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Not sure YT. I've grown it a few times, and seen it lots of times, but the seeds I got are from the Coffs Harbour Botanic Gardens, they where cutting the biggest Tagetes lucida I've ever seen back to just above ground level.

I just picked a couple of hundred tagetes lucida seeds if anyone wants some. I'm on the lookout for Quararibea funebris now, thanks to apothecary and Conan trouman.

Just saw some good vids on youtube, type in growing mushrooms, look for RR, 15 vids in all.

Thanks Nabraxus, too easy, I'm new to the internet, but google seems good. Here is an extract for anyone interested, only problem is I still don't have a recipe, but then I never use them for cooking... The leaves are dried and ground into a powder then used as a tarragon substitute for flavouring soups, sauces etc[2, 27, 160, 183]. They have an anise-like flavour[238, K]. The leaves were an important flavouring of 'chocolatl', the foaming cocoa-based drink of the Aztecs[238]. The dried leaves and flowering tops are brewed into a pleasant anise-flavoured tea[183]. This is a very popular drink in Latin America[238]. The petals are used as a condiment[61]. Medicinal Uses Anaesthetic; Digestive; Diuretic; Febrifuge; Hallucinogenic; Hypotensive; Narcotic; Sedative. The leaves and whole plant are digestive, diuretic, febrifuge, hypotensive, narcotic, sedative and stimulant[160, 192, 200, 238]. Use of the plant depresses the central nervous system, whilst it is also reputedly anaesthetic and hallucinogenic[238]. It is used internally in the treatment of diarrhoea, nausea, indigestion, colic, hiccups, malaria and feverish illnesses[238]. Externally, it is used to treat scorpion bites and to remove ticks[238]. The leaves can be harvested and used as required, whilst the whole plant is harvested when in flower and dried for later use[238]. Other Uses Dye; Herbicide; Incense; Insecticide; Repellent. Secretions from the roots of growing plants have an insecticidal effect on the soil, effective against nematodes and to some extent against keeled slugs[200], they also have an effect against some persistent weeds such as couch grass[14]. These secretions are produced about 3 - 4 months after sowing[200]. The growing plant also has a repellent effect on various insect pests such as the asparagus beetle and bean weevils[14, 20]. A yellow dye is obtained from the flowers[169]. The dried plant is burnt as an incense and to repel insects[238] Pretty usefull plant, also widely used in peyote ceremonies. I think the book I read about it was by Emboden-one of the better ethnobotanicals I've read.

Thanks Nabraxas, great links on that site. Seems like they used vanilla, chilli, honey, flowers...I guess there were all sorts of local variations. Annato from the lipstick tree to make it red. I couldn't find any mention of Tagetes lucida, which funnily enough was the ingredient I was most curious about. An old vietnam vet friend of mine had a rare book on all sorts of ethnobotanicals, and I'm pretty sure I read about it in there. Only prob is I can't remember the name, and my mate is awol for now. Thanks t st tantra, is your version 1.6 yummy? Might try it soon.

Try health food shops, I've used it as a tea ingredient, allsorts of claims are made about its' curative powers. Tastes ok. Usually sold as brown slivers or shavings, about as long as a toothpick, bit wider. The shop in Lismore, is it Santos?, I can't remember , but the big health food shop, they used to sell it down the back in the big glass jars.

Thanks Tepa, off to the library tomorrow.

G'day, I found a big one growing in the Sydney Botanic Gardens back in the late 1980s. The herbarium has collection of pressings with map references, then follow your nose. Look for the little tags under the mulch. I can't tell you how chewing on a leaf made me feel, as I had earlier chewed one duboisia myoporoides leaf, and that really made life difficult for the next 8 hours. Please be respectful of the trees, I remember the khat tree there was totally stripped of all leaves within reach.

G'day,this is my first post, hope it works. Try horehound for your bittering agent. I brewed a horehound beer some years ago, and it was delicious. Only problem was one schooner glass laid me down flat. When I awoke in front of the dieing fire and tried to take myself to bed, I couldn't move so I just dozed off again. After that I just had small glasses of it when I felt a cold or cough coming on. Marrubium vulgare is the bot. name, pretty common, declared weed in some states. Supposedly a weak sedative-I reckon it's pretty strong. I've lost my recipe, but you could improvise, and I'm sure there are plenty of recipes out there, as it was once a popular beer. Also worth tring are Yarrow, Sage, Mugwort and Mexican Tarragon Beers. The small 4L glass demijohns are the go. I used to make a strong tea out of the herb I was using, and add this to the malt etc. Another great beer is coriander and lime pilsner. Happy Brewing