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VERY IMPORTANT: beware fake HBWR seeds. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5087370 The main difference between varieties is that the speciosa variety is used medicinally in ayurvedic medicine and the nervosa strain has high LSA alkaloid content. It makes little difference where the strains are grown, but most seed originating from India and Africa is of the speciosa variety and thus low in LSA. Do not use seeds from India, very low on LSA. LOW LSA seeds will not work, just like morning glory seeds will not work as they have only 25% lsa and 75% clavine alkaloids. Only authentic Authentic Argyreia Nervosa works as they are .04mg LSA per seed. I use only authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, I get 400 seeds per order, and have hid away literally thousands of the seeds, as the conversion of 40 seeds to LSI is exactly like 550mg of the heavenly mescaline. My all time favorite psychedelic. Zero side effects, zero vasoconstriction, zero sedation, zero nausea when my easy 3 step procedure is followed. Tartaric acid used in wine making and baking available worldwide (30mg on 1st stirring step) and 10mg on 2nd or last stirring step works perfectly, no difference from DL tartaric acid. I tripped my ass off on 40 seeds converted last sunday to LSI using plain tartaric acid I bought for $8 on line used in wine making, took only 55 minutes to prepare as illustrations show. Only two 10 minute stirring steps, and 35 minutes waiting during evaporation step. Most of time is spent waiting between the 3 simple steps. Felt identical to 550mg mescaline, out of this world neon colors all night, extreme euphoria, hours of way beyond 4k closed eye colored visions, infinite music enhancement, a pleasant stimulation all the way from 3pm when drank till midnight when I fell asleep. Intense healing and profound spiritual insights, profound shifting of colors and textures, powerful tracers, far better than LSD imho, no choppiness to the visuals but rather the visuals are flowing, magical open eye visuals, swimming in euphoria all night. Same exact power as 160ug LSD. Search USA Amazon for "LSD" book is often #1 best seller under LSD, or see here: LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA: Stahl, Matthew Ray: 9798218881634: Amazon.com: Books kindle version opens on a phone with downloaded kindle app: LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA - Kindle edition by Stahl, Matthew . Professional & Technical Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com. Full blow up pic of the seeds I used (last post #36): https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-2

Important updates: The author at bluelight and Shaman Australis forum (ethnobotany section) provided updates to his chapter 5 relaying the following: LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA: Stahl, Matthew Ray: 9798218881634: Amazon.com: Books 1) The 2 stirring steps illustrated in Chapter 5 can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes each. It shortens the overall procedure time nearly in half. 2) and that DL tartaric acid powder or just "plain TARTARIC acid powder used in wine making available worldwide" (not citric acid) should be the only acid powder used that the author used over 5 years ago during the Eleusis kykeon and Vedic SOMA highly successful experiments, so it is very helpful to read about the progression of theoretical simulation steps updated later. Citric acid does not work, only tartaric acid powder works (available worldwide), as described in book. Again, the author notes process only worked extremely well every time when using tartaric acid powder ONLY, not citric acid. He notes it does not have to be DL tartaric acid but can be just plain tartaric acid powder used in wine making, available worldwide. In the book is described how the LSA from 25 HBWR seeds LSA converted to LSI felt exactly like 100ug LSD, and how 40 HBWR seeds LSA converted to LSI felt exactly like 170ug LSD or 550mg mescaline. The experience is noted as being even better than LSD as LSI incorporates an extra carbon molecule which makes it much more like mescaline than LSD, even more euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing than LSD. Brian Muraresku's book "The Immorality Key" also relates directly to not only the author's book on LSI but also William Scott Shelley's book at amazon called "SOMA and the Indo-European Priesthood". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More details: Everclear is 95% ethanol, so there is ZERO nausea once the 30ml everclear is evaporated from the brownie dish, and the LSA extract scraped up, this is all done in 3 simple steps from seeds to LSI. I have never ever experienced any nausea or any side effects whatsoever in any of my 7 highly successful experiments. More info here, (the nausea causing seed mush is left behind at bottom of shot glass and thrown away, so there is zero nausea): please read entire thread: https://www.shaman-australis.com/fo...e-steps-a-more-euphoric-colorful-musical-lsd/ see post #1 on how nausea is 100% eliminated. Yes, tartaric acid should be the only acid used (not citric acid) as we found out recently it participates in hydrogen bonding and is an important catalyst for the reaction that takes place during the two 10 minute stirring steps. As a matter of fact, I updated the book and ALL forums to reflect this very important update. The only error in the book is that I assumed citric acid could take the place of tartaric acid, so I wrote that it could possibly substitute, but again citric acid does not work. I used DL tartaric acid for all 7 very successful experiments, my all time favorite psychedelic, 40 seeds converted to LSI just as bad ass and exactly like 550mg heavenly mescaline, equivalent to 170ug LSD. Plain tartaric acid (used in baking and wine making available worldwide) substitutes just fine for the DL tartaric acid I used in all my experiments in book and beyond, as I learned recently self experiment, absolutely no difference. Ask google in AI, response is: Plain tartaric acid used in baking and wine making (available worldwide) thankfully is the D-isomer dextrorotary form of tartaric acid (found in high amounts in grapes), it is dextrorotary (reflects light to the right) just like D-LSD (the only form of LSD that works), as the L-isomer reflects light to the left and is inactive. Chemical formula for tartaric acid is C4 H6 06, and according to AI it can indeed bond to the NH amide of LSA in acidic environments with stirring. Notice acetaldehyde has the formula of C2 H5 O which binds to the NH amide of LSA to form the psychedelic LSH or Lysergic Acid Hydroxyethylamide (see the molecular picture of LSH I posted in green color here): TARTARIC ACID has many more carbons and hydrogens and oxygen molecules than acetaldehyde, perhaps explaining the incredible potency of my Kykeon and Vedic SOMA 2oz brew, this raises many questions and is actively being investigated. Recall mescaline has many oxygen molecules, perhaps explaining why my 40 HBWR seed converted to 2oz kykeon and SOMA brew feels identical to me as 550mg of the Heavenly mescaline, much more euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing than LSD. Ask google in AI, response is: -->over 5 years ago during the theoretical experiments, I started out with just 5 seeds converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr and noticed it felt about like 20ug LSD, then I went up to 25 seeds which felt like (25 x .04mg per seed) = 100ug LSD, then I moved up to 30 seeds which felt exactly like (30 x .04mg LSA per seed ) = 120ug LSD, then I moved up to 40 seeds (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = 160ug LSD <-- As you can see, I started out low as cautionary approach with this new discovery over 5 years ago. Tartaric acid is found in very high amounts in grapes. I read once the kykeon when drunk left a purple stain on beard and gown of priest drinking it...so this could explain if grapes were used in kykeon to provide the high levels of tartaric acid mixed with the LSA from the non toxic claviceps paspali that infects paspalum grass that grows adjacent to Eleusis in the famous Rarian plain then bingo: tartaric acid could indeed be bonding to the NH amide of LSA, explaining the incredible psychedelic potency of my 2oz brew. LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA: Stahl, Matthew Ray: 9798218881634: Amazon.com: Books Search USA amazon for "LSD" book is often #1 selling book under LSD, on first row. Update 3.4.26: This past Sunday, I converted 40 HBWR seeds to LSI in record time (50 minutes) and used plain tartaric acid in place of the DL tartaric acid I have used the past 7 times, and it worked just the same...absolutely no different...I tripped strongly for 8 hours...felt identical to 550mg mescaline. Citric acid does not work, and I updated book, ebook and all forums to reflect this very important point. Since the plain tartaric acid found in high amounts in grapes is dextro rotary, thats all that matters, its available worldwide, used in wine making. This post above explains the important role tartaric acid plays in the process, participates in hydrogen bonding and a catalyst for the aldehyde condensation reaction. Never substitute any other acid in its place. Plain tartaric acid was actually known as d tartaric acid back in the day, old nomenclature I researched and found out. I tripped my ass off using plain tartaric acid I got for 8 dollars on-line...40 seeds converted to LSI sunday felt identical to 550mg mescaline, same exact potency as 160ug LSD. I tripped on Sunday as I had Monday off. Last edited: A moment ago

RC said: Thanks so much RC for your VERY valuable post on growing from cutting. Note: Morning glory seeds (Rivea) did not work, only HBWR seeds worked to simulate the kykeon and Vedic SOMA in the experiments in the book...my results with up to 150 morning glory seeds were extremely disappointing (even below threshold effects), I believe the mg seeds are mainly 75% clavine alkaloids with less than 25% LSA, the levels of LSA in mg seeds being probably around .001mg per seed vs HBWR seeds at .04mg per seed. The morning glory seeds resulted in zero entheogenic effects, no euphoria, no stimulation, no visuals, and even no physical symptoms like wildly dilated pupils. I included above post on MG seeds on post #1 in middle or so for others to see. Book and ebook distributions are good, around 1 book or ebook distributed per day on average, so it's helping to get the word out. I am donating a portion of proceeds to the few remaining forums left to help keep them operating. It might work at 600 morning glory seeds plus (600 seeds x .001mg LSA per morning glory seed = 0.6mg LSA converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr 2oz brew = around 1/2 hit of acid (60ug LSD equivalent: not very much), but have not tried. I would stick with HBWR seeds only. Happy Valentines day, romantic date nights are fun. Update: 2.14.26: There are 13 aldehydes in young barley grass Z21 growth stage highest levels, all of these aldehydes can condense with LSA to form LSI, LSV, LSCr and 10 other Lysergamide cousin compounds which in combination can hit an extreme multitude of brain receptor sites that will rock your world. Propionaldehyde is just one example of the 13. This Valentines night, Trippin on a 42 seeds weight is 3.5g, crushed weight = 3.5g, LSA extract residue scraped up from brownie dish = 189mg LSA extract residue (approximately .04mg per seed x 42 = 1.7mg LSA), converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr 2oz brew in record time, equivalent to 170ug LSD. 2oz brew is sitting in fridge, ready to drink at 3pm for an incredible Valentines date night. Zero side effects, zero anxiety. She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps. Book distribution is averaging one book per day distributed worldwide, so people are going to eventually find out. Update 2.15.26: The Valentines LSI trip last night was absolutely incredible, of all the trips of my life, this was at the very top, just as sacred, visual, euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing as any of my highest dose mescaline trips, I will always use this dose elixir brew, had the time of my life with wife, best valentines day ever. 42 seeds converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr (3 simple steps as shown with illustrations from chapter 5) just as bad ass as 550mg mescaline. See post #1 for link to paperback and kindle, or search USA amazon for "LSD", book shows up on 1st row.

Saguaro said: Yes! Micromegas said: Thanks for the kind words Micromegas. I would love to contribute to this valuable site to keep her running forever, which I plan to do once every 3 months. Search my user name to see that I contributed many years ago on subject Myristicin. Alchemica said: Nice research there Alchemica, yes I wrote the paper at reddit you dug up there ages ago with the pics of LSA and LSH. I write about my earlier discovery of LSH in the book, however LSI is WAY, WAY, WAY beyond LSH. LSI is like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD also discovered by Dr. Hoffman) combined with mescaline, just as powerful as LSD but no anxiety! I love, love, love her! I can feel this extra carbon donated from isovaleraldehyde and valeraldehyde are hitting all the extra adrenal receptors (A2A, A2B, A2C) and beyond that mescaline and DMT both hit with great strength, while LSD only hits one adrenal receptor (A2A). No other herb on the planet has this magnificent very high levels of all 3 aldehydes forming LSI, LSV, and LSCr for a triple psychedelic combo that feels exactly like a combo of ALD-52 and mescaline at the same time to me. LSI is forming from LSA + isovaleraldehyde with stirring at ph=4, but is also forming in the liver via an in-vivo condensation reaction, isovaleraldehyde is an aldehyde, these aldehydes are attracted to the "NH" amide of LSA like a magnet, and condense onto LSA forming LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldamide, where it reaches the brain from the liver. Under specific acidic conditions involving catalysts to speed up the reaction, chemists can force amides and aldehydes to form new condensation products. Aldehydes and the N-H group of amides such as our LSA are attracted to each other primarily through hydrogen bonding and dipole-dipole interactions. These intermolecular forces influence the physical properties and potential chemical reactions between the two types of molecules. In the 1992 paper titled "Tryptophan analogues form adducts by cooperative reaction with aldehydes and alcohols or with aldehydes alone: Possible role in ethanol toxicity," researchers James E. Austin and Heinz Fraenkel-Conrat demonstrated that while some tryptophan analogues require both an aldehyde and an alcohol to form stable adducts, others—specifically unsubstituted indole (our LSA)—can form adducts with aldehydes alone in vivo (in the liver) or with stirring in acidified water to form LSI, LSV and LSCr. pnas01092-0040.pdf Yes, since LSA from the HBWR seeds (makes up 83% of the seed alkaloids) is an indole ergoline, it easily forms adducts WITHOUT THE USE OF ALCOHOL with isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde, and crotonaldehyde to form LSI + LSV + LSCr. No alcohol is required when forming adducts with indole, just incubation or stirring in acidified water for 10 minutes (hence the use of the cheap magnetic stirrer from amazon). My brew is 60ml (2oz) and is non-alcoholic, no nastiness to the brew, just a slight herbal taste from the 3grams of Aojiru young barley grass powder (available worldwide from amazon or auction or stores) which supplies the 3 aldehydes in sky high amounts, which is what we need to form LSI + LSV + LSCr, for a triple psychedelic action when the Sacred Elixir is consumed. My discovery (isovaleraldehyde) and Dr. Nichol's discovery (3-aminopentane) are both extremely similar, see how Dr. Nichol's has a paper on line about his discovery called "LSD and it's Lysergamide Cousins" from the Heffter institute, link below. My discovery of isovaleraldehyde relates directly to Dr. Nichols discovery: 1) This aldehyde: isovaleraldehyde discovery that works has 5 carbon groups and 11 hydrogens just like 3-aminopentane which was found by Dr. Nichols to have activity very similar to LSD in the rat assays, as the rats reacted to it as if they had been given LSD. Anything beyond this, like cinnamaldehyde with a very high molecular weight has way too many carbons and hydrogens (almost double) and will result in weak effects, as it does not fit into the receptor. 2) The important thing to note from the Dr. Nichol's table, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16. Entry 16 is 3-aminopentane, and has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 52 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. 3) Isovaleraldehyde looks identical to the tail end of DMT and psilocin once it condenses onto the amide (NH) of LSA with the exact same number of carbons and hydrogens with the same chemical formula of CHO CH2 CH2 2(CH3). 4) BOTH have exact same molecular weights of 87 similar to diethylamine molecular weight of LSD at 73g/mol. See table 3, entry 16 for 3-aminopentane which is extremely similar to my discovery of the aldehyde: isovaleraldehyde and valeraldehyde in young barley grass: chap6.pdf I promise everyone, this LSI + LSV + LSCr is the most incredible psychedelic that I plan to respect once a month for the rest of my life, she is absolutely incredible: I have taken 40 seeds (equivalent to 160ug of LSD) x twice now, spaced 1 month apart, and she is my all time favorite psychedelic, that I will respect for the rest of my life: She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps. As there is zero or no anxiety with LSI + LSV, I plan on even taking her at 40 seed dose converted to LSI + LSV and walk down the street and trip all morning and early afternoon long at one of the world's largest waterparks, which we live down the street from. I know this will be absolutely incredible! As I used to take zero nausea bridgesii cactus tea at least 20 times at the waterpark. This LSI + LSV is just as incredible as mescaline, my other all time favorite psychedelic. -->I started out with just 5 seeds converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr and noticed it felt about like 20ug LSD, then I went up to 25 seeds which felt like (25 x .04mg per seed) = 100ug LSD, then I moved up to 30 seeds which felt exactly like (30 x .04mg LSA per seed ) = 120ug LSD, then I moved up to 40 seeds (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = 160ug LSD. Wachumacallit said: The authentic argyreia nervosa seeds can be smaller like the ones I use from Hawaii (a mix of black and brown color) or bigger and rounder and tan in color like the ones from India where they originate. I have tried both of them, and they both work exact same in the recipe. If using the bigger India round seeds, just count them out similar to the way I count them out in Chapter 5 of the book, with illustrated pictures. My publisher is Sacred Forest Botanicals, see their trademark copyright logo on 1st page of book when viewing sample of book on-line. Starward said: Thanks Starward for kind words. Search the USA Amazon for "LSD", the paperback and very inexpensive kindle (opens on a phone or pc with the free kindle app) are consistently in the #1 or #2 best selling book under "LSD" search. I highly recommend getting the kindle or paperback before it could possibly one day get banned in Australia like Starward mentioned. Au herbalistics has 5g (50 seed) and 10g (100 seed) for growing purposes, I have searched and located a few botanicals in Australia that offer the seeds for growing. All of the psychedelic discoveries in the book (5 of them) were given to me by an ancient dead Aztec Shaman who visited me for 20 minutes during a profound very high dose LSD trip around 20 years ago. I take no credit for these discoveries, as they all originated from the Shaman in the Spirit world, this is all recounted in Chapter 1 of the book "Shaman on the Wall". I have had 5 near death experiences in my life, and after each one of these profound very close encounters with death, a discovery he gave to me would rise to the front of my consciousness in detail in the form of a vision, all recounted in Chapter 1. The Shaman uses my chemical background to "expose" these discoveries to the rest of the world. We may only have 50 years left on this planet before earth's population takes a serious nosedive due to extreme climate disasters and events, there is way too much carbon in the atmosphere, and no way to remove it. My Interview with Dr. Mckenna (Terrence Mckenna's older brother) goes up around Valentines day Feb 14: Podcast McKenna Academy of Natural Philosophy | Archives New paper on LSI goes up at Graham Hancock's site in month: The Official Graham Hancock Website - Graham Hancock Official Website Attached scientific papers backing up my discovery of LSI, LSV and LSCr, several more papers backing up discovery in the book. Notice last paper from School of Health Sciences, University of South Australia. Just remember that cinnamaldehyde from the paper has too many carbons and hydrogens for it to work: 1) This aldehyde: isovaleraldehyde discovery that works has 5 carbon groups and 11 hydrogens just like 3-aminopentane which was found by Dr. Nichols to have activity very similar to LSD in the rat assays, as the rats reacted to it as if they had been given LSD. Anything beyond this, like cinnamaldehyde with a very high molecular weight has way too many carbons and hydrogens (almost double) and will result in weak effects, as it does not fit into the receptor. But pay close attention to reference 6: [6] Mehra, R. K., & Pandya, K. C. (1938). The condensation of aldehydes with amides - Part II. The condensation of cinnamaldehyde. Proc Natl Acad Sci India - Phys Sci, 7(6), 376-380. The 3 super simple steps from HBWR seeds to LSI + LSV + LSCr are illustrated with pictures and full trip reports in Chapter 5 of my book: LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA eBook : Stahl, Matthew : Amazon.com.au: Kindle Store In the USA, we are able to purchase 400 seeds very cheap (around the price of a few movie tickets) from various botanicals for growing. As mentioned in post #4, we absolutely love Australia and the people, the friendliest and most gorgeous people, beaches & nature in the world. My beautiful wife and I constantly watch Australian TV and movies on Netflix and 4k walking of Australia on you tube. I am a former beach and deep water waterpark lifeguard, so you know I love your beaches. pnas01092-0040.pdf 1-s2.0-S2212429222000074-main-2 (34).pdf chap6.pdf Paper+1+(2022.1.1)+The+Theoretical+Synthesis+and+in+silico+Modelling+of+Lysergic+Acid+Biscinnamylidene+Amide+from+the+Adduct+Formation+of+d-Lysergic (1).pdf

Wachumacallit said: Good question Wachumacallit. Authentic Argyreia Nervosa is the proper one, my book in chapter 5 (illustrated pictures) shows what they look like and how much for example 25 seeds weigh, what 30 seeds weigh, etc. They are black and brown mix in color. I have definitely seen them available in Australia from different botanicals when searching for Authentic argyreia nervosa. Some are even 100% Organic and Australian Grown argyreia nervosa herbalistics wink wink . 5g seeds is 50 seeds, 10g is 100 seeds. They are grown all over the world, but originate in India, just as my book explains in the chapter on SOMA. See post #1: The most amazing part of all of this is that AFTER I discovered LSI and LSV (same chemical formula, both forming with stirring in acidic water) as I mentioned to Dr. Mckenna towards the end of the broadcast, is that I cracked open the book "SOMA and the Indo-European Priesthood, Cereal Cultivation and the Origins of Religion" to provide additional references for my book, and discovered by accident that Shelley (also the author of the book "The Elixir" about the Eleusis kykeon) said at least 5 times in his book that SOMA (likely the Indian originating HBWR seeds) is mixed with barley. Dr. Mckenna also found this very fascinating, so much so that he is providing a link to Shelley's book attached to the Brainforest podcast on LSI going up next week on Feb 14 Valentines day: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/ (SHELLEY, 2018): Which is exactly what I am doing when I am mixing the LSA with barley (source of aldehydes) to form LSI + LSV + LSCr. Similar to the cover of my book, the women poured the psychedelic elixir for the men seated or reclining before the fire. (RATSCH, 2005) On page 65 of the “The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants”, Christian Ratsch said: The Secret herb or cereal grain: This Aojiru or 100% Japan domestic grown Young Barley Grass Powder comes available in individual 3 gram nitrogen sealed packets with a golden green color very high in the 3 aldehydes. Barley was one of the most respected cereal grains of the Rigveda. Barley (yara) was ground, cooked into meals, and even offered during rituals. The SOMA was said to be a golden green color, just like my Kykeon or SOMA brew when this 3 gram herb from the packet is mixed together with the LSA extract (extracted from the Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds in 2 super easy steps), see post #1 of this thread for a list of over the counter few materials needed. (BAKELS, 2003) The Soviet archeologist Viktor Sarianidi wrote that he had discovered vessels and mortars used to prepare SOMA in Zoroastrian temples in the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex. He said that the vessels have revealed residues and seed impressions left behind during the preparation of soma. The HBWR seed originates in India, but is now grown all over the world. I also used vessels, mortars and pestles in Chapter 5 to prepare a combo of LSI + LSV + LSCr from the extract of HBWR seeds combined with a single packet of AoJiru or 100% Japan domestic grown young barley grass cereal grain drunk in the highly successful experiments. SOMA is a Vedic Sanskrit word that literally means “distill, extract, sprinkle”, often connected in the context of rituals. Which is what I do in the book in 3 simple illustrated steps. Mycotopia thread: download 2022 paper on the sky high levels of the 3 important aldehydes in Aojiru young barley grass from post #21 here: https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-2 2022, see PAGE 5, ALDEHYDE TABLE: Isovaleraldehyde, Valeraldehyde & Crotonaldehyde (2-Butenal) levels eclipse the levels of the other 10 aldehydes in young barley, resulting in a triple action LSI, LSV and LSCr experience when simulating the Sacred Eleusis Kykeon & Vedic SOMA 2oz (60ml) brew or Elixir. I would suggest reading the 5 star book review from "Elizabeth" to understand how the discovery works as it is related to a Lysergamide discovery by Dr. Nichols (LSD scientist Purdue University): LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA eBook : Stahl, Matthew : Amazon.com.au: Kindle Store

Thanks for the kind words saguaro and Starward, pleasure to meet you both. When I was at the nook.org we would regularly correspond with our friends here at Corroboree and cross post the excellent cactus growing advice given here to the nook's growing subforum. I was known as a professional chemist at the nook, which is still my current occupation. I have grown bridgesii on my patio for many years. My book has a chapter on how to make Zero Nausea bridgesii cactus tea, took it at waterpark many times, some of the best times of my life (former 3 summer deep water lifeguard at same park). Below is a link to the Australian kindle (opens on a phone, download the free kindle app to view) version of book in color. Even opens on a pc. Has illustrations in Chapter 5 of the few simple steps from seeds to LSI. LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA eBook : Stahl, Matthew : Amazon.com.au: Kindle Store My wife and I constantly watch Australian movies and TV on netflix, and watch the 4k you tube videos of walking in Australia. You have such gorgeous people, beaches and nature. We would love to live there. I know psychedelic guru Julian Palmer from Australia: About Me - Julian Palmer He likes house music like me from his bio.

Allylbenzene is correct, it's the crushed seed shell fragments that cause nausea, follow the instructions in my book in Chapter 5, illustrated with pictures...we are leaving behind the nausea causing seed fragments from the HBWR seeds at the bottom of the shot glass, these dust like fragments STICK to the bottom of the shot glass and get throw away, 100% eliminating nausea and any side effects, as the 1oz everclear (95% grain alcohol spirit) contain the active alkaloids which we pour off into the brownie dish and evaporate the everclear (or other high proof alcohol you want to use) leaving behind the pure LSA extract which we then scrape up with two razor blades, add this pure LSA extract to 2oz water, pour in your 3g of AOJIRU young barley grass powder from the individual nitrogen sealed packet (come 46 to a box) and stir for 10 minutes using a magnetic stirrer (cheap from amazon) and consume for a profound psychedelic experience even better than LSD imho, like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD also discovered by Dr. Hoffman) and mescaline combined, my absolute favorite psychedelic. I promise you even with 40 seed extract converted to LSI + LSV (equivalent to 160ug LSD) there are ZERO side effects, no nausea, cramping or vasoconstriction at all, complete infinite euphoric psychedelic bliss for the entire night: 8 strong hours with 10 hour duration. I hear your concern flame_assay, you can do as Allylbenzene states above, or do what I did in the very beginning: -->I started out with just 5 seeds and noticed it felt about like 20ug LSD, then I went up to 25 seeds which felt like (25 x .04mg per seed) = 100ug LSD, then I moved up to 30 seeds which felt exactly like (30 x .04mg LSA per seed ) = 120ug LSD, then I moved up to 40 seeds (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = 160ug LSD. This may help you to feel more comfortable, see here how Kash (very well respected, author of the LSA extract TEK) used up to 40 seeds: Kash said in the thread “Kash’s advanced LSA extraction” back in 2012: Kash's Advanced LSA Extraction - LSD, LSA, LSH - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus Kash is correct, in that if the LSA is not mixed with 3grams of the Aojiru 100% Japan domestic grown young barley grass powder, the experience is just like your typical LSA experience: uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals. LSI and LSV are stimulating and VERY POTENT psychedelics on the other hand. Don't use peppermint oil as it contains 100 times less isovaleraldehyde as barley, always use AOJIRU barley, it comes in 3grams nitrogen sealed packs. Just snip open the pack and pour it into your 2oz (60ml water) with the LSA extract, spin for 10 minutes, and consume. Keep in mind, we are extracting PURE LSA from the HBWR seeds, then converting it to LSI + LSV (main alkaloids) in record time in 3 super simple steps. There is ZERO or no side effects, as we are leaving the nausea causing seed pulp behind at the bottom of the shot glass, which gets thrown away. For decades, people have been consuming the whole seeds crushed, which is the wrong way, as the seed pulp is what is nauseating and has side effects galore, the pure LSA has none of this at all, just like Kash notes above. Start off with just 5 seeds if you want, just as I did....I was cautious just like you in the beginning. I have taken 40 seeds (equivalent to 160ug of LSD) x twice now, spaced 1 month apart, and she is my all time favorite psychedelic, that I will respect for the rest of my life: She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps. As there is zero or no anxiety with LSI + LSV, I plan on even taking her at 40 seed dose converted to LSI + LSV and walk down the street and trip all morning and early afternoon long at one of the world's largest waterparks, which we live down the street from. I know this will be absolutely incredible! As I used to take zero nausea bridgesii cactus tea at least 20 times at the waterpark. This LSI + LSV is just as incredible as mescaline, my other all time favorite psychedelic. From 2.1.2026: Read the last few sample pages from ebook to learn of the dozen bad ass psychedelic effects from LSI + LSV: Amazon.com --> Remember, even though LSI + LSV is stimulating just like LSD, it's way easier to fall asleep on than after LSD, I can take LSI + LSV 2oz brew at 3pm, and be able to fall asleep at midnight, whereas with LSD, I would still be up till 3 or 4am in the morning, a huge benefit to this very powerful no anxiety LSI + LSV Sacred ancient Elixir <-- Search amazon for "LSD", the book has been in the #1 spot for weeks now, with over 60 copies sold in 1 month, which is good as I will be able to make sizeable donations here to hip forums every 3 months to help support its operation. Don't forget my interview with Dr. Mckenna goes up in just a few days: Podcast McKenna Academy of Natural Philosophy | Archives perpetualdawn said: 1-s2.0-S2212429222000074-main-2.pdf 3.29MB 41 downloads Assessing the product quality and biological activities of barley Hordeum vulgare L grasses at different harvest times, 2022, see PAGE 5, ALDEHYDE TABLE: Isovaleraldehyde, Valeraldehyde & Crotonaldehyde levels eclipse the levels of the other 10 aldehydes in young barley, resulting in a triple action LSI, LSV and LSCr experience when simulating the Eleusis Kykeon. Aldehydes strongest at Z21 young growth stage: Propionaldehyde = 2.18 Isobutyraldehyde = 1.41 Butyraldehyde = 0.69 2-methylbutyraldehyde = 2.28 → Isovaleraldehyde or Butanal = 7.52 (converts LSA to LSI) Hexanal = 3.73 Trans-2-hexenal = 1.60 Trans-2,4-heptadienal = 1.17 Benzaldehyde = 1.12 2,6,6-trimethyl-1-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde .3 → Valeraldehyde = 13.40 (converts LSA to LSV) → Crotonaldehyde or 2-Butenal = 7.63 (converts LSA to LSCr) 2-hexenal = 1.39 The levels of isovaleraldehyde in AOJIRU young barley grass powder is x100 (one hundred times) the levels found in peppermint, which is what we need (these super strong levels of these 3 aldehydes to form LSI + LSV + LSCr) for a profound triple psychedelic action when the 2oz Sacred Psychedelic Elixir is consumed. Last edited: Yesterday at 7:54 AM

knarkkoven said: 1. No idea, been trying to find this info, but it is nowhere to be found. Until someone does an actual steam distillation on it, unsure what the yield is. 2. when effects subsided after experiment #1, waited about 30 minutes or so, then proceeded with experiment #2. I'm hoping transdermal will allow for a "sustained release" of the safrole into the bloodstream over a longer period of time, but won't know if it works till those experiments are done. There is safrole oil apparent in the soaking everclear mixture, so this is bound to be more effective, esp since safrole is soluble in ethanol and not in water. Experiment #3 oral 20grams root bark tea, 30 minutes of mild effects experienced once more w/20 rep squat and 15 grams BCAA consumed. The results of the oral experiments unfortunately as mentioned before just don't last long enough, and it's still a far cry from mescaline effects which are much stronger and longer lasting. But I must say, the smell of the fragrant tea is second to none, and it's amazingly fragrant, the smell is awesome. Be careful with the sassafras tea, I had three cups that day and later that night I was seeing faint closed eye visual stuff before I fell asleep some 8 hours later (very very vague, however) and I was occasionaly burping the fragrance some 4 to 8 hours later. I think a transdermal experiment would eliminate the flavoured burps and it would also avoid first pass liver metabolism, so it's much easier on the liver as well. will let you know what i find in 1 to 2 weeks concerning the transdermal experiments.

Results of a couple simple very low dose "oral" sassafras tea experiments, transdermal ethanol soaked bark oil experiments to follow in 1 to 2 weeks. Experiment 1: 15 grams of fresh aromatic (smelled like liquorice very strongly) bark were scraped from a sassafras root bark piece with a knife (or a carrot peeler would work to) onto a plate then weighed, weight = 15 grams, this was put into a pyrex pot and boiled on high for 5 minutes with the lid of the pyrex inverted and ice put on top of the lid to act as a crude condenser so that any rising steam would condense on the lid and drop back into the tea. A 20 rep squat was performed for 3 minutes using just the 40 lb bar, went down parallel to the floor, this was done after consuming the root bark tea. Results: a definite mild amphetamine like high was experienced for 30 minutes, no mistaking it, definite psychoactive effects even from such a small qty of tea, the exercise did indeed trigger the effects to a higher level, no doubt. Experiment 2: 15 grams of fresh aromatic root bark peelings made into another tea, and this time 15 grams (3 teaspoons) of BCAA (branch chain amino acid) supplement was consumed with the tea and again, another 20 rep squat was performed with just the 40 lb bar. The purpose of consuming the 10 grams of BCAA protein suplement was to effectively nearly double the amount of ammonia produced by the muscles when working out, this time I experienced an even higher "high" then before, perhaps double in intensity, quite nice. In Experiment #1, I experienced the stimulating high for a period of approximately 30 minutes, with the 2nd experiment being about double in intensity, and it is slightly trippy feeling to it, very pleasant, floaty kinda imaging. Effects indeed reminiscent of MDX type compounds taken at a very small dose. Not bad with just a 5 minute tea with only 15 gram fresh root bark, and a 3 minute workout. This would be great with a jog outdoors as well. Note: Experiment #2 gave me about 45 minutes of strong effects, longer and stronger than experiment #1. Experiments next week with everclear soakings of the aromatic root bark (since safrole is soluble in ethanol) transdermally applied to thigh leg muscles. All of the rootbark was freshly dug and stored in a vacuum food saver package in freezer until experiments begun, then bag opened and fresh bark scraped off. Having taken mdma 120mg in dreams just the night before, I'm pretty impressed to still be able to experience the very pleasant stimulating effects I did this morning from the tea + 10g BCAA supplement + 20 rep squat. The 10 g BCAA supplement really does work to increase the effects nearly double in intensity in my approximation. Taking a BCAA supplment with the tea is the ONLY way to do these experiments, wow, the stimulation is nice. I don't even think much safrole comes out into the tea does it? I wish I had a paper to see just how much safrole goes into a boiling tea, cause I know safrole is soluble in ethanol to a great extent. My eyes are even a teeny tiny bit "buggly" after the 2nd experiment, I'm running around the place like crazy and am really pleasantly sped up in a relaxing sort of way very similar to what mdx compounds seem to produce. The tea was brown/slightly reddish in color. BCAA supplement used shown below. Note: The effects do not last long enough, 30 minutes (exp 1), 45 minutes (exp 2), but are enjoyable while they do. Transdermal experiments to follow.

The Pharmacology of Myristicin: http://mihd.net/0cqpmo9 I have easy access to fresh sassafras root as the trees grow like weeds in many locations, hence the easy access to sassafras, and the desire to perform some ethanol soaked oil experiments transdermally in dreams. Transdermal application will also avoid first-pass liver metabolism, so yes it's much easier on the liver. You just have to put in the work of digging them up. Is the same true in Australia? I do find it interesting that on page 32 of the Prague paper posted a page back at the bottom available for upload, that ninhydrin treatment gave four positive spots to nitrogen containing compounds in the urine of rats who were fed or injected with safrole (indicates also that gut flora did not make the metabolites). Prague Medical Report page 32: Dihydrosafrole shown in pic to the left below. Safrole shown to the right. So even though according to the paper these amphetamine metabolites are formed only transiently ie only for 20 to 30 minutes, then isn't it possible to keep it up by a continual influx of transdermal application? no idea. The rats reportedly got "high" or became very excited for 30 minutes after given safrole or myristicin oil by intraperitoneal or oral administration but then it wore off.

Good to hear from you Torsten. The duration of the effect that has been reported is the only thing that bothers me too. This is from that gingerbread paper further into it, but I don't know if it has anything at all to do with duration: The key word I pick up from the paper is "transient", but still it makes no sense that the "good effects" would be only transient. I'll go ahead and attach the paper whether it matters or not. Is the implicit suggestion of the authors correct?When bodybuilders used the 85% ethanol and 15% isopropyl transdermal with testosterone base that was sprayed onto the skin, (this was a concotion known as "androsol") a steady state level of penetration of the testosterone was reached quickly within 1/2 to 1 hour and then steady continuous penetration of it through the skin barrier into the subcutaneous bloodstream beneath was possible for many hours (around 6 hr before it had to be reapplied again), so I'm wondering if it is somehow possible for safrole to achieve a similar conversion rate for many hours since we know that it should be possible to get a steady penetration rate with safrole as well, as the study I linked to earlier showed a 40% penetration of safrole through skin with just a primitive transdermal formula consisting of only 6% propylene glycol mixed with the safrole was applied to skin....who know? maybe or maybe not. It would be nice if the effects would last longer than 20 to 30 minutes. I'll try and get down experientially to the bottom of this and let you know what I find from the experiments. The nice thing about safrole as well is that the molecular weight is very small, much smaller than even testosterone base, so it has no problem penetrating the skin--the study found 15% penetration of safrole through the skin barrier all by itself when applied, but then it jumped to 40% penetration when mixed with only a small amount of propylene glycol. But the "duration" is the main thing that I'm curious about as well. Still, the following experiences are interesting as they show a longer duration of experience perhaps possible: Experience of one of the four subjects who had a "definite" prolonged reaction to oral myristicin 400mg: (unable to post entire paper as it takes up more than required upload memory due to photo copy) "The Pharmacology of Myristicin, A Contribution to the Psychopharmacology of Nutmeg" reference: Experience of one of the other subjects who took 400mg myristicin: the_Potential_Role_of_Mood_Elevating_Amphetamine_like_Compounds_Formed_in_vivo_and_in_furno.pdf the_Potential_Role_of_Mood_Elevating_Amphetamine_like_Compounds_Formed_in_vivo_and_in_furno.pdf the_Potential_Role_of_Mood_Elevating_Amphetamine_like_Compounds_Formed_in_vivo_and_in_furno.pdf the_Potential_Role_of_Mood_Elevating_Amphetamine_like_Compounds_Formed_in_vivo_and_in_furno.pdf

Thanks knarkkorven. Good luck with your setup as well in the future. Torsten random comments "Rubbing the oil on the leg muscles seemed to be the most effective and efficient method. It reduced any physical discomfort, eliminated flavoured burps, and sped up absorption, the effects of nutmeg (pre 1995 only) and sassafras oil are almost identical to MDA, but only last for about 30 minutes after strenuous muscle excercise. It is now clear that we only need to look at safrole and myristicin. Given the lower potency of MMDA it may turn out to be mostly a matter of safrole. When the sassafras oil was still freely available it was a popular way of getting the effects--an idea I started after hearing about the bioamination of myristicin. An no, you won't find bioamination of safrole in the papers---you have to do it yourself." I'll report back with the results of my experiments in a couple weeks. Some more interesting news: If you ingest a BCAA (branch chained amino acid) supplement, approximately 77mg per kg of body weight (5 to 6 grams) before and/or after you exercise, you can effectively double the amount of ammonia that is produced by the muscles (as well as reduce the breakdown of muscle tissue so it grows larger), so if the amination process (also) takes place in or near muscle tissue (as Torsten suspects) then you "could perhaps" effectively double the conversion rate of safrole to MDA via the biogenic oxidation/amination process. Also I believe that using an effective transdermal prep will keep the conversion process at a relatively stable level, so you may actually get several hours of activity instead of just 30 minutes, as there is a constant turnover taking place for approximately 4 hours or more from the use of the constant rate of transdermal absorption once steady state is reached, but there is no way to know for sure until the experiments are done with the everclear extracts of the sassafras roots applied transdermally, as safrole is soluble in alcohol. My transdermal prep consists of 85% everclear and 15% isopropyl myristate. 20 grams of aromatic fresh root bark chips have been soaking in the 100% everclear (95% ethanol, 5% water) for a couple days, then 15% isopropyl myristate is added and the mixture mixed and applied to thigh muscles with vigorous muscle activity of the leg muscles to take place. Branched-chain amino acids augment ammonia metabolism. Contribution of BCAA in ammonia production: net ammonia production after 1 leg muscle exercised: 1,112 mumol/kg net ammonia production when taking BCAA supplement at 77mg/kg (and exercising same leg muscle) = 1,670 mumol/kg Something else to experiment with would be the ingestion of an arginine supplement to trigger nitric oxide production. Medline:

Ammonia is produced as a byproduct of muscle activity. Back in the day, several bodybuilders used to make transdermal preparations of testosterone base, they would mix the powdered testosterone base with everclear and spray the solution onto the skin, the transdermal preparation was very effective in transferring approximately 10 to 30% of the test through the skin and into the bloodstream, I even went and had a blood test done at a clinic after spraying such a preparation onto the skin and had my test level checked a few hours later and the blood draw for the lab test came back at an astounding 2200 ng/dl ! compared with my normal test level of 400 ng/dl (which I have had checked on 3 seperate occasions, and each time my normal test was in the low 400's). Other bodybuilders at that time reported similar results from transdermal applications. One on the forum reported around 3400 ng/dl. The tests are not cheap, and run around $80 to do. This only works with testosterone freebase, if an acetate, propionate, or cypionate are attached, then the testosterone molecule then becomes too large to pass the skin barrier into the subcutaneous blood flow beneath. I had only sprayed the solution on my arms. It definately jacked me up. I could feel the mental and physical effects of such a steep rise in a short time quite strongly. The absorption would then remain at a fairly consistent steady state over the next 8 hours or so, when you would then have to reapply the solution to keep it going. There are lots of papers on this, many at http://www.mindandmuscle.net Testosterone has a molecular weight of 288.4, so it has no problem crossing the skin barrier and making it into the blood stream, Dan Duchaine was the 1st person to experiment with this procedure back in the late 80's. Any molecule less than about 325, is small enough to cross over from what I remember from the article. The transdermal alcohol increases the permeability of the testosterone through the skin barrier by an extra 10 to 15% or more. I also have a bottle of isopropyl myristate, and when 15% of this added to a transdermal isopropyl or everclear solution, it will increase the permeability of small molecules through the skin by another approximately 5 to 7%. A small percentage of added propylene glycol would also increase absorption. But for now, I'll just stick with the everclear solution. For those that don't have access to everclear, 95 to 99% isopropyl works great for transdermal applications as well. When you put the solution onto the skin, the fumes are strong for a few minutes, but have a fan blowing and a window open and it's easier to handle, just don't stand near anything flammable or you're liable to go up in flames. I dug up a few pounds of fresh sassafras root (very aromatic! but now my back and arms are killing me) from the woods about 1/2 hour from here and put it in freezer in a sealed container, in a few days, I'll take it out of the freezer and wash it off and chop it up and add about 20 to 25 grams to a small jar solution of 95% alcohol (everclear) and let it mix for a couple days, when the time is up, I'll apply the everclear solution to the leg muscles, then do a 20 rep squat routine and some in-place running to see if I can get effects similar to what Torsten experienced from sassafras oil applied to the legs. It is also noted that vigorous muscle activity increases ammonia production in the muscles quite a bit, whether this has any effect on the oxidation and amination process to convert the oil to the corrresponding amphetamine equivalent for a short while is up in the air. Torsten mentions that he has had some very strong mda-like trips lasting 20 to 30 minutes when applying sassafras oil to the muscles back in the day then working out those muscles by running or dancing, so I'm gonna see if I can duplicate his effects. By the way, safrole has a molecular weight of only 162.1, so it should have no problem crossing the skin barrier and making it into the bloodstream, and what percentage? Possibly anywhere from 40% to 60% or more. Weight of myristicin = 192.2 I should hopefully experience 30 minutes of something akin to an MDA like trip, will see and report back in about 2 weeks. There is around 80% of safrole in the oil component of sassafras bark root and safrole is soluble in everclear. Torsten mentioned than an alcohol extract should be very effective for extracting the safrole. A high percentage of freebase molecules of small molecular size have an easy time passing the skin barrier and making it into the blood stream, I would imagine especially when using a transdermal alcohol preparation. Absorption of safrole through monkey and human skin, the paper states around 40% absorption! occured in human skin using a simple transdermal prep consisting of 6% oleth or propylene glycol, whereas without it, they got only 15%. Propylene glycol, isopropyl myristate can be added at 15% to 20% or so to an alcohol transdermal to further increase its effectiveness, they are available by the gallon for less than $20. http://books.google.com/books?id=KsEUmx-kL...7&ct=result 1 tablespoon = 15ml, crap!!! Torsten only used 1 to 3ml if I remember correctly. No plans here to ingest oil, transdermal application only, and if all goes well according to the study above, 40% and higher absorption will result with the use of just one 6% application of transdermal agent (propylene glycol), this easily goes up to 50 or 60% with more additions...ie everclear, isopropyl alcohol, isopropyl myristate, etc. Expect only 15% absorption if using just the oil by itself. Start low, work up from there. For the sake of science, why not try it at least once with the everclear extract of ground fresh rootbark having soaked. Of course if would be best to use just the boiling point fraction that boils over at 230 degrees C (as this is just the essential oils portion ie what gives the pleasant visual and stimulating effects according to Torsten) but that's not possible yet. Here is an article about log p and transdermals: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/node/71Torsten: "Rubbing the oil on the leg muscles seemed to be the most effective and efficient method. It reduced any physical discomfort, eliminated flavoured burps, and sped up absorption, the effects of nutmeg (pre 1997 only) and sassafras oil are almost identical to MDA, but only last for about 20 to 30 minutes after strenuous muscle excercise. It is now clear that we only need to look at safrole and myristicin. Given the lower potency of MMDA it may turn out to be mostly a matter of safrole. When the sassafras oil was still freely available it was a popular way of getting the effects--an idea I started after hearing about the bioamination of myristicin. An no, you won't find bioamination of safrole in the papers---you have to do it yourself."

I could not attach the very interesting 1961 paper by Truitt where 10 humans were given 400mg of myristicin and the effects they experienced due to it being 3.95 megabytes. Give me a few days and I'll transcode it into a notepad file for upload. Each of the subjects in the paper give a detailed description (one or more paragraphs) of the effects they felt after taking the myristicin. Some subjects were given an oil placebo pill, none of the subjects nor investigators knew who got the placebo or the myristicin in the beginning. Myristicin, along with any of the other volatile components (namely phenylpropanoids), are definitely the active agent. Experience of one of the subjects who had a definite reaction: Compare with MMDA effects wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMDA_(psychedelic) it is likely that MMDA has multiple mechanisms of action, and probably acts both as a 5HT2A agonist in a similar manner to hallucinogenic amphetamines such as DOM, and also as a serotonin releaser by reversing the direction of the serotonin reuptake transporter in a similar manner to MDMA.

Thanks Torsten for the article, very interesting. Yet more evidence (below) that myristicin is psychotropic? Shulgin 1967 "The Separation and Identification of the Components of the Aromatic Ether Fraction of Essential Oils by Gas-Liquic Chromatography," Journal of Chromatography 30: 54-61 & Truitt, Jr., E.B, et al 1961. "The Pharmacology of Myristicin, A contribution to the Psychopharmacology of Nutmeg," Journal of Neuropsych. 2(4): 205-210: [Note: Hallstrom and Thuvander (1997) cite the year of this paper as 1960; while we have not seen a copy of the paper, multiple other references--including one in another article by E.B. Truiott--give the year as 1961]. Perhaps had those 6 subjects done some strenuous muscle activity or running they may have experiencedmore pronounced effects...Page 22 of Vernal Equinox 2008 Entheogen Review "Myristica Fragrans, An Exploration of the Narcotic Spice": I'll try and get a copy of the paper if possible and post it in a few days. I've attached a hard to read 10 page paper on "Explorations with Myristica Fragrans" in the Spring 2008 edition of "The Entheogen Review" by Ibo Nagano, but again as Torsten states, the oil (even bad oil) is better than the ground up nutmeg. Concerning muscle activity: being a weight lifter, I know that strenuous muscle activity causes the release of Arachidonic acid (eicosa-5,8,11,14-enoic acid) among other things. Arachidonic acid is the body's core "anabolic fat" It is an omega-6 fatty acid that serves as the principle building block for the synthesis of dienolic prostaglandins among other things but I doubt that has anything to do with anything. Arachidonic Acid just be came available as a supplement a few years ago. Arachidonic acid begins to display its anabolic activity early during exercise. This nutrient is relased from your muscle fibers as they are damaged during intense training, triggering a localized inflammatory and anabolic response. This is part of the same biological process that causes you to be sore a day or two following a good workout. But again, I doubt this has anything to do with this. Theres mention of MMDA in Eisners book "e for estacy" (add Ammonia to Myristicin to get MMDA. - If only....) 'Its like E but more visuals' seems to summ it up. nice. Naranjo: Schultes and Hofmann. The Botany and Chemistry of Hallucinogens. p. 121: Again, as Torsten and friends have discovered, there appear to be additional means (such as muscle activity) of activating the metabolic pathways to much stronger effects albleit shorter lasting.Page 21 of Vernal Equinox 2008 Entheogen Review "Myristica Fragrans, An Exploration of the Narcotic Spice": Sangalli, B.C. and W. Chiang 2000. "Toxicology of Nutmeg Abuse," Clinical Toxicology 38(6):671-678. A 1998 analysis found East Indian oil to contain the most myristicin: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1675799 Ammonia production in muscle: The data also suggest that type I muscle fibers can be a major source of ammonia (NH3) in humans. http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/63/4/1457http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi/content/...ract/250/6/C834 Ammonia content of various foods (such as grape wine, etc.) http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/26/5/487.pdf Myristica_Fragrans.pdf Myristica_Fragrans.pdf Myristica_Fragrans.pdf Myristica_Fragrans.pdf