuals. This compared to the 7.5g of dry eaten material, i felt drunk. There is no ther way to explain it but drunk. No visuals, not particularly euphoric, just felt like i drank half a bottle of vodka in the space of about 2 hours. (as in, the onset and peak was the same as if i had slowly drunk half a bottle, maybe a lil more of vodka in the space of 2 hours) unlike the 5g milk extract, at the end of the experience, i felt voilent nausea that felt the same as if i had drunk WAY too much. I'v had salvia before, but mentally, 7.5g was purely a drunk feeling. With nausea at the tail end of it.

    As i said before, the difference between 7.5g and 5g were not simply stronger effects. They were completely different effects. One was psycodelic and fun, one was drunk. There was no loosing contact with my mind and body, just drunk at the high dose. Nothing more. It sucked lol i can imagine that those effects however, may come with the milk extract but at this stage i simply dont know. I'll get back to you in a few weeks on that one ;)

    edit: and as for beig hasty, yes i was most deffinitely. However my first experiences was so positive that i thought a lil more would be that, plus more! Not the case. I think working with this lower dose would be best for now. Untill i got a handle on what amanitas are all about.


  8. ya i'll get back to you on that one, this thread isnt over till i've finished all my experimenting with amanita ;) next will be another amanita milk omlete!


  9. update:

    guys, got some bad news, had a typical amanita experience like many others on friday :( this time, instead of doing a milk extract, i just mixed 7.5g of my powder into some pasta and ate it down. I felt fine for about 4 hours, however, the feeling was alot different and took much longer to kick in compared to a strait milk extract. Unlike berfore, were the predominant effects were mild visuals, and euphoria with almost instant onset, this time i felt like i was just drunk. Very similar to getting drunk. It was like i took a different drug with no similarities at all realy.

    No real nausia, or at least for the first 4 hours. After that i started getting these waves of nausia. They would build up then calm a lil then build up a lil stronger then settle. Next thing i know, i'm boffing and dry renching. My missus is worried that i took the wrong mushies and is freakin out. Me, i'm thinkin, well, i was kinda expecting some nausia the first time, its fairly common, oh well. Guess i just gotta ride it out. I wasnt worried. This went on for about 2 hours. All in all a bad experience however, i did learn that sprite is the nicest thing i'v ever thrown up :)

    Let me stress guys that this felt like a very different drug to the first time posted above. This was a horrible feeling. Drunk is not particularly fun to start with, but boffing like that was enough for me to say that method of preperation is a no go! There must be something to making a tea out of it, or perhaps the milk has something to do with it too. In anycase, i will never ingest amanita matter again, i willl try another milk extract again, but never eat actual matter as i believe it is the cause of my sicknes and different, unpleasant high.

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  10. most ppl, (other then shamanic/respectful types) want a drug you can grab off the shelf, ingest and have a great time. and lets face it, dont we all? e.g weed, shrooms, pills etc thats why cactus is less popular then shrooms. cactus you gotta chop up, cook for 10 mins with lemon juice, strain, boil again etc too much effort! then in the end your eatin this camel snot shit and then, maybe the potency of the cactus is shit? then what? you did all that and drank camel snot for nothing!

    amanetas are worse because ppl think there just like other shrooms and prepare them the same. WRONG! you need to dry them a special way, then have a huge amount (compared to psilocybes) then they taste different, and ppl are wierded out by diferent. my mate thought it was wierd drinking a monster energy drink coffee cause hes expecting energy drink flavour, but it's just coffee.

    datura is another clasic e.g, tell me if i'm wrong, but traditionally, datura and brug and that USUALLY were ADDED to a brew of what ever, not usually drunk by itself. yes it was drunk by itself, but most of the time it was added to a brew with other halucinagens. next thing ppl hear that brug can put you in a 2 day trip and there having brews of 10 flowers n shit. next thing there banning there cultivation.. sorry, got side tracked, but the point is, drugs that need no prep or dont taste bad are the ones that usually take off. ppl love smokin changa but hate the idea of purging from aya. each to there own, but i'd say thats why alot of these drugs stay underground, even with centuries of use.

    edit: when your talkin about drugs that may harm you, and you have... uneducated ppl out there who just wanna get high, they need something that there mind can understand thats not too complicated. e.g. get shrooms, eat them. get acid, hold under tounge till your high, put in pipe, smoke and hold till you run out of breath.


  11. perhaps it was you frank i saw pickin some in pakenham with a ute? :P i also think it's funny how ppl dont know about it. i asked ppl if they have seen it and they say, kinda, in fairy tail books :D imagine if everyone did find out about how to eat them, fkn today tonight will be all over that shit >:(:ana::BANGHEAD2:


  12. i guess its the whole different drugs effect ppl differently. 3g of dried subs are wkd fun, but i can still function fine. Anyway, 5g the way i had it was realy managable,


  13. as with any new drug, start with a low dose and slowly increase the dose each time you try it. They grow in such abundance that you can aford to play with the doseage. I'm not an expert on this mushroom but all the things i'v been reading say that drying with heat is important as it concerts all that nasty ibotenic acid into loverly muscimol :) toxic doseages seem to be at some amount over 15g from what i'v read. So if you slowly increase the dose, you should feel sick first as you aproach the toxic dose. Get some good scales and maybe each time you go for an amanita experience, increase it by 0.5g -1g. Also from what i've read potency varies alot so pick a reasonable amount then crush them all up to a powder, put them in a jar, and give them a good shake to mix the potent ones with the weaker ones so each time you dose, it should be consistant. Mutant mentioned that grinding them into a powder may be a lil overlill, and that breaking them up into lil peices should be enough then shake them up in a jar or somethng.

    Anyway, stay safe!


  14. l the low dose i had was great. It was not the type of high were i feel connected with nature, start thinking, wow is there more to life and all that other trippy awesome stuff. But the advantage of that is there was no paranoia, mainly just euphoria and when i looked at the concrete, there were light paterns engraved in them. At the dose i had, it was simply a bit of fun, there was nothing particularly deep about it and compared to all the other halucinagens i'v had, i could easily think strate. Then again acording to erowid, it was a sorta low dose; right on the border of light and common dose. If i was to compare this to other shrooms, i'd say 5g of amanita is a bout 3ish grams of shrooms, so fun, but nothing other worldly. Can i remind you guys this was my first time with this drug? So i realy cant elaborat based on past experiences because i havent got any :S

    I think the drying process is realy important. I had them drying there for at least a day, sometimes 2 or 3 if i was too busy to do anything with them. I also tried doing some teas and cooking them down to dryness, but they rotted and began to smell like cheese. The final product smelt like amonia and at that point i gave up on that lil venture. Lol


  15. first up my experience was amazing for the lowish dose i had and encouraged me to want to do higher at a later date, definitely. i'll start with my preperation, then go onto my experiences.

    PREPERATION

    Only the caps were harvested. because they are in such abundance, i also only take the most open caps that are droppin spores so that there will be more amanitas in the future. responsible picking guys ;) the way i pick them is such, i simply give the cap a few sharp taps and then the cap usually breaks off the stem quite easily. by doing this:

    * it knocks the spores from the gills,

    * all the spores that are trapped on the stem will go into the ground when the stem rots

    * the caps are supposed to be the strongest part of the shroom, specifically the flesh just under the red skin.

    * and they grow in such abundance that you can afford to only pick the caps, its not uncomon to come home with a feww kg's of mushies from a few hours picking.

    when picking, do not pick rotten caps. these will have soft edges, very brown edges etc. they will be smelly and taste yuky and its so simple to simply be a picky picker and not take crappy caps. they will vary in colour, and i believe this is due to bleaching from the sun. i've noticed that caps in bright sun seem they are always closer to yellow and sometimes even light pink when in the shade they are more red thru to orange. if you pick one of the sun bleached caps, scrape off a white wart of the cap, you will see it is red under that. it protected the cap from the sun in that spot, and so it is still red. i'm not sure what this does to potency but potency variations will be fixed later.. read on! pick as many as you can. the more the better! :devil:

    an electric hot plate was pre heated. i dont know the temp, but it was too hot to hold onto for a long time, but not too hot to touch for a few seconds. it was a lil over half way on my electric hot plate. baking paper was placed on the hot plate. the caps were placed on the baking paper, with the red side up. this was done because the strongest part of the cap is ment to be the skin just under the red flesh, so if the gills stick to the paper, its not big deal, but if the red flesh sticks to the paper, then you loose the strongest part. this process converts all the nasty shit to turn into loverly good stuff. it's well documented, so do a lil reasearch on it and check out the process, it's realy interesting. these should be left on the hot plate untill the entire cap is so dry and brittle that it should have no flex in it. it should break up easily in the fingers. then you know the nasties are all converted to goodies. this should take one day to dry like this for small caps and 2 days for larger ones. only dry one layer of fresh mushies at a time. however, if by the first day it is mostly dry but there are some soft spots, take them off, put down some fresh mushies and put the mostly dry mushies on top. it is crutial to dry them as dry as possible, not just to avoid nausea, but to make the next step possible. if you need to put them on for 3 days, then do it! realy, the longer the better, as long as the heat isnt turned up, causing them to burn. at this temp they wont burn, and it's safe to leave overnight un-supervised.

    once they are fully dry you can store them in my dry box. i posted how to build it in the Pharmacology & Chemistry forum. like most dried shrooms, these shrooms suck moisture out of the air like crazy and realy fast. you can dry them cracker dry and within a few hours they will be sofdt again so it is crutial to keep them dry. keeping baggies or my dry box should keep them super dry.

    once you got all your shrooms, dow would be a good time to weigh them if you want to see how much you have harvested. this is the important part. using a morta and pestle, crush and grind all the mushies into as fine a powder as possible. if the shrooms are not completely and utterly dried out, they will not grind into a fine powder. imagine trying to powderize rubber vs chalk. this is what its like if they are not fully dry. if a part of the shroom is not fully dry, it will not crush propperly and will require more drying. use only a morta and pesly, not a herb or coffee grinder. by using a morta and pestle, you will know that it is dried propperly. if it is all just wizzed up in a coffee grinder, you will never know and may get sick from incomplete drying. powderize the whole thing and put it into a jar. because the shrooms are so hydroscopic, remember to replace the lid each time so that it stays nice and dry between filling.

    keep a 30-50% air gap in the jar. shake the poop out of the jar. this will make a all the variations in potency balance out. shake it, roll it, stirr it, just get it all evenly mixed so each time you have some, it will be consistant and reliable in what you will expect. it's said that it varries in potency and alkaloid profile so it is nice to know what to expect.

    thats it! it looks like alot of work, but once you get into it, it's realy quite strait forward and easy. :)

    COOKING

    so how i ate the mushies. well, i heard a traditional methode of taking the mushies is to soak them in milk, and squeeze out the milk from the shrooms. to continue squeezing untill no more colour comes out. i had a much more palletable variation on this. i mesured out 5g, wich acording to erowid is between a common and light dose. i mixed this with a minimal amount of milk, enough to make a thin slurry. its stirred untill it stopped leaching colour then the whole thing is filtered thru a t-shirt. the shrooms are scraped up and repeated untill no more colour is leached into the milk. i was left about 80-100ml of milk. it was browny coloured and smelt odd, like a mix of mushrooms and malt. as in the stuff you put in milkshakes, malt. not a bad smell, just, well, odd and unexpected.

    this milk was poured into a bowl the size of a slice of bread. (this is important ;) ) about a teaspoon of melted butter is added to this along with:

    1 finely chopped clove of garlic

    diced ham

    salt and pepper (lots of salt and pepper :P)

    3 eggs.

    this was whisked untill it's all mixed nicely. i was quite worried about that odd taste, thus the garlic, salt and pepper, meat etc.

    this was put in the microwave for 1.5mins. the edges were cooked and the center was not. using the whisk, i scraped off the edges and mashed them with the egg mix them put back in the microwave for another 1.5 mins. this was repeated untill when the egg was mixed and mashed with the liquid egg, there was just enough liquid egg to hold all the bits of egg together. this was put in the microwave for another 1.5 mins. this is now fully cooked and solidified. the edges were scraped with a knife and the knife was pushed under the egg too so it would come out easily.

    next step is simply put a piece of bread over the top of the bowl, turn upside down and the egg will fall out. put another piece of bread ontop and then munch that sucker ;)

    EXPERIENCE

    the setting was simply chiilin with some realy cool mates of mine. were all smokin weed, however i held back from it a lil to try and feel what the amanitas realy feel like. one friend was on shrooms for the first time and lovin it, the and another had a tab an my missus was just tokin it that night. realy good vibes all rounds.

    so i started eating this sucker down. the onset was more or less imediate. it would take say, about 60secs or so to feel the effect of each bite and after 3 bits i was feeling it. it was the strangest feeling ever to feel each bite. like, the same as if you have a hit of weed, 60secs later you feel that sucker, just like that. the feeling was mainly euphoria to start with. i felt a amazing no nausia what so ever. munchin away. the last 3 bites were a lil hard for me tho. after eating all that omlet sandwich so quickly eating any more made me gag a lil. so i stopped eating it for 10 mins then ate the last lil bit. it wasnt nausia as such, just my body was just sayin, wow there lil buddy, slow down a bit. after i waited a lil i could eat it no problem. within a few mins i was seeing patturns in the concrete and pool table cloth, similar to the types i get from subs. the effects felt alot like a mixture of acid with subs, although i have never done them together. it was not particularly sedating or speedy, in that sence, i felt prety much normal. i enjoyed walking around, especially because the concrete i was walkin on felt slightly squishy. perhaps i was just noticing the soft squishyness of my shoes, who knows but it was fun lol it was dificult to explain things and think of new things to talk about, however this was nothing too overpowering at this dose and have had much more problems with this on shrooms and acid. talking itself was easy and i didnt 'THINK' like a tripper the same way i do from weed, acid, shrooms etc e'g i didnt start sentances with wow man, wouldnt be cool if.... lol

    the whole thing however, trailed off as fast as it came on. the onset was maybe 30-60 secs for each bite, the onset was abot 5-10 mins, the peak lasted about 2-3 hours and i felt sober (although a lil stoned) after another 3 hours,, the whole thing more or less all over red rover in about 6ish hours. hang over included a lil groggy mentally, like slow thinking and that but then that could've been from the weed and tiredness.

    i was expecting something quite different. well, i went in not expecting much, but was expecting it to be quite different to subs when in actual fact there quite similar, although i didnt "think" like a tripper, at least at those doses. i do wish i had more, or at least just a second omlet to have later in the night to give me a booster as it realy did wear off alot quicker then i wanted, but all and all, it was realy friggin enjoyable.

    there you go, now get out there and pick! hahaha

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  16. i'm down for some coleus seeds mutant ;D i think getting a plant or leaf matter into the country may be a lil tricky/ilegal but seeds should be fine. Cause you dont llive here in aus do you?

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