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What mutants and lophs do you have left to sell? I'm also keen on interesting bridgesii cultivars. Facebook wasn't working for me.

Also got lots of baby trich seedlings also if your interested ... about a year old.

I'm up for some trades. I can always use pach stocks and I have loads of spare pereskiopsis. Also TBM, peru crests (grafted) and lophs (grafted), some crest reverts, and little bits of lots of other stuff. I'm in Sydney mostly and also on the central coast near Woy Woy every few weeks ... if we can save the shipping $$$ even better. I like the spiny stuff ... I grow it around the rare stuff to keep the bush turkeys away.

Mad Props freakaziod ... very entertaining ...

Greenechidna, That is a good point you are making about selling trichocereus as San Pedro. I agree with your point that this pretty much the same thing as saying that these cacti are active. However I think that selling dried cacti is far worse. My understanding is that in the USA dried trichocereus is considered a preparation and is illegal .. our own laws are based on international treaties we have signed along with the USA. So I think the laws in the USA set a precedent for Australia to do the same thing. Also I think its somewhat reasonable to list these cacti as San Pedro for symbolic reasons (although I would not do it myself). I think one reason for popularity of these cacti for people that are not interested in partaking in ethnogens but are still attracted to "San Pedro" is due to its spiritual significance in Central and South American indigenous cultures. Someone might want to own an authentic "spirit plant" due to their personal belief or ideology. Glaukus points out that cannabis is still illegal and suggests that this is not inline with statistics. I would go even further and say its also quite un-democratic as I feel its very likely at this point the majority of Australian's are in favour of decriminalising and medical use. There are many reasons working against scientific and statistical arguments for legalising cannabis for example the pharmaceutical industry lobby, international treaties, social conservatives who own and control the media monopolies in this country, non-governmental organisations that influence our politicians. Just to clarify my position on statistics ... my point is that statistics can be used to support just about any argument ... for this reason I think we should be mindful of activities that may generate statistics that would be useful to groups attempting to control the cultivation of Trichocereus and Lophophora. Just want to say a quick thanks to everyone who has posted in this thread so far. This is an important issue IMHO and warrants serious discussion.

Thanks for the support Glaukus. Further to your comment. My concern is not a news piece so much .... but that when an item gets reported on ebay that this becomes a statistic that is used as evidence for starting a ban. I am really glad that the seller stopped listing so I did not have to seriously consider using the "report item" feature. I'm sure that your aware that the government and the police are all about statistics ... its one of the big problems with this country ... Australia the police state brought to you by the statistical bureaucracy. This is one of the reasons I feel that spirit guides such as cacti need to be protected from greed ... they help us reverse the brain washing caused by our consumer culture.

Recently I've noticed dried San Pedro for sale from a local Australian source on Ebay Australia. The same seller was also listing dried Peyote. I'm not sure if its appropriate to post links to ebay so I will not post a link. Its possible to find these listings via advanced search in ebay. I think this is really bad and may result in the banning of trichocereus cultivation in parts of Australia. I sent the seller a message to this effect and suggested that I would "report item" if the sales continued. It seems to have done the trick for now. If this happens again and the seller can not be reasoned with via an ebay message ... do you think I should report this to ebay or would this do more damage overall in terms of altering the authorities and causing a ban? I collect Trichocereus and Button Cactus ... grow from them from seed and use them as grafting stocks ... I think that sale of these cacti that is targeted toward consumption is not in our interest as cactus lovers. I think any members of this forum who are purchasing dried San Pedro from Australian sellers ought to be ashamed of themselves and I think if you know anyone who is purchasing from these sources you should publicly shame them in this forum and anywhere else that is appropriate !!! If you by any chance know who the seller is then ask them to stop and if they will not then expose them in this forum.

Recently I've noticed dried San Pedro for sale from a local Australian source on Ebay Australia. The same seller was also listing dried Peyote. I'm not sure if its appropriate to post links to ebay so I will not post a link. Its possible to find these listings via advanced search in ebay. I think this is really bad and may result in the banning of trichocereus cultivation in parts of Australia. I sent the seller a message to this effect and suggested that I would "report item" if the sales continued. It seems to have done the trick for now. If this happens again and the seller can not be reasoned with via an ebay message ... do you think I should report this to ebay or would this do more damage overall in terms of altering the authorities and causing a ban? I collect Trichocereus and Button Cactus ... grow from them from seed and use them as grafting stocks ... I think that sale of these cacti that is targeted toward consumption is not in our interest as cactus lovers. I think any members of this forum who are purchasing dried San Pedro from Australian sellers ought to be ashamed of themselves and I think if you know anyone who is purchasing from these sources you should publicly shame them in this forum and anywhere else that is appropriate !!! If you by any chance know who the seller is then ask them to stop and if they will not then expose them in this forum.