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Gday Chasing some B.caapi. I have some interesting things to trade in return. pm for details. CLOSED - SORTED

Gday I need some law related advice from Aussies who know how quarantine works. I should be posting this request over at the Nexus but its been down last few days. Ok I took a risk and ordered some mimosa hostilis root bark. I ordered it to my home address but under a different name, my thinking being I could claim Id never ordered it if things got dicey. So today I got a letter from Quarantine saying they had a package for me that contained an unidentified bark material and that it didnt satisfy quarantine regulations as there is a likelihood that it might introduce pests or disease. They give me two options: Either I can pay $40 to have it treated (gamma irradiation), after which they will post it to me. Or I can return to sender. It seems like they are not after me for importing MHRB, just that it needs to be treated... Im uncertain what to do, especially because I gave a false name for the delivery. Is there any chance this is a trap, if I send payment for the treatment am I in effect accepting ownership at which point they might hit me with a charge for 1. using a false name and 2. importing material containing a prohibited substance? Any advice is appreciated. Cheers

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Just in case it's useful to readers, and also for the sake of closure on this thread: Me 1 / Quarantine 0

So you're saying you don't like the Nexus? ...or you do?

...the Australian Way of Life that allows it's woman a much greater degree of equality than many islamic nations. (keeping in mind its pretty easy to argue that even in Australia's supposedly liberal society women dont really get opportunities equal to men yet.) I actually think there is a fundamental problem with the concept of Multiculturalism. Multiculturalism has served Australia well for a century, but it needs to adapt to the times. We have welcomed large populations of immigrants from Italy, Greece, SE Asia, China, India and Arabic nations and we are a richer society for their inclusion. But I mean, multiculturalism has worked in the past because these communities of people were happy to come here, set up their own businesses, raise families, live their lives and enjoy the peace so to speak. Where you get a problem is if you welcome someone into your society who 1. Thinks it's ok to oppress women and 2. dislikes your particular brand of society and is going to preach hate. How can you say, 'Welcome! Bring your culture and your beliefs and live among us!' if that person's belief is 'You are a degenerate society, Im going to teach my children to hate your society and women are inferior.' Such beliefs are fundamentally at odds with the principles of the liberal society that welcomed them in the first place... So I think there should be expectations of people coming to live here. 'You are welcome to come here and enjoy the relative freedoms of Australia, but dont expect to be allowed to oppress women or run your own schools that teach backwards middle ages doctrine. Your children will be educated in schools which will abide by a state regulated curriculum... Oh and dont expect to be allowed to extract DMT even though its much less harmful than say alcohol or cigarettes ...Oh and by the way we have some good political cartoonists here, and dont get all thingy if someone draws a funny picture of some make believe dead guy who is supposedly the pillar of the universe. Such a cartoon would be best interpreted as a 'joke' and u should treat it as such, rather than as a call to bloody Jihad on western society.' All I can say to that is, I dont believe in generational guilt. Australian society today has very different attitudes to those of the early settlers. I wouldn't call myself anti-islamic. I think all the major religions are equally ridiculous. If Islamic people want to subscribe to that particlar bed time story then thats their choice, although if they come to live here they should expect to be challenged with rigorous, science-based arguments like '...ere, if god is so great... then 'ow cum he put dregs in beer, ai???' etc. Footnote: Im not some flag waving nationalist, far from it. And I am certainly not a fan of small-minded, white Australian boganism (us against them mentality). Australia is an incredibly fucking restrictive place in lots of ways, but I think in this case our relatively liberal attitudes to equality should not be compromised.

Well... I think using a false name could probably still be useful coz if the plant material is somehow identified by Q or customs a person could still hide behind the argument "Thats not my name, I never ordered that, theres been a mistake...". Also, there would be nothing stopping an individual from paying for the treatment right now, regardless of the name it was ordered under. But its still not worth the risk. I should probably state at this point that this whole thread has been one big hypothetical scenario right? This actual scenario isnt happening to anyone that I know, rather I was just wondering out loud what the implications would be if a similar scenario did arise. Im sure everyone knows that already though. Cheers for all contributions, an informative discussion.

Torsten that scenario is exactly what I was most worried about. If somebody came to my door at this stage, I could say 'the name on the packagae isn't me, there has been a mistake.' and I think id be in the clear. But the moment I send payment I am accepting ownership of that package and therefore basically admitting to arranging importation... Anyway I have decided that its not worth the risk. Ill leave it and they can destroy it, although it shits me to the point of tears that there are so many restrictions our supposedly liberal society places on us!

Yeah you are both right... its a stupid risk to take. It would be too cheeky to pay for the treatment and have them send it to me... Dammit, thats $60 down the drain... if anyone knows how I can get MHRB in Aussie please feel free to pm me. And thanks very much for your advice dworx and Alice, u probably saved me a lot of trouble cause I was seriously considering paying for the treatment and just hoping it was all good

Hey Marcel thanks for the tip. I googled Leratiomyces ceres and I recognize that variety, I often see them in similar habitats to where I find shroomies. I double checked my haul and I am certain I dont have any Leratiomyces ceres in amongst my subs. I have a few old subs that are quite dark, but they definitely stain blue. Cheers

Yeah thats a good idea. I have scattered it about mixed up with some fresh woodchips and covered with pea straw. Hopefully a new bed will start.

Do you guys think these are subs? Unfortunately they are past their prime, they are a bit dried out and manky! They were growing in pine bark wood chips, sheltered under non-native bushes, location: inner northern suburbs of Melbourne. I didnt take any pics of where they were growing as I didnt have a camera with me, but I left plenty of small fruit, so when I go back I can take some pics then.

I dunno about using spores but if your goal is to encourage the establishment of new mushroom patches how about just transplanting small sections of mycelium collected from the field? Theres a section in the 'Psilocybin Mushroom Handbook' by L. G Nicholas and Kerry Ogame (you guys have probably already read this) which talks about this and also about growing new mycelium from pieces of stem which have been allowed to grow on cardboard first. If it was effective this seems like an easy way of establishing your own beds in convenient places?!

Thats definitely scale. And if you reckon you have ants crawling around on the tree then that suggests scale too. Each of those little oval shapes is an insect who is sucking on the sap of your plant and excreting a sugary solution which ants love! The ants are harvesting the sugary stuff. You treat scale by spraying it with 'white oil' which is basically olive oil or vegetable oil mixed with water (Click Here). You spray it all over the plant paying close attention to where the scale infestations are. The idea is that the oil clogs up the breathing openings of the insects and they suffocate. You can buy commercial versions of white oil but its basically the same shit - water and oil, maybe with a detergent to reduce surface tension of the whole emulsion. Its probably just as easy and cheaper to make it yourself. But I reckon the safest way to fix it would be pick all the scale off by hand. If you've only got a couple of plants it wldnt take too long. Then just keep picking em off until you dont get anymore.

Man they really do look healthy. Lush and green... awsome! Thats the stage Im up to at the moment. I just got a P. carthaginesis seedling. Its pale green, with curled leaves and it doesnt look the best. Hopefully with plenty of TLC it'll end up looking like those bushy viridis of yours. Any tips?

Why not vote Green? Bob Brown has a hell of a lot of integrity. He's prepared to stand up for whats important! Obviously the Greens wont get into power, but by achieving the highest ever Green vote in a federal election you can at least send the message to Big Howard and Little Howard that your not happy with either of them, and it might mean that in years to come we'll actually have more than two parties who are serious contenders to win. Then just put Labor as your second preference to get rid of that unprincipled little turd whose been leading our country for 12 years too long!

Ill be votong Green! Green! Green! Ok. The pulp mill in Tasmania cannot be allowed to go ahead. I have friends and fam living in the Tamar Valley who are actively campaigning to have it stopped. Ill be going down soon to take part in Direct Action protests to stop it being built. The Mill is Bad for the following reasons among others: 1. It will put Dioxin into the environment. Dioxin is the most toxic substance known to man. Dioxins are still causing birth defects in Vietnam, 40 years after it was sprayed all over that country in badly made batches of Agent Orange. It is toxic, toxic shit. Putting Dioxins into Bass Straight will contaminate marine fish stocks and will be sucked back up the Tamar Estuary by tidal movements, contaminating fish in the river as well. So fishermen who operate accross the north coast of Tassie have their livelihoods at risk. As far as Im concerned even a small amount of Dioxin in the environment is disastrous. Gunns has consistently claimed that the mill will adhere to 'Worlds Best Practice' in relation to Dioxin. This has recently been shown to be a lie (Click Here). The Director of Forestry Operations in Sweden, where they DO follow worlds best practice, said that the amount of Dioxin that Gunn's proposed mill would be allowed to produce would be greater than what the entire Swedish industry produces in a year, and they produce 7 times more Pulp than Gunns is proposing. She said that if any one Mill in Sweden put out that much Dioxin, theyd be alarmed and act immediately to stop it. 2. Gunns management are complete dog bastard scum! The CEO of Gunns said in an interview that he thought that clearing native vegetation was beneficial for Tasmania because it kept down the number of endangered species(Click Here). I shit you not, hes a f**kn meat head! In 2004 Gunns sprayed a cleared plantation coup which was adjacent to farming land with herbicide. This is standard practice for Gunns to kill off regrowth before replanting. Runoff from the coup washed onto adjacent farmland, contaminating waterways making it undrinkable for people or livestock. When the farmers complained and demanded compensation, Gunns sent them a couple of bottles of drinking water... literally two bottles (Click Here). Basically said "Get stuffed, we can do what we like and u cant touch us". This has happened again just recently (Click Here), Exacly the same situation but this time Gunns has offered the farmers thousands in bribes to "shut up" coz they dont want the bad publicity at the moment. I think that once the Pulp Mill is stopped, the campaign should continue to shut Gunns down completely. 3. The Tamar Vally is no place for a pulp mill. There are vineyards, farms, tourist ventures and marine agricultural business which rely on having a clean environment. A pulp mill in the region will put all of these at risk and for what??? So a few Rich C**ts can get richer by pulping Tasmanias natural forest assets! While all these local, family owned business which are currently operating successfully in the Tamar Valley will go out of business?! 4. The idea that Gunns is benefiting the Tasmanian economy by providing Jobs is a myth. Since Gunns has monopolised the Tasmanian Timber industry, it has forced out of business countless small, privately owned operators. Also, Gunns has laid off workers to make their whole operation more profitable. If you weigh this against the jobs that will be lost to Tasmania through lost tourism if the Mill is built and in the future when Tasmania is just one big plantation with none of its natural beauty left, then you can see that Gunns = Jobs = B*ll Sh*t. Heres an interesting point. You guys heard about how the Tassie Devil has been wiped out by half over the last few years by a mystery disease? Basically they get these huge ulcers on their face which eat away all the flesh and eventually kill them (Click Here). Well theres speculation that this illness is caused by the cocktail of toxic, carcinogenic herbicides that Gunns sprays all over Tasmania (Click Here). So if thats true, and the Tassie Devil goes extinct, Gunns will be to blame. Why should they allowed to get away with that? I say Gunns should be forced to shut down completely and pay compensation to the people of Australia for all the damage they've caused.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/we-n...1695905438.html I read a good article in The Age today entitled 'We need a scientific, statistical approach to drugs' Heres a quote from it

Its normal, latex colour varies naturally between individuals of P.somniferum . In the countries where they have advanced breeding programs for poppies (france, spain I think, and Australia - ie down in Tassie), they have a variety of poppy strains which have different alkaloid profiles. One strain might be their 'high morphine' yielding strain, another strain might yield higher amounts of codeine or thebaine or whatever. They are all still P.somniferum, its just that they have selected and bred to facilitate particular alkaloid profiles and I know that latex colour can differ significantly between these different strains... or cultivars I guess you'd call them.

Thanks man. I did touch em up a little bit in Photoshop... but just the colour ;) Thats cool that your finding them so late in the season. I visited my usual shrooming spots this week but with no success unfortunately. Hopefully some will come up if we have a little more rain? I like the close up in your first pic... you can see the blue veins on the stem!

Anti pulp mill Vid on youtube. I reckon the pulp mill in Tassie should not be allowed to go ahead.

I didnt think that Shroom season lasted until August man... not in Melbs anyway. I would have said that from when you get the first flush of shrooms coming on in Autumn around April, you've really only got a 5-6 weeks before they stop growing. I dunno tho... maybe I just dont know the good spots

Heres a couple of pics of some shroomies I found earlier this year. I found these guys in Melbourne's northern 'burbs. They were growing amongst pinebark in a residential garden. There were lots of overhanging plants and tufts of high-ish grass so there was a nice moist microclimate happening. I think from memory it was around mid June... although I might be wrong on that. Did anybody else think that it was a very late shroom season in Melbs this year? I used to say that Shroom season was around Easter but this year it was much later than that...

Great lists. Im writing down a few titles for my next Amazon order I agree this is a great book Ace. Lots of fantastic colour pics and useful info for identification Psilocybe Mushrooms of the World by Paul Stamets **** This book contains imagery and information about psilocybe mushrooms from all over the world. Marijuana Growers Handbook - Indoor/Greenhouse edition by Ed Rosenthal *** Lots of useful info for indoor propagation and methods for growing when you have limited space. Plenty of other books like it though. The Wayward Mind - An Intimate History of the Unconscious by Guy Claxton **** This book isnt about ethnobotany. It talks about the different stories human societies have come up with to explain what goes on inside our head (consciousness and the unconscious). It starts with ancient egypt and works its way through to current day neuroscience. Very readable. Would be of interest to anyone who likes to learn about the inner workings of the mind. Cheers