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Well quoted. But it seems to carry less weight than the reference to freedom of religion in the US Bill of rights. Obviouswly there is some difference since groups in the U.S. have won concessions with reguard to their sacraments (in some states at least, whereas nothing like that has happened here.
(According to my Politics lecturer at least. He is probably wrong. That will teach me for listening in class.)
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I agree. It could be better.
Pity nothing like that will ever happen here, since Australians have no constitutional right to freedom of religion.
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Yeah, I've read that too, only then it was on the end of a "Natural High FAQ" page on The Lycaeum. Still had the suposed Dept of Defense involvement, but the author claimed he had "found" the recipe whilst engaging in naughty hacker activities. Ooh, spooky conspiracy. What did our army need all that funky stuff for , I wonder?
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I am trying to id some of the thousands of acacias planted here at newcastle uni. I'm pretty bad at this sort of thing but there seem to be lots of trees that could be A.maidenii or A.longifolia. If I can id them properly I'll collect some seed and sent to the AFSR or anyone who wants it.
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Well, when it was legal, I gave a 2 cones of 5x salvia extract to a heavy pot smoker, and it blew his mind. Mind you, he was already under the influence of his habit.
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Maybe too much sun still. My witchdoctor grows his in a tent made from 70% shadecloth and clear plastic under a tree. So the sal. div never gets any direct sunlight. This works pretty well for him (Huge plants). Keep in mind that the smaller the greenhouse, the less resistant to extremes of temperature it is. My witchdoctor wouldn't worry too much, as he has had this happen before, and his plants are fine.
-Yeti
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Could the good stuff be extracted from wormwood using the honeytube?
The essential oil (with the thujone in it) could be collected without all that other nasty tasting stuff.
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1)Farm Laborer. (I stacked trays of kiwi fruit in a shed all day, so yes to the lifting and making pallets to put the trays on.)
2) 40 - 50 hrs/wk
3) Country
4) high unemployment area
5) Not really
6) "Anyone can use a nailgun."
7) $12.40
8) After tax
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Blah. https://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.shaman-australis.com/ubb/frown.gif&key=70d12add877ca586fd336fb5629c02d8e8e410c68bb2f9e5a70cfcf15d26ac5a
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Originally posted by Mesqualero:
If it's a mind altering substance other than alcohol then basically it's illegal.
Exactly the way it is. No room for pychodelic freedom in Little-Johnnny-Land. Goddamn conservative politicans and their useless conservative public servants.
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On a side note, an imaginary friend of mine told me that his imaginary dealer (very dodgy) was looking to get his hands on some sally dee, as people had been asking him if he sold it.
I was not impressed, at all. It shits me so many people would not give salvia the time of day before, but now it is illegal, imaginary dickheads want to make money out of misuseing it.
I am Jack's raging bile duct.
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DXM
in Ethnobotany
Hard to say. A small gnome is reported to have gotten severly bent off a 100 ml bottle of afformentioned medicine.
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After more searching on erowid, I found a number of reports, ranging from no effect, to something like a mild dose of mushrooms. No one who wrote in had eaten the apparently traditional 100 or so leaves. One guy claimed to have some succes smoking a small amount, and no-one could say what the active ingredient was.
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I read somewhere that coleus sp, includin blumei, had similar effects as Sal div. Does anyone know anything about this? I read it in on a page on erowid somewhere and have had trouble finding it again.
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So we were sold out by herbalists? Why would they care? Did they think it might affect their reputation or something? I know some herbalists think that everything is bad for you but that is ridiculous, espesially when it is so harmless compared to alcohol, tobacco etc.
BTW does anyone know about the legality of growing (not consuming) sal div, I can't seem to get a straigt answer anywhere
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Uh. I have been rtying to find info on the mysterious cat-thyme mentioned in one of the other forums here. I found all sorts of stuff that led me to this page
http://www.chemistry.unimelb.edu.au/resear...ARprojects.html
Go almost down to the bottom, Where it says "Synthesis of Bioactive Terpenes". They are trying to sythesise what? Shouldn't someone tell them that it is naughty? Or do they get excused from the normal rules?
This is also interesting, if anyone could be bothered reading it
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/AFSIC_pubs/qb93-02.htm
Also, fuck there are alot of diffent diterpenoids. I had enough trouble with tryptamine chemistry, but this gives me a headache. And everything seems to have them in them (does that make sense?). Cat-thyme,scoparia dulcis, Baccharis genistelloides (Clerodane derivatives, Diterpenoids)It is all too much.
One thing is just running into another. And I still have to write a conclusion for an essay on the philosophy of science (not that there is such a thing.) Blah.
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Cool, thanks Theo. All this investigation into salvia sp got me thinking about other interesting plants and their relatives. still I would be interested in seeing an analyis of some australian pychotrias.
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A favorite philosopher of mine said it best I think:
“there is only one principle that can be defended under all circumstances and in all stages of human development. It is the principle: anything goes” https://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=http://www.shaman-australis.com/ubb/tongue.gif&key=c5e9b2a103d6edbf83c57efe71150389ea2db1ceadc0de668daa9f29ac0435c7
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Or how about this?
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Do other Psychotria species contain tryptamines? Eg, Psychotria loniceroides, a native that grows frow Cape York as far south as Bega? Wouldn't it be fun if it did :-)
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I know this is slightly of the topic now, but I would like to thank assassin for giving me a whole stack of plants and other goodies he didn't want because he is moving.
Expect me to be giving away plants etc in the coming months as I propogate them. I will end up with too much stuff, and I want to give something away, to even up the balance because various people have given me alot.
- Yeti
[This message has been edited by Yeti101 (edited 08 June 2002).]
[This message has been edited by Yeti101 (edited 08 June 2002).]
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I look forward to being there. But surely others will be up for it also?
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Sounds good. But my darkened room also has my computer in it. So I guess I'll sit and attempt to chat my way through the experience. Never tried that before, usually just have a dark room.
Smokable Thujone
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My elf has done a butane extraction on Artemnisea aborocens x absithium (About 5g dried).
He then foolishly tried to dissolve the light oil into a shot of vodka. Not everything dissolved. A light green thick substance clung to the glas and would not budge.
The resulting mix is very strong, with a few drops on the tongue enough to produce profound relaxation.